. >> karen reaver is leading the way. karen: what happened in flint was criminal.isoning of a whole community. children are going to be impacted. one of the things they are looking at now is the numbers of deaths attributed to an ammonia, they were wondering what was going on there. i was talking to someone earlier and i was saying it is really easy to put a cost on infrastructure, and what we need that way. when you look at the human factor, we don't know what that is going to be. carol: is it a reminder our society values people differently? >> there for other cities in the state of michigan. it put cost over the public health and welfare of the people. carol: who should be gone after? karen: we've said that for every level of government. we want everyone from top to bottom to be accountable. carol: are all the pieces in place? karen: i hope people are paying attention to what happened in flint. this should never have happened. carol: where are we today? karen: we had three years in which to fix these pipes. we have until the end of next year. we are ahead of sch

karen reaver is leading the way. she does not mince words. hat happened in flint was criminal. when you have kids poisoned, and actually a whole community, we note children under six and pregnant mothers will be impacted for the rest of their lives. when we have people have died as a result of legionnaires, they are looking now at the high cases of miscarriages and stillbirths during that time. one of the things they are looking at now are some of the numbers of deaths attributed to pneumonia. they are wondering if that was really legionnaires and what was going on there. when you look at the mental health implication, i was talking to someone earlier and i was saying it is really easy to put a cost on infrastructure, but when we look at the human cost, we don't know what that will be. carol: is it a reminder our society values people differently? karen: yes. what happened in the city of flint, even though there were other cities in michigan taken over by emergency managers, they put cost over the public health and welfare of the people. the s