karl marlantes and his book will help immeasurably.arl marlantes, welcome. >> it's nice to be here, thank you. >> i haven't been sure about how to start this interview. i've never been to war. i've never looked a man in the eye, who was trying to kill me, and kill him before he could. i'm not even sure that i can ask a question that doesn't strike you as banal, against your experience. i guess what i'm saying is that there's this divide between the warrior and the rest of us. and that divide can't really be crossed, can it? >> no. but i think that what has to change is this inhibition that we all feel about asking. you know, you come back and there is this code of silence, you know? and both, i call it the civilian and the veteran have it. and it gets in the way. and it's all done out of trying to be kind. but you know, it's like, "well, i don't want to say something that upsets him. or i don't want to --" and the fact of the matter is if someone would genuinely ask, "well, you know, can you talk about it?" i think most guys would be d