i did a panel with donna karen who you see there. carol smithwe talked about a lot of different fabulous issues pertaining to women starting with fitness, fashion, with our panel. but the symposium is amazing. i know you guys are just fascinated, so we had to run this story. >> we are. fashion week is nothing -- >> i made a joke with myself. you forced me to walk the runway. and i thought, are you kidding me after those models? i almost lunged at the ceo of saks, but then we got through it. >> so, you know, there's some great shots there. what famous fashion photographer? >> oh, it was funny, it's weird, i'm on stage and click, click, click of the cameras, and there's lewis. there's lewis, he showed up. >> in a dress? >> no, looking good. >> and ended up becoming a star of the show. >> i bet he was. >> inspiring envy among the women for his hair. >> funny, i said his name and he immediately ran his hand through his hair. >> isn't she great? >> yeah, she's an impeccable dresser, by the way. so she was perfect for the panel. but she's just a lot o