karen tumulty, have norms changed?h, i think that the #meo movement is sort of evolving from a movement into a norm, and by that i mean part of all of this is all of us understanding that, when women come forwarde with thcounts, that we both give them the benefit ofin the doub their version of events, but also the benefit in the doubt of tlhe vaidity of their feelings about it. but, at the same time, i think we do have to recognize that not every offense has carried the same degree of severity and that, you know, a lot of these c jume from, you know, behavior thats just clueless. and if the person who is, you know, alleged to have committed these sort of understands t degree to which this behavior makes pple uncomfortable and is sensitive to that, i do think that thre reaought to be, you know, a path to redemption, for lesser offeers, as it were. >> woodruff: i want to explore that but i want to come back, too, to what you said, professor dobbin. you talked about a generational shift. you know, what did you mean by tha

karen tumulty, you first.well, i think tht this shows, among other things, sort of how rusty he is at this. his initial response to this was essentially to say to the women who were accusing him of making them uncomfortable was to say i'm sorry that your feengs got hurt. this is a very different kind of statement. this is him sort o acknowledging that the fault lies in hiown actions and promising to change those actions. >> woodruff: professor dobbin, w did you read what th vice president said? >> well, i think it's a little surprising that he didn't follow the issue over the last nearly 40 years since he was in thema clarence thearings in o91, but i think it's an indication of ki a generational shift. there's a neration of peoe that just hasn't really been aware of what kinds of changes in social norms there are, and, in this case, he at least acknowledges that he was out of sync with what was going on. >> woodruff: rebecca traister, how did you har him >> well, i do think that especially the final part about

and of course, jocelyn know this is as whelm and karen tumulty. we go back and forth because i'm from south dakota. we don't even know where north dakota is. karen is a terrific columnist for "the washington post." she's been a national correspondent for the paper. she's received several distinguished prizes for her commentary. and she is -- spent a good period of her career at time mag zeen and is now nervous about what she's going to have to do immediately after this. so i'm going to turn to karen immediately after we get going so that she can scoot and figure out what the release means and what's happening out there. so that's our group. and i want to say that it's a terrific group. had tremendous support here from n. y.u.'s team and pauley and tom mcintyre putting this together i have enormous appreciation for what they've done. let me run quickly to this report. it's now available on the brookings institution's website at brooks.edu. you can pick it up. it's been designed and it's pretty accessible. and my appreciation to the crew at brookings

and karen tumulty -- i go back and forth because i'm from south dakota and we don't even know where north dakota is. karen is a terrific columnist for the "washington post." she's been a national correspondent for the paper. she has received several distinguished prices for her report and commentary, and she has spent a good time at "time" magazine and is now nervous about what going to have to do immediately after this i'm going to turn to karen immediately after we get going so that she can scoot and figure out what the release means and what's happening out there. so that's our group, and i want to say that it's a terrific group. i had support her from nyu's team including poly and tom mcintyre in putting this together, and the enormous appreciation for what they've done. let me run quickly through this report. it's not available on the brookings institutions website at brookings.edu. you can pick it up. it's been designed and it's pretty accessible, and my appreciation to the crew at the brookings for all they did. so we will go quickly, if i can get this thing to work -- i'm sorry, t