karen taylor robeson. she's an awesome lady. known her most of my life.e kicking tires and checking the engine because i want options and mike pence is one fantastic option for me to kick that tire and see what the motor's like in this guy. >> you were here today with karen taylor robeson, doug, with mike pence here. is this a battle, is this a battle for the soul of the republican party? >> whether it's the soul right now, but everybody's got to reassess. do we want to be a party that's looking into the past with some kind of grudge match all the time or do we want to start solving the problems of the biden administration that is just gone amuck with the country? to me, we've got a man who's got integrity. he's got moral values and clarity. and that's important to me and i think that's important to america. >> how long have you been serving in public office? >> over 17 years. >> are you going to win your election? >> we're going to kick it right to the end. we'll see what mr. trump has been able to do, but he's dropped a lot of bombs on our state and i g

>> well, the names on the ball let are karen taylor robeson and carey lake. robeson is the real conservative. she's the real deal. she started her career working for ronald reagan. she's prolaw, pro-gun, pro-life. she's a mother of four. i think she'll the best person to be a fresh new leader for the state of arizona. her opponent on the other hand bears no resemblance, her campaign or interpersonal relations with me, for 30 year. this is all an act. >> how does this play into the national conversation, particularly as i mentioned, the election in 2020. carey lake is backed by the former president in large part because she says the 20 election was stolen. >> well, carey lake's misleading voters with no evidence. she's been tagged by her opponents with the nickname fake lake, which seems to be sticking and actually doing some damage. karen taylor robeson started from zero, and now this is a margin of zero race. >> will the republican support lake if she wins the primary? >> the republican governors association is in the business of electing republican governor

>> reporter: the contest between former news anchor carry lake and karen taylor robeson has become aroxy war between trump and his former vice president mike pence. long time arizona gop strategist stan barns says voters will decide more than just the nominee. >> they're actually choosing the soul of the party. what is the party going to be? that's what they're choosing a mere few days from now. >> reporter: and even in this border state, voters we talked to say the issue they're most concerned about, inflation. bret? >> alisha cuna reporting from phoenix, thank you. great background. we're back with the panel now. catherine, this is the most expensive senate race in the country so far. how important is this for republicans as far as gaining back control of the senate? >> this is a key race. they only have a couple of opportunities, obviously. they see arizona as a state where they could gain a seat. the primary is testing now, as she just said, where their own party is going. it's testing this question of whether the focus should be on the 2020 result or on the future of the party w

karen taylor robeson is a republican candidate for governor, the top two and she joins us now.u tonight. the race has really tightened, how do you convince republican voters that you are the candidate that are poised to keep this governorship in republican hands? >> thank you for having me on tonight. the most recent polls have me leading and it is remarkable the amount of momentum we have in this campaign. i believe arizona voters are waking up to the steaks that are at hand in this election so we can keep the arizona governor's office in republican hands. they know i am best position to defeat katie hobbs in the election. >> laura: you have governor ducey came out and endorsed to you, he's very popular in the state of arizona. i know some conservatives don't think he's conservative enough, i get it but that was a big deal for you to get that endorsement. how did you convince him? or did you convince him, he just decided to pick you? >> he is joined a chorus of leading conservative voices from bill bennett, steve moore, newt gingrich yesterday endorsed me, governor mike huckab

karen taylor robeson is laying the foundation here to take on kerry lake and donald trump-style of republican. ultimately, though, it is up to republican voters here in the state of arizona, just a week and a half from now, on which of these two paths both very, very transparently presented to them they choose to go with. >> and vaughn, it's really going to be an interesting test coming up as to whether these hearings and the way mike pence performed under the most extreme pressure, whether that helps or hurts him, whether being praised by all of these committee members helps him going forward or hurts him in the republican primaries. as they clearly are going to being running against each other. vaughn hillyard, thanks. we'll be seeing you soon. >>> up next, pouring gasoline on the fire. how insiders say trump was inciting the mob in realtime, as they stormed the capitol. you're watching our special coverage of the january 6th committee hearings. stay with us, right here on msnbc. rage of the january 6th committee hearings stay with us, right here on msnbc. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell y

on the other side you have former vice president mike pence and his candidate karen taylor robeson, sheestablishment republicans who want to move forward from the 2020 election, she's endorsed by the outgoing term limited governor in arizona, doug ducey, who was attacked relentless by by former president trump for refusing to overturn the 2020 election results in this state. as this is unfolding in the state of arizona, it looks like pence and trump are set for a collision course in 2024 on the national stage. pence in recent weeks has really signaled strongly a potential run in 2024. and of course as we know, trump has continued to tease that run. so this would set up an epic showdown between the two of them who once served together in the white house and now haven't spoken in more than a year. >> fascinating stuff there, kristen holmes, appreciate it. >>> we've all gotten plenty of them, you know, those annoying, really annoying robocalls about car warranties. but the fcc might be disconnecting them for good. we'll explain, next. in just two. uhh... here, i'll take that! yay!!! ensure

former vice president mike pence is set to stump for republican candidate karen taylor robeson. >> but former president trump will hold a rally to support kari lake in what he describes as the entire trump ticket. kristen holmes is in pea your. give us the latest there. >> reporter: this is really not just about a split between trump and pence, but it's really about another one of these republican primaries in which there are six of the republican party. on one side you have the group that really wants to continue talking about the 2020 election, they promote donald trump's lies about the 2020 election's conspiracy theories. on the other side you have people who just want to move forward, get away from the 2020 election. the latter camp is where you find former vice president mike pence, as well as outgoing governor doug ducey, also a republican. you'll remember that he faced trump's ire for not overturning the results of the arizona election in 2020. so both pence and deucy will be behind me just in a few points and they are squarely behind robson. she is the established favorite. she

. >> i'm here because arizona and america need karen taylor robeson as the next governor of arizona.me in a gop primary for arizona governor that's become a test of the former president's election lies, versus republicans calling to move on from 2020. trump rallying with his endorsed candidate, carrie lake friday. a former local tv news anchor who built a campaign around conspiracy theories and denials that joe biden won the 2020 election. >> you've called joe biden an illegitimate president. what does that mean? >> he lost the election and he shouldn't be in the white house. we had a corrupt election. i'd actually like to ask everybody on this stage if they agree we had a corrupt election? >> i'm not going to play your stunt. >> re >> i also think this election should be about the future. i don't think we should think one more moment about 2020. >> reporter: including doug ducey whose once relationship with the form president has since soured. >> i know kari is going to be involved. what an improvement she's going to be over your current governor. he's a disaster. >> reporter: ducey

the former vp endorsing the republican karen taylor robeson for governor in arizona. she is running against the trump backed candidate, kerry lake the race one battle in a sort of proxy war. trump supporters against the republican establishment it's a war that could eventually lead to a faceoff between mr. trump and mr. pence themselves in the republican primary for president. kerry lake has promoted former president trump's false claims that the 2020 election was stolen the state's former gop governor ripped into lake yesterday, calling her an act and fake lake it's not the first time mr. pence has gone against a trump backed candidate he threw his support behind the georgia governor, brian kemp, back in may, kemp won his primary against former senator david perdue >> in wyoming, the republican congresswoman liz cheney is facing a very tough primary fight to keep her seat that is if you believe the newest polling according to the caspar star tribune poll conducted this months, cheney's trump-backed opponent, harriet hegman has a commanding lead, beating her by more t

on friday he campaigned in swing state arizona for gubernatorial candidate karen taylor robeson, a wealthyy and developer. about 9 90 miles north, carey lake, a former newscaster who supported obama and now says she's changed. >> the dueling appearances continue this week in washington no less. both men giving separate key speeches at two separate policy summits. for trump, this will be his first time back in washington since he left, january 2021, flying out for the very last time on air force one, landing here in florida. >> bret: phil keating reporting live from tampa, florida. thank you. it's time now for us under group, fox news white house correspondent jacqui heinrich, former republican speaker of the house, author of the book "defeating the government socialism," newt gingrich. a fox news political analyst juan williams, and katie pavlich, editor of townhall.com. speaker, your thoughts on this battle between the endorsements of the former president, former vice president? >> i think it's perfectly healthy. you have three big players now in the republican party. donald trump, who's

so you have mike pence endorsing karen taylor robeson saying -- >> okay. things, backing her opponent, a 2020 election denier. she's a big-time donald trump supporter. i want to bring in vaughn hillyard. this is an interesting race, one of those ones that people are looking at to see what is it going to tell us more on a national scale about donald trump and mike pence. and this week it's coming into focus with both candidates looking to have events this week. talk to us about what it's like on the ground, the expectation, et cetera. >> both of them. donald trump will be holding a rally for carry leak. and mike pence will take a border stop with robson. this is the situation where arizona republican voters will be tasked with choosing in a man-to-man battle here. we have seen the likes of wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan governor races, which have been very muddied with several different candidates in the mix here. of course, you have the georgia governor's and you have the georgia governor's race and mike pence showed up with brian kemp there and think,

on the other hand, you've got to hurt karen taylor robeson is a former real estate consultant. she's endorsed by the likes of former vice president mike pence. and swift current governor doug doocy. this is ultimately going to be for republican voters to decide which path they want to go down. there is folks can say, desantis, pence, name off -- other republicans in 2024 who they like to see their nominee. but ultimately, it comes down to voters. i think this is going to be a strong indication of where republican voters at least in the city of arizona still live because you've also got a secretary of state race with the trumpet candidate. you've got an international race with the trump backed candidate. there is a strong potential that trump's picks for each of these offices could run away in a complete sweep and it really sat down a strong foundation for donald trump to make the claim that republican voters at least here in arizona still want his folks at the forefront of this. >> real quick, vaughn, has mike pence weighed in on the senate primary for gop? because he wasn't ca

. >> crisscrossing the state friday in support of karen taylor robeson, a former member of the arizonaed god, guns, and gop about five minutes before she decided to run for governor. arizona cannot -- cannot -- allow a fraud in the governor's office. >> reporter: some voters tell cnn they're not ready to move on from the 2020 election or pence's role. >> he chickened out on the country is what i believe. >> reporter: while others hope to put it in the past. >> it impacted me in 2020. but we're in 2022, and we've got to look to the future. >> reporter: this is the second primary in which pence and trump have been at odds. the first time was in georgia, when brian kemp defeated trump endorsed david perdue. >> when you say yes to governor brian kemp tomorrow, you will send a deafening message all across america that the republican party is the party of the future. >> reporter: as pence and trump appear on a collision course in 2024. >> kristen holmes joins us live from prescott valley, arizona. kristen, early voting has begun there. how are the candidates looking who are actually on the b

former vice president pence campaigned for arizona gubernatorial candidate karen taylor robeson, a wealthyy and developer. meanwhile, former president trump campaigned for her opponent, kari lake, a former newscaster who supported obama at one point, but now she say says changed. and not to disappoint the crowd, trump teased 2024. >> and now we may have to do it again -- [cheers and applause] i mean, look at what has happened to our country in less than to two years -- in two years. our country is like a different, like a different place. it's so sad to see. but first we have to win a historic victory for the republican party this november. when we retake congress, among our highest priorities must be to end the nightmare. >> reporter: the first republican starts speaking on the stage behind me starting at about 11 in the morning, so not too far away. and tonight's big headline speech coming from the man you just watched and heard, former president donald j. trump. neil? neil: all right, phil, thank you very much for that. phil keating in florida following those fast moving developments. w

. >> mike pence is out for the opponent, which is karen taylor robeson.are going to look to see how dr. oz does and look to see how j.d. vance does to see at the end of 2022 how much power the president has. >> ainsley: herschel walker, too. >> steve: maybe the former president is a king maker then because he has been very successful in endorsing candidates who have gone on to win the primaries. let's see what happens in general. >> ainsley: they love his policy. they love trump's policies. they have been critical about other parts of his personality. but as far as his policies are concerned, the gas prices were better. our economy was doing better. and we'll have to see. gavin newsom went to the white house, you know, when our president was over in saudi arabia. >> steve: that was weird. >> ainsley: now is he taking out these ads in florida. ains. >> brian: and texas. >> ainsley: he would love to run. >> steve: i wonder if there were a lot of people in california at the turning point event, because the number for the california governor seems so high. >>