straight to karishma in jakarta for us.e a potential problem here, karishma, legally as well, that we have both candidates now claiming victory? >> yes, indeed, lucy, that's what people here are worried about. how this process will continue, but what everyone is waiting for is the official result, which will be out on the 21st and 22nd of july. we already had a number of indonesian officials including the sitting president, who has come out on television and he said, please wait, everybody, let's not jump to any conclusions, we have to wait for due process in the electoral process to continue. let's wait for the results to come out in the 21st and 22nd before launching any appeals or claiming victory as we have seen, both candidates in this election do. >> are people surprised there, karishma, that joko has done so well? >> no, i don't think so, lucy. i think he was the clear front-runner in this race and it is a situation where joko certainly was being seen as the clear winner until about a month ago when his numbers start