. >>> karen tumulty with "the washington post," kristen soltis anderson, a republican pollster and columnist from the washington examiner. she's not my long lost cousin. and david gersten is here as well. karen, does this impact donald trump? his campaign quickly did try to come out with this same essentially trying to clarify what donald trump's position is. >> donald trump supporters are so loyal to donald trump. it's hard to imagine somebody who was thinking about voting for him and has now decided they're not going to because of this. but it does, i think -- i think ted cruz was right. it shows he's not thought through the issue and abortion is such a mine field that he ended up sounding like the way pro-choice people caricature pro-life people. he found himself really twisted into a difficult spot. >> there's been this proliferation of issues that touch on women in many different ways. you have the heidi cruz retweet. you have this question on abortion. and you -- >> corey lewandowski. >> corey lewandowski. if you put them all together, the question is whether you reach a critical mass.

. >> i want to bring in, just to join us on the conversation, we have karen tumulty with us as well, joining us to talk a little bit more about this. first, just your initial thoughts and what are you hearing this afternoon in terms of reaction? >> well, my initial -- as somebody who's covered the abortion issue for quite a while, my initial sense of donald trump is that he really doesn't have a grasp of the history of this issue, and of the, you know, of the history of the law around this issue. and so, because, again, anybody who did would not have said what he said today. he is somebody who describes himself as a recent convert, but you get the sense that he has not really done a lot of thinking, a lot of studying about abortion. >> and it's interesting, because this is a topic that people do, in fact, know a lot about. they have very clear positions on it. it's not something like -- that can be a little bit more nuanced, whether it be immigration of trade. it's so much more. for a lot of people, this is cut and dry. >> absolutely. and one of the things that makes this moment pote

. >>> karen tumulty with "the washington post," kristen soltis anderson, a republican pollster and columnist from the washington examiner. she's not my long lost cousin. and david gerson is here as well. karen, does this impact donald trump? his campaign quickly did try to come out with this same essentially trying to clarify what donald trump's position is. >> donald trump supporters are so loyal to donald trump. it's hard to imagine somebody who was thinking about voting for him and has now decided they're not going to because of this. but it does, i think -- i think ted cruz was right. it shows he's not thought through the issue and abortion is such a mine field that he ended up sounding like the way pro-choice people caricature pro-life people. he found himself really twisted into a difficult spot. >> there's been this proliferation of issues that touch on women in many different ways. you have the heidi cruz retweet. you have this question on abortion. and you -- >> corey lewandowski. >> corey lewandowski. if you put them all together, the question is whether you reach a critical mass.

things. [ laughter ] >> well, the "on the record" political panel is back from "the washington post karen tumultywish we could see what george washington thinks. >> i'm sure he is spinning in his grave. >> we are allo laughing. >> if this offenders anyone, buckle up if those two have to face off in the general election. it's going to get nasty. it's going to get personal. >> that's not nasty. that's silly. i actually laughed. >> this is silly it's middle school humor. it is sort of unbecoming on both sides of people who want to be, you know, the commander and chief of this country. >> but, i mean like do you expect -- it's either that or there can be a lot of lies. i mean, some of the nasty ads in prior campaigns where they just make up horrible stuff about each other. at least this one is sort of funny. i mean, i don't think it's going to change a vote. it doesn't enexpire me to vote for anybody. but it's like at least it's not as bad as some of them. >> well, what about engaging each other on like where you would take the country? >> who is going to watch that? >> well, at some point people who

>> within i think the first 20 minutes, karen tumulty, a wonderful journalist, she posed a question i think a lot of americans want to know, is donald trump a racist? hillary clinton said you can draw your own conclusions but she went on to talk about the unamerican things he has said and how it's divisive and his tone. but she also pointed out that she was one of the first politicians to call him on his comments about mexicans and others. the reason why i think that's relevant is on the republican side you have a lot of turmoil right now. i think part of the reason is because donald trump hesitated on the second try or third try to denounce the ku klux klan or david duke. disassociate himself. i thought that was a very important question. i thought hillary clinton handed herself very well. she had a lot of tough questions. >> let's play that moment for our viewers. so they know what you are referring to. let's play it. >> secretary clinton, you've known donald trump for a long time. you've seen what kind of campaign he's running. secretary clinton, is donald trump a racist? >> you kn

. >> tonight when sanders was pressed on the how, at one point karen tumulty, he said the solution is political revolution and this has been something he said in response to a lot of things. what does that phrase mean to you? how do you understand it as a person running a race state. wide office in florida and is -- if successful going to go to a body that has de facto filibuster built in? >> listen, we spent $3 trillion a year. the federal government spends that a year and our priorities are all screwed up but bernie sanders is saying if we take the existing resources and the fact we have the richest country in the world, the fact we're the only major country in the world that doesn't have universal health care or paid sick leave and reallocate the resources already being there through taxing and otherwise, then this all can happen. >> okay. congressman, congressman, the adverb there is doing a very amount of work. if we simply reorder the priorities the american federal government, yeah, i mean, there's no magic wand to wave. there is a reasoning why the system is the way it is. eur

karen tumulty in miami on what looks like a beautiful morning there. good luck with that debate tomorrow night. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, steve. >>> we have much more ahead here on msnbc. while the rubio campaign is closely watching today's voting date they're also focused as we've been saying on florida and the spokesman for the rubio campaign is going to join me next after fighting back hard over a report that some advisors were telling rubio to bow out earlier rather than lose his home state. >> jamie's report was utter nonsense. she did not contact the campaign prior to coming on the show last hour and reporting that. it is 100% absolutely false. i think cnn is doing a disservice to voters by airing that sort of -- that sort of reporting without even checking with the campaign. her sources, what ever they are, have no idea what the internal operations of the campaign are. wolf, i have a lot of respect from you but i'm going to ask you to stop reading that sort of fiction on air because it is not true. if jamie had checked with the campaign

the country, univision news, together with "the washington post" -- >> here with us tonight is karen tumulty. specialized in national policy. >> welcome, karen. >> now we are going to welcome the protagonist of this debate. first, former secretary of state hillary rodham clinton. and senator bernie sanders. >> welcome to both of you. thank you for being here. >> but before we continue, we want to welcome sebastian de la cruz who is going to sing the national anthem. sebastian, welcome. good evening. ♪ o say, can you see by the dawn's early light ♪ ♪ what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? ♪ ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight ♪ ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming? ♪ ♪ and the rockets' red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪ ♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ and the home of the brave? [ applause ] and i'm still struggling with my diabetes. i do my best to manage. but it's hard to keep up with it. your body and you

the country, univision news, together with "the washington post" -- >> here with us tonight is karen tumulty. specialized in national policy. >> welcome, karen. >> now we are going to welcome the protagonist of this debate. first, former secretary of state hillary rodham clinton. and senator bernie sanders. >> welcome to both of you. thank you for being here. >> but before we continue, we want to welcome sebastian de la cruz who is going to sing the national anthem. sebastian, welcome. good evening. ♪ o say, can you see by the dawn's early light ♪ ♪ what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming? ♪ ♪ whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight ♪ ♪ o'er the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming? ♪ ♪ and the rockets' red glare the bombs bursting in air ♪ ♪ gave proof through the night that our flag was still there ♪ ♪ oh, say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o'er the land of the free ♪ ♪ and the home of the brave? ♪ [ applause ] i think it landed last tuesday. one second it's there. then, woosh, it's gone. i swear i saw it swallow seven peop

. >> karen tumulty has a piece point out where republicans are. had. now look where we. >> well, because there were so many. >> it depends on how you define conservative. that's what this is really about. on the democratic side it's not about ideas. it's about power. democrats wanted to take office so they can have power. they are very straightforward about it whoever can win gets the nomination. the republicans want you to believe something is. they care about ideas. which is, i think, touching and impressive but it's clumsy when the party can't agree on what those ideas are. >> who is at cpac today, this weekend? donald trump skipping that big event. the people in the crowd. it was, you know, they were planned protests. get up and boo donald trump. that's what they were arguing the donald trump scared of us. >> he didn't walk in because we were going to walk out that's why he didn't show up. >> the chairman of cpac was on the kelly file last night said that's the reason why. do you agree with this? listen. >> i think they figured since they are