so now for part ii of our discussion with kari lyndersen and mando robles about kari lyndersen's really new book "revolt on goose island: the chicago factory takeover, and whatt says about the ecomic crisis". i am going to say one thing before we open up the floor to discussion. some of you have perhapseen this documentary, jonathan rosenbaum has seen it and probably written about it. the docentary about the french sociologist called sociology is a martial art. is an inresting film. at the end of the film, there is memorable scene where bordeaux does to an arab neighborhood, an algerian neighborhood in paris and engages in this very high voltage, intellectual, political exchange with a youth and activists and young graduates students in this community, in the algerian community in paris. at one point there is this contentious exchange and bordeaux sayto a particular person who has asked him this very -- basically this young activist says to him, hat is all this sociological nonsense? you are not tking about our experience. you think at that moment that bordeaux might change his toned. i