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i know, you know, karl rove knows that personal ambition is what fuels politics.don't go out and pick candidates for office, they pick themselves. that's the way it was in high school, in college, wherever there's been an election in our lives, the ambitious come forward, put their names on the ballot and campaign for the job. we don't pick our candidates, they pick themselves. our job is to choose among those who have decided to put themselves out there. the question people should be asking right now is not whether hillary clinton is ambitious, but is she ambitious enough to fight another grueling, two-year campaign for president? politics is based on people having ambition for high office. lincoln, the roosevelts, kennedy, the reagan all had personal ambition, so did the great body of the u.s. congress. and for that and for most part it didn't start evidencing itself when their names began showing up in the newspapers, it began way back in student and in kmus politics. mitch mcconnell put it best the morning following the 2014 election. he said, i have a caucus

fox news contributor, karl rove. you looked at the 15 battleground states. clinton versus a generic republican. it's not pretty for her. >> no it's not. this is a poll from american crossroads gps a group i'm associated with, 43% clinton, 44 for a generic republican. she's as chairman previs said, 95% of the people say they know her well, it's hard to get a second interest douks of your first introduction or a third introduction as the case may be 49% favorable, 44% unfavorable. the more they learn about her, however, the less nice they're going to feel about her, read a list of positive and negative accomplishments, it turns to 44 44-51. she goes upside down. you and the chairman were right, 60% in the polls said she'll say or do anything to get elected. 49% say she doesn't share their values, that's a very low number for a democrat, 48% said she won't make america stronger. that's the interesting one people want change. and 71% of americans in these battle grounds states believe she's going to continue president obama's policies. these are states that lead

does karl rove have a point?> what is interesting also, we played that out, we have president's comments live on "outnumbered" yesterday. it wasn't just the police. he was also pointing finger at media. he was saying how peaceful up until a certain point when others fell down on their responsibilities. he did use the word thug, one time. he did talk about the criminality. what i hear karl rove and others saying you know what? where is the indignation in all this? where is the point you say this is not about black or white or brown? this is about, this being america. that is not protesting. he said the words but i think like we have been for six 1/2 years, now waiting for this president to come with his heart, passion behind the words. the words are there. after the bp oil spill. the words were there. where is the pounding of fist? you have to get upset at some point. not to mention he is the first black president. he has something to say. >> hashtag, adam, all lives should matter. >> right. >> you see president g

this is karl rove [peeping on me. this is condi.as his own people. -- pete whole. -- peep hole. and this is the vice president of the united states looking through a peephole. and dick, i hope you're not doing what it looks like you are doing. [laughter] president bush: i have to say i am surprised that we do not have any other presidential candidates tonight. senator mccain is not here. he probably wanted to distance himself from me a little bit. [laughter] president bush: he is not alone. jenna is moving out, too. [laughter] the democratic candidates are not here either. senator clinton could not make it because of the sniper fire and senator obama is in church. [laughter] [applause] president bush: i am sure whoever the next president is will show up at these dinners. especially like the dinners in 2005 and 2006 when we had a couple of surprises up our sleeves. the city slicker asked the old guy how to get to the town-- >> not that old joke. not again. ladies and gentlemen i have been attending these dinners for years. and just q

us now to discuss the fun and new hillary republican strategist advisor to president george bush, karl rove i sense your excitement. at the fun and new that is being experienced by the former secretary of state. >> yeah it would seem to me to be old, tired and weird. she did this thing in 1999. when she ran for the u.s. senate in new york she got in a van and drove through upstate new york. at least then she got out and had connection with people. this is a woman who i thought the reporter got it right, a stealth tour. this thing has lacked excitement and substance. it serves to me as a metaphor for the entire clinton campaign so far. that photograph -- monday's photograph was a grainy photograph off of a surveillance system at chipotle outside of toledo, ohio. abden and hillary clinton in dark glasses looks like they were on the lamb and fleeing law enforcement. you know, we've issued arrest warrants for failed foreign policy on hillary clinton and abdean. detain and arrest when you see them. it was weird. today she goes to a coffee shop and then goes to a garage that's connected to a comm

now for the top story tonight reaction, joining us from austin texas, fox news analyst karl rove. ng mr. rove. >> now hit a point. the hillary clinton's narrative is going to be america is unfair and the source unfairness is to be found in our economic system and in our social outlook. and the republican candidate has to behoever he or she is to go straight into the fight and make the argument that the best way to assure rise incomes for everyone, opportunity for everyone, and a better, more prosperous more peaceful society is to rely more on the great strength of the american people and our marketplace, and our great private institutions rather than relying upon government. to the extent that we have had inequality rise in the last six or seven years is because the works on behalf of the politically connected and lobbyists loophole in the law incomes have dropped because of failed economic policies which have led us to have the first recovery in the history of america in which the median household income dropped. >> okay, now, -- >> -- and the republican candidate has to make thes

karl rove goes "on the record" as our live coverage of this breaking news in baltimore continues. we will take you back to baltimore as the city braces for the possibility of more violence. the curfew starts at 10:00 tonight. they say after seeing a magician make his assistant disappear mr.clean came up with a product that makes dirt virtually disappear. he called it the magic eraser. it cleans like magic. even baked on dirt disappears right before your eyes. mr.clean's magic eraser. >>> will the's go back to baltimore. marena you were there last night. compare and contrast with right now. >> all right greta. we are actually standing at the epicenter. about a block where we are stand something that cvs that burned down. now you can see all the police officers, baltimore police here in full tactical gear. this is virtually a standoff between citizens and officers. they are awaiting anyone that comes up to them expresses their grievances, their frustrations. a lot of them coming with pretty bad words pretty harsh words right at them. now, the big time is coming here and two and a ha

with us now karl rove.to the poll, do you think that there has to be investigation into this? >> yeah, absolutely. you were talking about the justice department. i'm standing with ed henry on this last six years even attorney general shouldn't count on them looking into it one who can look into it state general at the state department. also announced he is looking into did she violate rules on the emails and what was the story behind uma abidine getting special emilyee status which is sprord. >> that is small ball compared. >> if you have an inspector general come out with adverse finding on all of this this will prompt, it will require the justice department for the u.s. attorney. >> how long will that take? >> it depends, i don't know. >> that's a situation. but i think it's a huge scandal if the fbi doesn't launch criminal investigation. >> i still do not understand how the secretary of state -- she clearly did not ask the state department can i have a private server and conduct all my private business a

even karl rove has said -- >> oh my god. >> even karl rove has said the republicans can't win if attack the hillary is the only thing they do. even he recognizes you have to do something different. in talking to my friends and sources in new hampshire which i've been doing today. even they were cinching at a lot of this stuff. a lot of them were undecided. this is what they do right now. >> here he is yet on "meet the press." warning that the republican assault on hillary clinton was only playing into her and her plans. let's watch. >> when voters want is someone who will lay out an agenda of how you move the country forward. you showed the republican candidates showing all their time attack hillary. that's great. let them do it. from my perspective every second they don't talk about how to move this great nation forward is great for hillary clinton. >> he is not only the best saleman in the world. he is so smart about this. who will make you president of the united states? >> and he knows a lot about position ask is exhibiting it as govern. and i think he is right. i think she has to b

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. >> i spoke to karl rove last night and i said to mr.e if the republican nominee for president wants to win he or she better start sticking up for people of faith. >> you're absolutely right. >> because, if they don't, then it's going to be the same old wishy washy, don't have the backbone to defend us. >> yes. and man of steel jeb bush back down. >> i don't want to. >> look they all have. governor of arkansas. >> governor bush sitting where you are sitting soon and we will see if he is going to back down or not. >> he did. >> but 80% of americans describe themselves as christian. 80% overwhelming. >> right. >> all right? however the 80% are getting thumped. >> yes. >> they are losing. >> yes. book. >> i what, 5% 8%? how did that happen? >> because these small town owners of pizza have more courage christian leaders and certainly the republican party. i mean, if the one thing a few days before easter it's worth mentioning besides eternal life with your creator the one thing every christian should have is courage. the most important thing

people say, there's nothing wrong with all this money, sometimes, it works out and, sometimes, with karl rove, he had a lot of money, and it didn't work out. so therefore we should say fine, throw oir "hands up," as long as we can track where it comes from. >>> yeah, i enme, listen, you can't win every election, and, rove did raise a ton of money, and, i think that people, they are going to get tired is the deliberate iation of when somebody is is running, what a super pack is, and just give person. jon cooper, in new york, well, bundling is old, if you can give all this money, to a super pack, who needs bunkers. and one person can come in and write a check to a super pack. >>> that's where the problem is going to come. >>> and those are two different entities but they, they enjoy fact, because they know that they have greater access to that money. and that's what makes hillary clinton, formidable to them. >>> thank you. >>> up next, how inmates at the prison are hacking their way out of prison. >>> even at that age, 56, that as long as i know how to do it i'll be employable. >>> it's a high-

. >> karl rove joins us. karl, i could have seen a stronger defense than that. i'm glad he is not my defense attorney if i god picked up for something. it's not just the "the washington post." the "new york times." , "new york times" and "the washington post," too. >> look, the author of this book, peter sweitzer is a very meticulous, detail or yented person. he has a good reputation as a ton shut researcher and a careful writer and my suspicion is that when this book is fully revealed on may at&t. this going to cause a the love indid indigestion. >> i'm a little cautious because i haven't seen the book. the people put out the books always put out the most salacious things ever and take it like red meat base. everybody ceases upon it. even if they are even 20% accurate there is a problem here. >> look. the question is going to be this: was there a pattern of the clintons receiving money eaves at the clinton foundation or in their own personal pocketbook in a time frame that causes you to look at official actions being done meetings being taken decisions being ma

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karl rove will talk about that next.the sale of a canadian mining company to the russians that gave the russians massive control over uranium. the donations that tlelhen followed. you'll get a sneak peek at the clinton cash story. i am totally blind. and sometimes i struggle to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit your24info.com. >>> the race for 2016 heating up. look at the new poll. marco rubio taking the lead. and he is at the top of that poll but just by two points. >> the first term u.s. senator from florida, now neck and neck with a democratic candidate, hillary clinton, when you go head to head. what does this mean for the race to the white house? let's talk to former deputy chief of staff fox news contributor karl rove. >> good morning. >> what does that poll mean to you? >> that means everybody gets a bump. go out there and announce you get a bump. go out there and give a speech that surprises people you get a bump. the question is how

and that's a group of karl rove karen hughes, and all these people-- gersen-- and their job is to sellamerican people because they're not buying it. >> can i just talk about aluminum tubes? >> jon: please. >> because there was something we knew that was new, that was really spinning up the intelligence community. we didn't know what it was. >> jon: so you report that they've got these tubes. this albright guy never calls you back. >> no. >> jon: so you run with it. now, there's a phrase in your story on the 8th where-- an unnamed source says "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." >> right. >> jon: right. that phrase, do you know where phrase comes from? >> no, because i only know that condi rice repeated it. >> jon: right it comes from the white house iraq group-- >> well, she's a member of. >> jon: five days before you write the article. >> but it's a very powerful line. and it explains their thinking. >> jon: right, but it comes from gersen. it's a political line directly tied to the white house. you said the information doesn't come from them. >> jon were we not sup

karl rove chief of staff to george bush and fox news contributor. democratsoused reconciliation to pass the affordable care act. and what about the republicans using it to repeal obama care. >> if they do use reconciliation to repeal it president obama will veto it. there is some who say let's not waste the time. they want to put everybody on the record knowing that president obama will veto. it the question is how much time will be eaten up with that maneuver. we are getting to a point where time is important. republicans are more likely going to run with a positive alternative as well. and it takes time to work through. that in the end of the day, republicans promised to repeal it and my suspension there will be an effort do do that. >> what do you advise? >> get it done with. they have to wait until the house and senate budget negotiators meeting in conference arrive in the final set of numbers. this was last done in 2010 to allow for the passage of the affordable care act. the republicans will be in the majority since before 2010. and they will

karl rove and former senior advisor to former president bush and a fox news contributor.ou saw the opening line, piece on this. in all of the other newspapers, they like to pile it on the republican candidates and here it is. three months in what allies confidently a shock and a we drive. jeb bush's early campaigning looks like the juggernaut that wasn't. >> what do you think of that? carl? >> it is premature. one thing about your opening statement. it will be a contest. and it is the most wide open presidential sweeb stakes and no one is in front. one week it locks like scott walker and another week jeb bush. and then next week mike huckabee. and we will end the week of cruz. and then rand paul and mark rubio. and governor bush is by no stretch of the imagination the inevitable nominee even if the new york times declares him so. >> we'll look at poll numbers based on fox news polling. jeb bush is in the lead at least against a hypothetical election. if it was held today. jeb bush ties hillary clinton at 45 percent. and rand paul and is 47- friechlt and ted krudz. 48- 42.

karl rove had an interesting column in the wall street. when he said the big problem is not her manner, does she have a rationale or purpose to run for president other than the fact that it is her turn and she is entitled to it. and how will she communicate that. i am not sure other than that she is the favorite for it and lost to bill clinton last time. and maybe the woman thing. but in terms of what she will do for us the american people. why is she running and what is the cause that is driving her. it is hard pressed to say what it is. >> senator cha ffe is looking for making a run for the democratic nomination, is that a signal perhaps that some democrats think she can be beaten and vulnerable. >> with all respect with lincoln cha ffe. i am not sure he will do it or martin o'malley or the others. they seem to be long shots if they run against her. you take more serious vice-president biden or elizabeth warren. but at this moment, it doesn't appear that either will run. she may have token opposition but no one to make her struggle and r

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raising the money, remember karl rove in citizen's united, it was his great idea to make all this moneycorporations are people, and they can dump money into these political coffers. that's what we have. >> people are saying, listen, the foundation in particular took money from dictators. took money from countries that had zero rights. she'll run on the platform of elect me because i'm a woman. >> that's something we can argue about. >> she took the money? >> no. she took the money. but she's working to change issues in these countries where women have no rights whatsoever. >> oh, that's not the case. if she wants exact change, she'll end up throwing out a red herring. someone who has been effective on her ticket, like cory or castro out of san antonio, that's how she will do it. she'll try to get the attention off her path. >> thirty years she's been on the national stage. not ap a single thing she can do to alter her image. those are polarizing numbers. more and more people distrust her. >> the email thing won't go away any time soon. she has to meet the press sooner or later. >> whoev

tonight we'll analyze it with karl rove and mike huckabee. >> i. >> i think very helpful and encouraging issues.

>>> in the september before the 2012 election, karl rove's super pac released this damning ad. >> a president who skips half of his intelligence briefings, but finds time to play more than 100 rounds of golf. >> no. half of his intelligence briefings? before it appeared in that attack ad, the same thing appeared in the op-ed of "the washington post." it was not long before it made its way to the whole universe. the president playing hookie, the president doesn't do hi daily intelligence briefings, he plays golf instead, and then just as your crazy great uncle was e-mails about it with the caps lock key on it and posting all about it. "the washington post" fact-checked their own piece on this matter and ended up setting the record straight. it turns out president obama did not miss more than half his intelligence briefings. he does get the daily briefings every day, every single day. the scandal is that sometimes he reads them. i know, reading, very suspicious in a leader. >>> it turns south that breathless, but not exactly factual bit of reporting with all the that political purchase which "t

. >> and karl rove joins us. nice to see you karl. karl, for a moment hypothetically being the campaign manager for senator rand paul, what's his strategic path to getting this nomination? >> well he has got to find a way to win one of the early contests. iowa is dominated by social conservatives. though his father had a good organization there. i think his best shot would be new hampshire, which is an open primary. independents can vote in either the republican or democratic primary. there is a chance for him to bring sort of the isolationist, you know pro-peace, pro-dope progressive independence into the republican primary to vote for him by emphasizing his libertarian principles and his libertarian outlook. >> how does that compare then to senator ted cruz who is also the only other announced candidate at this point? >> well it's interesting. both of them did come out of the 2010 tea party year. but one of them has chosen to emphasize the libertarian aspect. the other has chosen in his announcement, senator cruz to emphasize the so

karl rove joins us. good evening, karl. >> good evening, how are you? >> good. the fact that we have three u.s. senators who are are first termers running for president seems to me is going to be a risk for them that this campaign may be more prove it because we have had a one term senator and a lot of people unhappy with him. do you agree with me this is a prove it? don't just give me fancy talk? >> look. that's one of the challenges that first term senators face. you are right to put your finger on it each bring strengths to it we saw today in marco rubio's announcement his personal story. we will see in the weeks ahead that he is carefully prepared himself over the last several years for this moment. given in 2013 and 2014 a series of seven speeches. mostly on domestic policy that clearly show he has been thinking deeply about these issues. trying to figure out what he would do if he were in a place to do something about it understanding and grasping the essence of these issues and facts and figures and ups and downs ands and outs. is he going to show himself

karl rove said that when hillary and i think it was huma that was with her, they were both wearing shades in chipotle. they looked like fugitives on the lam wanted in four states for a failed foreign policy. i thought that was a good line that i had to steal. i remain bullish on the bush and walker i do admire christie for raising social security but it's like mondale declaring that reagan says he won't raise your taxes and i will and it's a fatal piece of honesty. i understand it's his appeal and perhaps with a long shot it will work and a way to distinguish himself but i would have to say that half of the republican field will attack him on that because it's not a popular move. i have $5 still on cruise and i am now -- i have fallen off the wagon. i'm no longer contributing to my retirement fund. it has a more lasting effect. >> i wanted to play this sound bite before we left the republican casino and this is jeb bush being questioned by audience member in new hampshire today. >> i don't want a coronation on our side by any stretch of the imagination. >> i don't see any coronation comin

even karl rove says cruz is off base.n a piece today, rove points out the conservative share of the 2012 elect rate was highest since 1976. republicans concerned about voters who failed this should look elsewhere. there you have two guys that want to win more than anything else. they think if you go to the hard right and do all these cultural war stuff, you'll lose the general. they're worried because their guy, jeb bush, is not looking too good in the polls. >> they don't want to win. and democrats actually are worried about whether or not hillary clinton can excite enough depressed democrats after obama and replicate the obama coalition and get over -- over the finishing line. >> look -- >> romney lost by 333,000 votes. >> what does that even mean? are those the ones that float? are those the ones that sink? >> are you talking about witchcraft trials? >> it's a false premise in some ways. >> i think if you're the hard right candidate, you need to vote for the hard right candidate to win. you're pitching yourself. >> if

jackie kucinich and karl rove and brit, what do you make of clinton's first week as a formal candidate. >> she's at a state in her political life that she is who she is that doesn't mean that she couldn't have the common touch. she could but i don't think she does. her husband had it fdr who was certainly a rich guy and blue blood and all that but hillary doesn't. i don't think it will go very far, has no real pressure for the democratic nomination and she's trying to present herself in a more favorable light than in iowa eight years ago and perhaps she'll succeed in that. but at the end of the day she is who she is. >> jackie, what struck you about clinton's rollout and i want to pick up on a question i was going back and forth with with bernie sanders about is she going to have trouble campaigning as a champion of the middle class, going up against big money when she and her husband have such a long history with $300,000 speeches and million dollar contributions multimillion dollar contributions from foreign governments to the foundation. >> i think it is a hard move for her to pull.

our sunday group, britt hum and julie pace who covers the white house for the associated press and karl rove and ron fornier. a long detailed money trail is laid out where bill clinton gets millions of dollars through speaking fees and clinton foundation gets donations from foreign entities but very careful and did it again today to say he doesn't have a smoking gun that shows there was a quid proquo. based on all of that how troubling do you think the reporting that he lays out is? >> the smoking gun requirement would be would you would be looking for if you were trying to prove a bribe, an outright bribe, but the standard is even an appearance of a conflict of interest he's got all of that. everything that richard lugar described in that sound byte you showed earlier has now to could pass. the speaking fees that as you pointed out so well skyrocketed after hillary clinton took office i'm talking about for bill clinton, these donations to the foundation from these foreign governments and many of them unsavory characters at the head of them this all smells. can you prove these were bribes? n

tonight we'll analyze it with karl rove and mike huckabee. >> i. >> i think very helpful and encouragingurrence. pam anderson and joe arpaio teaming up on a bunch of issues.

joining us from austin texas, karl rove. and you say?well look let's first of all put this in perspective. what is it exactly we are talking about? this religious freedom law says three things. it says if you are an individual who believes that your religious liberty is being trampled upon, you have to show that you are quote substantially burdened. this is actually what the supreme court used in the hobby lobby case was the standard of substantially burdened. and if you are the government it requires two things. it says you have to show that there is a compelling interest in affecting whatever action is necessary and that you have used the least restrictive means in order to do this. this is what was embodied in the law signed by president clinton and on the statute of 19 or 20 states. >> just tell the folks the hobby lobby thing and how it came out just briefly. >> well, the hobby lobby said hobby lobby was a privately held company and the owners were being forced to violate their religious liberty by providing contraception that they

our panel, brit hume, jurylie pace karl rove and ron fournier. he lays out a long detailed money trail where bill clinton gets millions of dollars in speaking fee the clinton foundation gets millions in donations from foreign entities that have interest in state department. he doesn't have a smoking gun to say there's quid pro quo. based on that how troubling do you think the report is? >> the smoking gun requirement would be what you're looking for if you're trying to prove a bribe. an outright bribe. but if the standard is even the appearance of a conflict of interest, he's got all of that. i mean, everything that richard lugar described in that sound bite you showed earlier, has now come to pass. the speaking fees that, as you pointed out so well, skyrocketed after hillary clinton took office, i'm talking about for bill clinton these donations to the foundation from these foreign governments many of them unsavory characters at the head of them, this all smells. now, can you prove that these were bribes? no. but can anybody reasonably infer the

>> well behind that ad are some bush operatives jeb bush operatives george bush operatives, karl rove operatives. they're using super pacs to protect themselves while they trash these new faces, these conservatives who are trying to break through. and this is the point. we conservatives, we constitutionalists will never have an opportunity to defeat the democrats unless we bust through muscle through the republican establishment that despises us. people need to remember particularly young people out there, they tried to stop reagan. the bush family tried to stop reagan, the republican establishment tried to stop reagan. there would have been no reagan had they succeeded. and we talk about the next reagan. look, it doesn't matter if we have a next reagan. the next fresh-faced conservative who will connect with the american people, but we're not going to have that chance as long as we keep getting these long-in-the-tooth dug-in republicans these corporatists who really are perfectly happy with big government as long as they're running it. >> yeah. let me ask you and dovetail here into t