but -- karl marx, leon trotsky. a bit eclectic as you can see. salman rushdie. ian mccune. i have pretty much all of what they've written. i like to think that i have a live rather than a job or a career. and it's all to do with reading and writing. the only choosings i was ever good at -- and public speaking of that's how i make my living, but it's also what i am, who i am, what i love, and fortunate for that because there's nothing else for that. it's not as if could have ban lawyer or doctor and chose this. this chose meful this is one of your more recent books, god is not great, how religion poisons everything. when you look through your body of work, the 18 books you have written, religion or atheism kind of permeates. >> yes. there was the -- my check on mother teresa, me review of her, misspent life. in a way thomas jefferson is a lot to do with the origins of our first amendment and the virginia statute of on religious freedom, and another recent little book of mine about thomas paine and his rights of man, has to discourse on his other great work, the age of reason