i'm in no way encouraging anybody to stab karl rove. there's a big difference between karl rove and ham rove. jimmy put up the pictures. [ laughter ] no, jimmy -- [cheers and applause] jimmy, no, not two ham roves, one of them should be karl. thank you, thank you. they are totally different. but, okay, because easter is coming up i want to ask everybody to make sure that the nice juicy ham you are cutting into is not karl rove. [ laughter ] there's an easy test. before you slice into your ham, ask it if it ever put anti-gay marriage legislation in swing states to tip the scales in the 2004 presidential election. if it answers yes, that could be karl rove. [ laughter ] actually if it answers at all, better not eat it at all. [ laughter ] and karl, to avoid any confusion with ham rove for the next week or so, please avoid the urge to cover your face with pineapple rings. [cheers and applause] [laughter] >> stephen: fight it. fight it. in an unrelated note, karl, if you are not doing anything this sunday, why not come over to my house for

that's right, karl. you cross the tea party and you could end up like the last candidate they targeted for destruction barack obama. [laughter] hmm. think about it. [ laughter ] clearly -- clearly, the republican party is tearing itself in half. i guess nobody remembers this guy, ronald reagan, the white marco rubio. [laughter] he had a little something called "the eleventh commandment." "thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow republican." that's all over now and i could mean only one thing. >> civil war. >> the president of citizens united declared the civil war has begun. >> it's full-on gop warfare. it's gop civil war. >> stephen: yes, gop civil war. of course, the first thing they'll have to fight over is which side gets the confederate flag. [laughter] so, as a conservative, i guess i have to choose sides. karl and i have had some good times, we buried that hooker. [laughter] but deep down, my heart is with the tea party. well, maybe not my heart. what organ produces bile. gall bladder, i guess. i d

a day later, karl rove tried to backtrack.a statement, rove said, i was ask fundamental i could see a republican presidential candidate supporting gay marriage in 2016, and i said i could. i was not asked if i could see the republican presidential candidate or the gop presidential nominee." as for the latest "washington post" poll showing the country's support of marriage equality at an all-time high, the religious right's gary bauer sounded a familiar note. >> do you worry that this only puts the republican party further out of touch with the mainstream of american voters? >> no, i'm not worried about it, because the polls are skewed, chris. >> the polls are skewed. not but five months ago, republican poll deniers were in full swing. and we know how far that got them. let us bring in jonathan turley, a professor of constitutional law at george washington university, jonathan capehart, opinion writer for "the washington post," and ryan grim, washington bureau chief for the "huffington post." ryan, i can't believe we're talking

and i agree with karl. the problem is, and this the entire point, they didn't lose 72% of latino votes because of tactics. and they didn't lose women by double digit because of tactics, outreach, they lost it because they're wrong on the issues. they no longer speak to a majority of americans. a pew poll came out this morning an interesting column, saying that the republican brand is at its lowest ebb in 30 years. 58% disapprove. that's not about tactics, that's about issues. >> this report says that he hasn't seen a issue like this, where the party was so out of center since the democrats since in 1968. >> you know, i tend to think that the gop's central problems have to do with things that we don't talk a whole lot about, one is what happened in 2008 and the continuing repercussions of the crush. where the party stands. what its positions are on how to create growth. that's becoming part of the party, a rising disagreement, not a disagreement, but a rising difference of emphasis between those who are sayi

karl rove.f karl rove does come in the studio, he is not coming in here as a friend of bill. >> that's right. there you go >> bill: let's make it carl fristche will be here in the next hour, as a friend of bill. what is a little blurry i can't see the tele prompter. >> i understand. >> all right. yeah indeed,? newark new jersey a woman tricking several elder women to reveal personal information and open fraudulent credit card accounts randomly calling people named ruth from the phone director saying she was conducting a survey and these poor suckers gave her all of their information. see what she did with it. identity theft. you have to be protected against it. i am, with lifelock ultimate the most comprehensive protection. call now mention press 60. get 60 risk-free days of lifelock ultimate identity theft protection. if not happy, call and cancel within 60 days and get a full refund. see lifelock.com for details and make that call to 1-800-3565967 to lifelock ultimate. 1-800-356-5967. >> socia

going through that crucible, karl rove went to dallas, texas yesterday with an explanation. it wasn't him, he said. it wasn't his fault. he did nothing wrong. it was those crappy candidates. he said sure, his donors were mad at him because of this last election, but they were only mad at him because karl could not find better people to whom he should give their money. "my pfteer yore was shredded a little bit by donors wondering why we were writing checks for people who then turned around and ran such lousy campaigns." "we've given away at least five seats in the last two election cycles, maybe more, because of poor candidates. our donors said we're happy to write big checks, but we're sick and tired of writing checks for campaigns that can't win." well, naturally, the self-assessment of a guy who just spent $320 million with nothing to show for it includes the sentence "our donors said we're still happy to write big checks." sure, they are. keep saying that. but the what went wrong post-2012 diagnosis for the republican party establishment that lost the election so badly

will that effect the ability to move karl moyer program forward? that is what i was alluding to and i should have been more clear. >> any other questions, seeing none, let's open for public comment. any public comment? >> what? no public comment? >> no. okay. all right, public comment is closed. >> and let's see, this is an informational action, item, so is there actions that anyone would like to take on this item? >> hello? >> might to move for the recommendation? >> yes. >> i didn't hear you. >> i will move the recommendations. >> thank you, supervisor chiu. thank you so much commissioner. without, we will take the recommendation and madam clerk, could you call item number four? >> recommended increase of the amount of the professional services krt with perkins and will by $395,000 to a total amount not-to-exceed $1555000 for planning urban design, conceptual engineering and out reach and environmental analysis services for better market street planning and environmental studsy authoritying the executive director to modify no one material contrac

sign the petition to give karl rove a piece of your mind.y seem to be openly going at each other's throats here. >> right, you know, often, when they say, hey, this party that just lost this election needs to rethink its future, they end up not doing that. but karl rove and the other folks in the republican party have kind of forced this conversation on to the republican party. this is more than rethinking. you're right. they are at war with each other. and democrats are just absolutely loving it. what's better for them than republicans spending their own money attacking each other and tearing themselves down all the way into this midterm election. the longer they do this, the better chance that democrats have to actually take the house this next and then give obama the last two years of his presidency to actually get some legislation through. until democrats are back in control of the house, the republicans, no matter how poorly they do on the national stage, can continue to block the progressive agenda. >> now, angela, this weekend, the rn

will that effect the ability to move karl moyer program forward? that is what i was alluding to and i should have been more clear. >> any other questions, seeing none, let's open for public comment. any public comment? >> what? no public comment? >> no. okay. all right, public comment is closed. >> and let's see, this is an informational action, item, so is there actions that anyone would like to take on this item? >> hello?

karl frisch, democratic strategy. war room" if gay rights are the civil rights issue of this generation someone had better clue in professional sports which now lags behind the military of all places in terms of lbgt acceptance. that store i have next rite here in "the war room." thinking. >>ok, so there's wiggle room in the ten commandments, that's what you're saying. (vo) she's joy behar. >>current will let me say anything. >> michael: >> michael: they are the four big sports leagues, and without question they are home to the elite of the elite in professional sports they have also served as catalysts for important social and economic change, jackie robinson being the prime example, though there are many others but at no time not the 140-plus years of majority leader, in the 90 years of the nfl and nhf, and the years of any nba has there been an openly gay player amongst their ranks. and it appears that no one is in a great hurry for that to change. this is mike florio talk. >> here is the elephant in the room for t

next on the run down sarah palin working over our pal karl rove verbally. what does brit hume think about that? later adam carolla strikes back against the huffington post implying is he a racist. jessica controversy growing in colorado. we're coming right back. >> bill: hume zone segment tonight. speaking at cpac on saturday, sarah palin said this. >> the last thing we need is quawgd g washington, d.c. vetting our candidates. the architect can head on back to. [ laughter ] >> head on back to the great lone star state and put their name on some ballot. >> i would say if i did run for office and win, i would serve out my term. i wouldn't leave office in midterm. >> bill: oh. mr. rove referring to governor palin resigning as governor of alaska in 2009. obviously no love lost there. joining us now from miami, fox news senior political analyst brit hume. first of all, you borrow that from hillary clinton's pants suit? >> this is my south beach look, bill. don't knock it. >> bill: i can see you in south beach. really, i'm going to send watters down to follow you

karl frisch, karl frisch.com some fantastic stuff.sight, karlfrisch.com. you have a -- >> youth in government it changed my life. >> hal: so not only is karl frisch's site great in and of it's a, but also if you got a moment, and -- and you are leaning that way at all, you know, go by there, click on the link and donate. >> and he tends to be super funny. >> i try to be. >> there is no try, karl. there just is. >> hal: thank you yoda jacki. thank you karl frisch for leaving us on a yoda laugh. >> take chair. >> hal: we're going to talk about the president's trip to israel. and the difficult issues of the middle east peace process, dealing with the israeli palestinians and territorial disputes, and after we discuss it -- >> we're going to plant a tree? >> hal: no, i have to pick a religion to join so it will be science science sciencetolgy, or free may sons. we'll be back. >> and now here is something we hope you really like. noups it's the "stephanie miller show." ♪ while your carpets may appear clean. it's scary how much dirt your va

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karl, i think. karl. yeah, yeah. he was a nice guy. yeah. what company was it? defend. defend. talked a little bit. you need an exterminator? not really. oh, don't tell me. because he's black? gotta go. george. george! hello. this is jerry seinfeld. is elaine there? hold on. elaine, there's a jerry seinfeld on the phone for you. hello. elaine, i need a big favor. go meet bridgette at the diplomat's club. i'll be late. that's at the airport. i don't want bridgette to think i stood her up. she'll freak out. o.k., o.k., you sound a little freaked out yourself. i am a little freaked out! calm down. i'll handle it. o.k., but leave now! i said i'll handle it! kramer. hey. o.k., here it is. good. here's my collateral. so it's a mailbag, so what? so what? you know whose mailbag that is? "david berkowitz." son of sam. the worst mass murderer the post office ever produced. where'd you get this? i took over his route. and, boy, were there dogs on that route. any of them talking to you? just to tell me to keep off the snacks. your bud is a hell of a guy. yeah, don't i know it? o.k., cosmo,

are democrats getting their hopes up too much karl?ight be getting our hopes up too much, but i don't think the amount of support is overblown. you will show marriage equality gaining more and more strength with ever poll. this a past yeek we saw polls of nearly two-thirds of americans supporting marriage equality almost 60%. when this supreme court strikes down the defense of marriage act, and when this supreme court makes it so marriage equality at least comes back to california you'll see those numbers change even more. when people recognize there's a reality that marriage equal city coming, they feel much more sure of themselves in seeing that they too stand with marriage equality, just like they did after president obama endorsed marriage equality. >> michael: i'm glad you brought that up. changing the conversation always seems to be one of the most important parts of what -- of course the supreme court can change the law but what a president does so i'm glad you brought that up. i want to ask you as a00. thing, what do you think

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so i think there's a chance that karl rove might not have been too off on that one.aps one of the things i agree with karl rove on. >> of course that is exactly what the strategy seems to have been in the last two election cycles is to write off vast swaths of the population. jonathan, i want to talk about the politics of this before we have to go. that is, obviously on the democratic party side, i mean, this is kind of a, you know, no brainer gate issue i would say for someone seeking the nomination on the democratic ticket. on the republican side, though, i'm not sure i agree with karl rove that the person who is their nominee would be an advocate. it certainly seems like it's going to be a much tougher issue in 2016 for someone seeking national office, given the numbers that chad was just talking about. >> very tough for someone on the republican side to not be in favor of marriage equality? >> correct. i mean, given the fund-raising issues. this is an area where republicans are raising a lot of money. it's obviously an area where vast swaths of the population hav

. >> on the karl moyer legislation? >> yes. >> senate transportation committee, has been skeptical on last year's measure that almost passed that was similar to this bill. there is two levels of skepticism and two levels that are funded in this measure, one is ab118 which provides funding for a range of alternative duel transportation and the other is the karl moyer program, that is not the center of the interest of the senate transportation committee chair and staff, the other section, the ab118 there are constitutional questions have arisen about the source or the use of registration fees for some of the things that the energy commission has later made allocations for. that is going to be on the going focus for that bill in the transportation. i believe that the karl moyer portion is in good standing, and but it is also tied into the same bills, so that is going to be the trick, if there is a fatal flaw with the ab 118 funding, issues. will that effect the ability to move karl moyer program forward? that is what i was

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karl rove is trying to stop might work out for steve king.might end up being their guy in that race. the republican party is not yet done purging itself, purging itself of electable moderates. they don't want the one that can win. they want purity. they demand it still. the prevailing winds in republican politics are still blowing in that direction. just yesterday the far right club for growth launched primary my congressman, exclamation point, dotcom. trying to gin up primary challengers against serving republican congressmen, who are deemed not far right enough and therefore in need of being purged from the party. the virginia republican congressman who was referred to positively by president obama at a home district rally the other day, he was immediately rewarded in his district by talk of a tea party challenge from the right. they're still doing this. the nomination of mitt romney notwithstanding, this is still the defining feature of -- defining kinetic activity within the republican party in the post-bush-cheney era. republicans are st

and karl rove is not known for grasping the obvious. right? here, he has grasped the obvious. every demographic group every religious group are now showing a majority of approval for same-gender marriage. it's an astounding thing. never in the history of any civil rights movement have we come so far so fast. and, i would say, even if we achieve full marriage equality and all of the other equal status of citizenship in this country, there would be work to be done. let's remember that when we got the jim crow laws off of the books in the signatures for african-americans, it didn't mean the end of racism. and there will still be anti-gay feeling and sentiment in the country that will need to be worked on. but getting the laws in order, that is an important step forward. >> these are all signs of just about every sector of the economy, young people, older people? >> that's right. >> businesses, you know academics, whatever action recognizing that this is an issue whose time has come. right? >> that's right. we've got, i think it's 81% of young people. >> 81%. >> favors same-sex ma

you' do you want palin or karl rove out organizing and vetting?neither out there. i think karl rove knows how to win elections. he won two with george bush. palin was a successf fuful -- i alaska. she was -- you know, she had a -- >> you're so cold about this. i have never seen -- i mean, i don't agree with anything she says. but that is a political genuine article. she puts a better show -- that's why she died on fox. that booth she was up in wasilla didn't work on the stage. moving around. obviously a very attractive person. moving around on that stage. look how she dominates that stage. what is that if it isn't p politics? >> she's a great show person. very good speech maker. she wasn't a particularly good governor. she quit mid-term. i think that killed her. she really can't articulate in any convincing way a governing philosophy that works in the future. >> let me ask you, michael, can you squeeze the juice out of a grapefruit and still sell it? >> watching these two up there -- >> answer my questions. can you squeeze the juice out of a polit

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karl frisch is here right out of the box. ♪ carl ♪ >> stephanie: karl frisch bullfightstrategies.com.tephanie: good morning karl frisch. >> good morning, from the bul fight strategies office right across from the supreme court. noo >> stephanie: look at you. location, location location. >> it has been very exciting. i saw a group of junior high students with a sign that said kids deserve a mom and a dad, and i said and they deserve to be in school. [ laughter ] >> stephanie: yesterday doma your take on that obviously that seems like good news. they seem skeptical of doma right? >> yeah, it is awesome us in for anybody who lives in a state that happens to recognize marriage equality because then they would at least in regards to marriage have the same rights as anybody else. but if you live anywhere else getting rid of doma doesn't really change anything for you other than you can move somewhere else and have the feds recognize your marriage but not where you live. >> stephanie: yeah. and some of this stuff. prop 8 lawyer basically concedes gay marriage will lose in the long run. i los

karl rove signaled there could be a major shift in his party's outlook. >> karl rove, could you imagineublican candidate saying i'm for gay marriage? >> i could. >> the supreme court begins arguments on it, the legality and one benefit to endorsing the notion with one strategist te telling politico opening up the idea will open up donors around the country. >>> zuckerberg is forming an issues advocacy organization focusing on comprehensive immigration reform. >>> rand paul doesn't want to legalize drugs but doesn't want them to go to jail either. >> the last two presidents could have conceivably been put in jail for drug use. it would have ruined their lives. it got lucky but a lot of poor kids don't get lucky. >> pending senate bill would give judges greater flexibility to work around mandatory minimum sentences for those crimes. >>> claire mccaskill is throwing her support behind same-sex marriage saying it's the right thing to do. >>> president obama will host a seder dinner. he became the first sitting president to hold seder at the executive mansion back in 2009. >>> oscar de la re

karl? >> i respectfully disagreement. it makes the administration look incompetent.people are not focused on the fact that rand paul is probably the only republican member of the senate who opposes the president's use of drones abroad. a lot of democrats oppose the democrats' use of drones to kill americans without due process. they look at what this controversy was about. which was rand paul sent a letter to john brennan asking the attorney general whether or not the president had power to authorize lethal force like a drone strike against u.s. citizen on u.s. soil without trial. the letter sent on march 4 by the attorney general is full of just completely confusing. were such an emergency to arise, i would pl examine the particular facts. ted cruz says you have a suspected american terrorist, with terrorist ties having coffee in a cafe. can you take him out with a drone? a terrible answer by holder thereby prompting the filibuster. following the fill buster the attorney general on march 7 sends a two-sentence letter saying that you ask this question, the answer to

karl rove's super-p.a.c.reated a whole ad making fun of the president, and the right-wing talkers ate it up. >> he's becoming barack kardashian. that's what's been coming. he is becoming the male kim kardashian with this stuff. he is celebrity of the united states, he is not the president. >> this from a man obsessed with celebrity and the redistribution of wealth. >> someone more interested in hanging out with u2, performing with the roots on jimmy fallon's show. >> republican national k34i9ee chair slammed the president for slow jamming the news on the fallon show, saying it hardly seemed like official business. so i was surprised to hear him say this today. >> go beyond traditional news media in promoting or message, including pop culture news outlets. we have to stop divorcing ourselves from the american culture, and maybe that might mean i could get an invitation with the lady of "the view." >>> so he represent the president for talk shows, and now he wants to go on "the view"? that's not all. he also wa

the founder of americanroads karl rove and democratic strategist joe trippi. you have an editorial in the latest issue of the weekly standard in which you say that rand paul is wrong on natural security as a matter of policy and politics. why, especially is he wrong on a matter of politics? >> because the republican party to the degree it has been a successful party and important party and contributory american well being over the last 50-60 years has been so in large part because it has been the party of strong national security. you can say it is stale and moss covered but some of us are proud to have come to washington to work in a very minor role for ronald reagan and some of us are proud to have supported the bush administration after 9/11 and fighting epimieses and the problem with the obama administration is not that it is too assertive. the problem is that we are retreating all around the world and unfortunately emboldening our enemies. if rand paul wants to run to the left of the obama administration he is tree to ned ahat in the republican minute. ma

i love karl. give karl some money, but we need some other people. >> who you got?ossroads had 1.2% success rate. i don't know. somebody that knows how to win. >> let a thousand flowers bloom. >> let a thousand flowers bloom. karl is at the head of all of these things. i'm just saying, we don't need to have a karl rove monopoly this year. what he did in 2002, pretty damn remarkable and also in 2004. he got 2006 completely wrong. >> he has a what not to do litigation, right? >> maybe so. >> i'll say one thing. the way in which karl got things wrong was a problem within the republican party. most republican polsters, almost all, where exactly where he was thinking that mitt romney was going to win. so that problem is a systemic problem. the party got it wrong across the board. >> you know why? because they lived inside their own media bubble. >> i agree wmt. >> at the end of the day, karl rove lived and breathed inside the media/conservative bubble. >> it's hard to find an alternative. it's hard to find someone either a strategist or polster in the republican party wh

next on the run down sarah palin working over our pal karl rove verbally.hume think about that? later adam carolla strikes back against the huffington post implying is he a racist. jessica controversy growing in colorado. we're coming right back. hey, our salads. [ bop ] [ bop ] [ bop ] you can do that all you want, i don't like v8 juice. [ male announcer ] how about v8 v-fusion. a full serving of vegetables, a full serving of fruit. but what you taste is the fruit. so even you... could've had a v8. but what you taste but that doesn't mean i don't want to make money.stor. i love making money. i try to be smart with my investments. i also try to keep my costs down. what's your plan? ishares. low cost and tax efficient. find out why nine out of ten large professional investors choose ishares for their etfs. ishares by blackrock. call 1-800-ishares for a prospectus which includes investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses. read and consider it carefully before investing. risk includes possible loss of principal. a brand new start. your chance to rise a

here's the straightforward answer from karl rove when george asked him this morning. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next republican candidate saying flatout, i'm for gay marriage? >> i could. >> he quickly moved on to another issue right after that. but, rick, rove's team knew this was making headlines. and they reached out to you before we came on the air tonight? >> that's correct. an important distinction that karl rove wants me to make. he sent me an e-mail, while he could see a republican candidate supporting gay marriage, that's not necessarily saying the nominee will do so. but here's the thing. the politics around gay marriage are changing and changing fast. it's been less than a year since president obama himself dropped his opposition to gay marriage in that interview with our colleague, robin roberts. and now, even some prominent republicans are settling on the same position. >> and, rick, you study these political poll lines. what is the trending telling us right now? >> it is moving so fast. in 2004, during george w. bush's re-election, we asked in a poll if gay marriag

remember, karl rove supported arlen specter as far back as 2004, against pat toomey with the logic thaten it was convenient and became the 60th vote for obamacare and we need to be careful, what it means to be electable and certainly the tea party doesn't bat a thousand but at least we're winning elections, we're bringing new people into the party and we're not in a position where the democrats can jam something through 60 votes in the senate because of the tea party. >> i have to tell you, there is no litmus test. i'm happy to have anybody who labels him or herself as a republican and wants to prep e represent the country. we're not talking about the governor of texas or utah, if we want to be a national party we have to look like america. today, we look like a bunch of guys, white guys, from below the mason-dixon line. >> chris: how do you look more like america. >> you have to talk about issues in the way i have to. for instance, i never read anything in my republican play book and i have been a republican since the day i was born, that says that republicans and trade unionists canno

the republican party, karl rove on down, has a huge problem. we've already talked about it.raphics are moving away from them. not just that the american people have no problem increasingly with same-sex marriage, 58% according to "the washington post" poll, but according to that same poll, 51% of republicans ages 18 to 45 have no problem with same-sex marriage. so the republican party has a problem with people of color, as julian said, the country is getting blacker and browner every year. but they have a problem with their own party. where the future leaders of their party, the future voters in their party are moving away from the party. >> that's right. >> you know -- >> karl rove was, as i think jonathan was hinting at, karl rove was the architect of the referendum in ohio in 2004, which was a bigoted referendum to potentially get republicans to the polls for fear of the gay marriage issue. >> that's right. i have a quick question. julian, i'm going to start with you. as a woman, why is it -- i feel like republicans huff and puff about the need to check your background wh

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anyone is that interested in lunching with karl rove. that all of these movements have, i think the real question that the democrats are starting to face about president obama, the extent to which how much of this is actually centered on obama. how much of this is going to survive him? he's incredibly charismatic and popular. how many of these people are giving to supporting obama. how many people will still be on the list once obama is no longer on the ticket. o.f.a., to build an infrastructure that will survive this presidency made some missteps. i think that like obama when he was running in 2008, big promises on transparency, no lobbyists in the white house, we're going to have all of these disclosures, didn't happen. and now transparency groups are starting to complain. >> they did do some. >> they did a lot more than anyone before it. but that is -- he promised he wouldn't have any of it. >> will martin luther king jr. be the be all and end all. charismatic authority even in a socialological criticism, translated into an institutio