jason johnson of the root and karine jean-pierre, of "moving forward." am going to go ahead and start with karine. go. who won the year? >> politically i believe attorney general tish james who by the way had spent her career breaking barriers whether it is gender or race so kudos to her to that. she's been at the forefront of the legal defense against donald trump's policies this year. she soothe tued the administrat times. she's been on top of it. she's been killing it. really has been a voice for many of us who feels like we are voiceless and taken it to the court. >> i don't think anybody that donald trump is probably more afraid of if i can get inside his mind than her. you would have to do like a joint deal if he ever to make a deal. he would also have to deal with her. >> i don't think so. >> got to be tough to pass that one, jason johnson. in the show we tend to put you on the spot. it is not personal. it is just the way we operate. >> joy, you can only choose one, joy. >> exactly. >> whoa. >> looking forward. >> this time pick one person, jason.

join me in giving a warm miami book fair woman to karine jean-pierre. maas applause [applause] >> hi. hi, everybody. >> hi. >> thank you for coming. hi, hi, hi. i see jedwin back there i have to give her some love. >> what is his nickname for you? >> tika. maybe like ka. >> your first name is pronounced in creole. >> karine. >> karine jean-pierre. >> moving forward, my first question for you is, how does your haitianness inform your -- >> wait, i have to say something, thank you so much, marlon, i'm so sorry, thank you for doing this. >> no problem. >> i have to do this i've known marlon for a long time. a wonderful, great guy. one of the major supporters down here for president barack obama in 2008, and now you're doing your own thing, which i'm very proud of you. so just wanted to make sure i honored you as well. >> thank you very much. it's a pleasure to substitute for here ray ramos. -- jorge ramos. and i want to ask you up front, how does -- what was it like the first time you came across through customs into america? do you remember that? >> i was

alcindor: thank you so much chris buskirk and karine jean-pierre. >> thank you, yamiche. thank you, yamiche. >> th is pbs newshour weekend saturday. >> alcindor: christmas trees are a sign of the season, and those trees-- fromhe biggest and most spectacular to the smallest-- all need decorations. some of the most pzed come from a mexican town where the art of making hand-blown glass ornames is the source of economic success that lasts all year long. newshour weefend's ivette liciano has the story. >> reporter: the handmade glass christmas tree ornaments from githe town of tlalpujaa production over a more than 1,30degree flame. expert artisans transform long glass tubes into shaat are tourists from all he worldrated. visit local shops filled with the shiny and unique decorations.>> translated ): the good thing for us is providing happiness to people with the products that we make for christmas. it's happiness, a feeling of satisfactionto know that we are giving joy to all families. >> reporter: the town, northwest of mexico city, once thrived on income from gold andilver m

. >> karine jean-pierre.he's the author of a new book that tells the story that she knows quite well. it is her own. it is called "moving forward," the story of hope and promise of america. rick wilson remains with us. karine, could you make the argument that biden's problems along these lines is he has not settle on the story, the response, the story to tell for now? >> that's the problem biden has. what is your narrative? can you control your story? he tends to not do that. i have to say his response yesterday was a good one. the one where the older gentleman came to him and said "hey, i don't think you are too old or talked to him about the hunter situation with ukraine." i thought biden answered that pretty well. he needed to be a little more clear but he showed some fire in his belly. we need to see more of that with a clearer message. i have to say as well with the car carey's endorsement and this plays into the narrative that biden tries to do it. what the carey endorsement does is that biden is safe.

we're happy to have joining our conversation, karine jean pierre, chief public affairs officer for move is also the author of a new book that tells the story she knows quite well. it's her own. it's called "moving forward: a story of hope, hard work, and the promise of america." her fellow author, rick wilson, remains with us. karine, could you make the argument that biden's problem along these lines is he hasn't settled on the story, the response, the story to tell. for now his story is owned by the other side. >> yeah, that is a problem that biden has, which is what is your narrative? can you control your story, right? that's kind of politics 101. control the narrative before the other side does. and he tends to not do that. but i do have to say, though, his response yesterday was a good one, the one where an older gentleman came to him and said, hey, you know, i don't think -- you're too old or talked to him about the hunter situation with ukraine. and i thought biden answered that pretty well. he probably -- his message needed to be a little bit more clear, but he showed some fire i

karine jean-pierre, we are watching the debate together.the debate comes up, it did come up as how is this going to hurt the party. >> merry impeachment to everybody out there. as you were saying we never saw these high numbers with impeachment during the nixon times especially at this time during nixon's trial. it was never this high during clinton at all. 70% of americans believe that donald trump did something wrong. we can't get 70% of americans agree today is sunday, that's how divided we are. democrats are not only on the right side of history on this. they're on the right side of politics on this. # the thing is, i think there is this mystical believe or donald trump has this mystical power that he's a magical politician. if we go back to 2016, 70,000 people, 70,000 got him to more than 270 college electoral vote. why? we had this information campaign led by russia, james comey put out a letter days before hillary clinton and that hurt hillary clinton. there is no magic. republicans lost in many key races in 2018 and 2017. democrats

former federal prosecutor, karine jean-pierre and author of "moving forward."asked everybody that i interview for the book, what happens, in all seriousness what happens if donald trump who does not believe in the constitutional norms and believe in power and money for donald trump. if he just says, you know what if i leave this office, i may get prosecuted in new york. what would happen? >> he keeps on joking about it. dictators happens all over the world. the 22nd amendment says the president has two terms or he or she is out. the remedy, the president messes up. when he commits a high crime or misdemeanor is impeachment and removal from office. would that happen? we have to ask whether that would. if you look at articles of impeachment. donald trump ignores congress. he does not believe in separation of powers or checks and balances and the republicans allowed him to get away with it. >> that's the key. >> that's the key. the only thing that stops a mindset in a democracy is the legislative branch saying no. donald trump has been eaten up the third of the fe

. >> karine jean pierre, thank you as always. it's a pleasure. and you become the last voice we hear in this momentous week in washington and beyond. always a pleasure. >>> coming up for us, we will hear lindsey graham's strong warning to his fellow lawmakers to keep an open mind until they have heard the evidence. >>> last thing before we go tonight, we heard mitch mcconnell earlier say it for himself. he's working in lockstep with this white house, and he expects every republican to vote to clear the president in the senate. now, presumably that would include senator lindsey graham because when it comes to loyalty to this president, no one outfeals his fealty to donald trump. here's the difference. we know for a fact lindsey graham wants everyone to keep an open mind when they consider impeachment. he doesn't want anyone pre-judging guilty or innocence. we know this because he said it on tv, and we're prepared to show it to you here tonight with just this passing caveat. even though he is talking about a different president here, let's assume h

here to talk about it, karine jean-pierre, alum of the obama campaign and house.ok, "moving forward: a story of hope, hard work, and the promise of america." it's a story that happens to belong to her and we are happy to welcome her back on the broadcast. karine, other than the fact that jeremy corbyn may have been the worst candidate in any country in 100 years' time, what do you view as the lessons of bojo's election to democrats in this country, if any, at all? >> i think we should be mindful of what we saw happen last night in the you work on, especially in unprecedented times. i think that's the biggest thing. we have been living in this kind of whirlwind of not knowing exactly how things are going to turn out. brexit was one of the things voters voted on. so that is a unique scenario in that election. if you think about the ukraine call and you think about clearly donald trump is being impeached for, 70% of americans basically said they thought that call was wrong and what he did was wrong. that is a massive number in such a politically divided country that

our conversation chief public affairs officer from moveon.org and author of moving forward karine jean-pierreuestion. i don't really care what he's doing there. but why does anyone think he's doing anything other than what the president wants him to do? we now have the phone records that show him talking to the white house. we've had gordon sondland testify. everything i did was at the direction of the president and what the president told zelensky to do and what the president told all of the white house officials to do was to work with rudy. this isn't a rudy story. this is a trump story. >> this is not about his lawyer, his personal lawyer. this is about donald trump himself. >> who is still running a dirt campaign in ukraine fthrough rudy. >> you have to think that rudy must be walking around with pardon papers in his jacket pocket. >> clearly. >> he is so neck-deep in illegal behavior. and as you were saying this is on the verge, on the cusp, of the president getting impeached by the house. you have rudy giuliani in ukraine getting fresh information on how to interfere in our elections at

former prosecutor, andrew weissmann, karine jean-pierre, chief public affairs officer from moveon.orgformer chief spokesman at the doj, matt miller, and editor-at-large for the conservative commentary the bulwark charlie sykes. msnbc correspondent garrett haake. garrett, first of all, congratulations on your body of impeachment reporting. we've relied on you -- >> thank you. >> through the whole process. so we will start today on the first day of the rest of donald trump's presidency. what is the state of play this hour? >> well, the house is wrapping up their last votes. ironically the final vote they will take is on the usmca, the trade deal that donald trump so much wanted to see get passed this year. they will leave washington, d.c. without selecting their managers for the impeachment case in the senate. that is a necessary step before the articles of impeachment can be transferred to the senate. and while it is possible that they could do something by unanimous consent in a proforma session to some procedural efforts over the holiday break, what this tells us is something we sort

david ignatius and karine jean-pierre are with us still as well.ael. 80% of white evangelicals voted for donald trump in 2016. i don't know that i expect many of them to turn on donald trump any time soon. it is fascinating though that the -- really sort of the center of christianity is asking god, asking jesus for forgiveness and donald trump has said time and again he just doesn't need to do it. >> yes, it is a big mystery obviously. it is something i have thought about a long time. you know, something who goes to church myself, somebody that followed politics for a long time, trying to understand why evangelicals came out in such large numbers for trump, white evangelicals. the big thing i found and i write in my column it is less about religion but the culture around religion, which i think is an important distinction. a lot of interesting social science research has been coming out looking at what drove the white evangelical vote and it is not about economics or ideology. it is actually this fusion of cultural beliefs, religion and culture tha

senior adviser at moveon.org karine jean-pierre. robinson and joining the conversation "the new york times," peter baker. and out in los angeles for last night's democratic debate, national affairs analyst for nbc news and msnbc john heilemann. he's the co-host and executive producer of show time's "the circus ". i'd love to get your take on "christianity today" which came out forcefully for the removal of president trump from office and franklin graham pushed back saying it had liberal strains to it, doesn't represent the evangelical community. can we ask the same question at this point about evangelicals that we are asking about republicans? are they not evangelicals anymore? >> well, "christianity today" is not a liberal publication. i think it's the most well-read magazine in the evangelical world. it's always held a center spot in the evangelical world. and just because franklin graham says that they're now liberal says a lot more about franklin graham. >> yeah. >> than it does about "christianity today." you talk about worship

and karine jean t-pierre. and today is another key day in the historic march toward president trump's impeachment. this morning the house rules committee will take up articles of impeachment for the first time ever. one last step to consider the procedures that will govern tomorrow's full house vote. and with the handful of moderate democrats from trump districts yesterday announcing they will vote to impeach, it is now all but certain that tomorrow president trump will become only the third president to be impeached by the house of representatives in history. we will get to the new developments and whether the senate trial will feature any new witnesses. but first, the man who is helping get the president to this precipice, rudy giuliani and i just won't stop talking. >> he won't stop. >> he can't stop. >> rudy, it's not good for you or those ukrainian guys you hang out with or the president of the zbluts united states. >> you need a lawyer actually. >> a new piece "the new yorker" reveals the remarkable admi

it's a pretty limited list to mike bloomberg and joe biden, but we'll see. >> karine jean-pierre, thank. we look forward to having you later on this week. heidi przybyla, thank you for your reporting. >>> still ahead, cory booker joins the conversation. plus, is attorney general william barr undermining his own justice department in order to once again protect president trump? nbc's julia ainsley joins us with her new findings next on "morning joe." ♪ ♪ hi honey, we got in early. yeah, and we brought steve and mark. ♪ experience the power of sanctuary at the lincoln wish list sales event. sign and drive off in a new lincoln with zero down, zero due at signing, and a complimentary first month's payment. wean air force veteran made of doing what's right,. not what's easy. so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right. usaa insurance is made just the way martin's family needs it - with hassle-free claims, he got paid before his neighbor even got started. because doing right by our members, that's what's right. usaa. what you'r

and karine jean t-pierre.oward president trump's impeachment. this morning the house rules committee will take up articles of impeachment for the first time ever. one last step to consider the procedures that will govern tomorrow's full house vote. and with the handful of moderate democrats from trump districts yesterday announcing they will vote to impeach, it is now all but certain that tomorrow president trump will become only the third president to be impeached by the house of representatives in history. we will get to the new developments and whether the senate trial

. >> we have senior adviser at movon.org karine jean-pierre. and eugene robinson.herman. >> great group. >> i am so excited to have gene robinson here. can anybody tell me around the table why i am? >> london bureau. >> he's a listened to don resculondon bureau guy. gene, you, back there in the early days. >> i was there in the early '90s, yeah. >> early '90s, same thing. you were there in the early '90s. obviously right after the big win, '87 win for thatcher. but you were there when labor was actually getting their act together and moving toward a new labor approach that worked for them. richard was just saying that last night was back to the future. john was talking about this is like -- it is like the labor party of 1977, 1978. >> yeah. >> michael foot. >> new labor went back to being paleolithic labor all the way back. and it was, you know, disaster, debacle, catastrophe, i don't know how you -- you know, how you categorize it. when i was in london, boris johnson was an unethical and dishonest journalist writing for the daily telegraphy and sort a stories up b

karine jean-pierre has a great piece about networking which is an important piece of a component of atley on asking for a raise. and also we've had an amazing response to our piece, to my piece on the power of pets. >> it's really been moving. >> and our viewers have written in and sent in pictures. >> yeah. >> and you're going to read a few of them, including an incredible piece about a female german shepherd named mika. yep, there's another one. what i can say? >> willie, we have found that a lot of people are naming their female dogs mika. i don't know where that comes from. >> it's nice, i appreciate it, i really do. >> but i think nicolle wallace? >> it's actually an amazing piece. >> i think nicolle wallace -- >> she has one of her dogs named meek p mika. wait until you hear about this german shepherd. >> did you guys ever seestory. it is amazing. >> did you guys see this in it is not just dogs. there's a "usa today" story that said the three most -- like the newest names, emerging names for girls -- >> for pets or babies? >> for people. reese. >> billie eilish. >> oh, i love th