criminalized but then later seen as heroes this happened with dead ellsberg the sap that was karen silkwood that happened to a great many other patriotic whistleblowers in our history and what is happening now we mentioned a little earlier that the obama administration has been the most aggressive in prosecuting whistleblowers why are we seeing this this crackdown more so today.

criminalized but then later seen as heroes this happened with dan ellsberg this happened with karen silkwood and it happened to a great many other patriotic whistleblowers in our history and what is happening now we mentioned a little earlier that the obama administration has been the most aggressive and prosecuting whistleblowers why are we seeing this this crackdown more so today. well it's certainly a cruel betrayal of barack obama's campaign promises he did campaign as the whistleblower's best friend and instead he has launched more prosecutions under the espionage act of one nine hundred seventeen against whistleblowers than all previous presidents combined. what does he have to gain from this. i think very little i think our country has a great deal to gain by welcoming whistleblowers and especially the revelations in weiqi leaks you know the idea that we should know what our government is doing both at home and abroad that's not something that was cooked up by weiqi leaks last year it's a very old idea it's a very good idea and it's been a central part of the american political tradit

one year, a texan, karen silkwood. >> streep: let's not fight. >> safer: the next, danish in "out of bror has asked me for a divorce. he has found someone that he wants to marry. >> safer: she wore spandex for "mamma mia," a nun's habit for "doubt," and a beard, playing a rabbi in "angels in america." >> streep: it always really bothers me when people imagine that characters that don't look like you, or have the same accent as you do, are far from you. the great actress sybil thorndike said, "i think we all have the germ of every other person inside of us." and i think we do. >> baroness thatcher, how are you feeling? >> safer: margaret thatcher is 86 now. her daughter carol has written openly about her mother's slide into the darkness of dementia. the film tackles the issue head on. did you have any concerns about showing this once remarkably vital woman having lost it all? >> streep: well, that was the part that most intrigued me. first of all, i don't... i don't feel there's any shame in dementia, in people that suffer it. >> and you're not prime minister anymore. >> streep: to te