ted gouge anaheim, karissa ortega. >>> good afternoon, supervisors. [speaker not understood]. from 1983 i worked in the field of tobacco. over the last 23 years as the director of the [speaker not understood] program in san francisco general hospital and for the county. i want to address two observations that i've made in the last few years around e-cigarettes. the san francisco general the participants attending stop program smoking are engaged in dual use of cigarettes and e-cigarettes. it changes depending on the environment. the consequence he are many reduce dependency on nicotine. we noticed nobody has ever stopped smoking from using e-cigarette. [speaker not understood]. former smokers have quit for a long period of time expressed concern for using e-cigarettes in environments that have prohibited tobacco use. this scares them as they feel the regulation is needed and they feel they will be triggered by seeing the vapor if they turn to smoking. for these reasons i support the amendment and the regulation of e-cigarettes. >> thank you. next speaker. nice shirt. >>> thank