we explore how the administration can bridge these divides, with: karine jean-pierre, a veteran of thema administration. and, barry bennett. he was a senior advisor to the trump presidential campaign. and welcome to both of you. thank you for being with us again. general john kelly, he's been on the job three days. has everything changed? >> well, i think three days is not a pattern for donald trump. i think maybe in three weeks, then we can look back to see if john kelly can hold up to his distinguished career and being that general that he is and bringing everything together. but i don't have a lot of confidence in that. many people have tried. before john kelly and have failed. and you really just can't change the man by changing staff. it just is not going to work with donald trump. he doesn't want to be managed. he wants to be his own chief of staff, his own communications director, and his own chief counsel. >> woodruff: what do you see, barry bennett? >> well, i think that if his mission were to change donald trump that would probably be a failure in the end. i think his mission

to get two different perspectives on all of this, we're joined by karine jean- pierre, a senior advisorveon.org and a veteran of the obama administration. and from phoenix, chris buskirk, editor of the conservative blog americangreatness.org, and a talk radio host. thank you both for joining us. karine, let me start with you. since saturday, there has been a lot going on and it seems like a big moment. what does this tell us about who we are as americans in 2017 and where we are as a nation. >> right, there's clearly no secret that this country has struggled with racism for many, many decades, right? it is a dark, troubling history of ours and, so, the difference is that most presidents have been on both sides of the aisle, when it comes to a scenario like this, they would have tried really hard to bring the country together. now, i have not agreed with both sides of the aisle, either democratic or republican presidents, on how they've dealt with race, but they come from a place, usually, where they feel like the country needs to come together, we have to do all that we can. what we've

we turn to karine jean-pierre.'s a senior adviser to moveon.org, a contributing editor to "bustle," an online women's magazine, and a veteran of the obama administration. and matt schlapp, he's the chairman of the american conservative union and the former white house political director under president george w. bush. and it's great to see you both with us again. thank you very much. matt, i want to come to you first. the president is talking unity today in that speech that he gave in nevada. but last night-- >> yeah. >> woodruff: it was a raucous call. he was defending the way he handled charlottesville. i was just talking to congressman hurd about it. his supporters in the audience loved it, but a lot of people who were listening say they were concerned about what they heard. how did you hear it? >> yeah, i think that's what's going on in our politics and it's been going on for, i think, for too long. but we're in our corners. the nation is are very divided plecht has never been more left, and the right has never

to discuss all that, we're joined again by karine jean-pierre.'s a senior adviser to moveon.org, a contributing editor to bustle, which is an online women's magazine, and a veteran of the obama administration. and also, matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union and the former white house political director for president george w. bush. let's begin with you, your old boss learned the pitfalls of dealing with natural disaster. >> he didn't like being called old. >> reporter: after you left the white house i should add. how is president trump handling his first major challenge dealing with the natural disaster. >> it's tough for the president. they are damned if they do, damned if they don't. they're criticized for going down and getting the attention off those whose lives are in danger. but then when they stay back and try to monitor thing from the situation room people say you're not showing compassion and should you be out there talking to folks. so, i think donald trump understood that there were going to be credit can no matter