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paul: karl rove, thank you very much for coming in.estors set their sight on statutes, memorials and national monuments, president trump promises punishment from the vandals but will the left also pay a price at the polls in november? >> our founding fathers are being roped to the ground like being roped to the ground like they were we're here for a reason. and it's bigger than selling cars. we're here to build for the people who build and shape this country. who work hard. who do right by others. who never give in. there's always some new challenge trying to take us out. to shake our resolve. and if you're out there fighting through it, we know 260,000 people who have your back. ♪ ♪ >> they are tearing down statutes, desecrating monuments and purging and it's not the behavior of a peaceful political movement. it's the behavior of totalitarians and tyrants. paul: president trump condemning protestors targeting statutes and memorial across the country. the president calling on law enforcement to protect national monuments and threatenin

want to bring in karl rove.ernoon to you today in austin, texas, a couple things to bring to mind here. role the video from the guys last night. the president and the cabinet members that worked for him crossing the street from the white house over to st. john's church. bear in mind now, this was on fire the day before that. the day before that you had a number of protesters outside the white house setting fires in the alley and also tearing into an apple store, whatever they could find near the white house. roll the video. thank you very much. okay. here's where we go. karl, you can see bill barr, robert o'brien. a lot of criticism of this trip. here's part of that. hillary clinton tonight the president of the united states used the american military to shoot peaceful protests with rubber bullets and tear gas them for pa photo open. this is a horrifying use of presidential power against your own citizens has no place let alone in america. vote. you thought about this today sir? what do you come to mind? >> well

if you lose your history -- >> martha: karl rove joins me right now.use chief deputy of staff. and fox news contributor. i am reminding myself of all the discussion of pay attention to the scientist. let the scientists lead the way. now i do agree with this woman that it is time to listen to the historians for a moment and whether you like or dislike the history is completely up to you. but just know it to begin with. and that kid had nothing to say. he had no good answer to that woman, karl. >> she was a feisty new yorker. i will want her in my corner any time. we have two things going on here. one is a systematic effort to erase history by requiring people from the past to live up to our standards of today. and if that's what we are going to do, nobody is going to rema remain. mahatma gandhi made racist comments about south african blacks when he lived in south africa. should we erase him from history? robert kennedy and john f. kennedy, president and united states allow the wiretapping of martin luther king and they knew those wiretaps were -- none

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karl rove, the architect. when we come back, lawlessness continues to grip seattle.d police dismantle an autonomous zone outside the mayor's house. you mean you can do it successfully? may be jay inslee, may be the mayor of seattle should learn a lesson or two. that's next. ♪ bottom line is, moms love that land o' frost premium sliced meats have no by-products. [conference phone] baloney! [conference phone] has joined the call. hey baloney here. i thought this was a no by-products call? land o' frost premium. a slice above. ♪ >> sean: welcome back to hannity amid the growing lawlessness in american cities, the left continues to demoralize all cops. portland mayor ted wheeler says that he wants to overhaul the police, the same police who decided playtime is over with the protesters and the mob came near the mayor's residence. in the free love zone, anarchy zone, autonomous zone, one resident reportedly could not get the police to respond to an emergency call over a suspected burglary and or send calling 91119 times. c by the way, an update on our last segment with kar

engineers all that for nixon you know who's in the white house right now engineering trump karl rove right and you know there's obviously pearlstein is is phenomenal with that analysis but you also do have to wonder today you know when when nixon got elected because he was running as the law and order guy return to normalcy guy biden has now been the return to normalcy and that's what the whole establishment the democratic party's been let's get back to to normal see and a lot of people said yeah ok that i guess that just means a president that doesn't tweet so will they look at that now and say oh does that mean we didn't have a pandemic when we didn't have you know these these massive protests happening so is it going to turn against the incumbent because after all whatever happens when you're the president kind of falls on you so is the public going to blame trump for this or is he going to get things under control if the military is released here in the united states that could be a whole different ball game and we've seen it before we saw it happen in the early ninety's when geo

thank you so much, good to see my friend, let me bring back karl rove. rl as you have watch this play out, the president walked into the white house moments ago and this is a very striking moment. reflect on that for me. >> it really is. i'm not certain the take back is what we are talking about. i think the president seeks to restore a sense of calm and peace and we are in the midst of a great crisis, several great crisis and melted death of george floyd. in a moment where we need to be reflecting on what we do as a nation to ensure justice for all, we are being driven apart by father fisher said by a group of people who don't represent and people have a right to protest. and the idea of peacefully protesting the death of george floyd is something that many americans can agree with. about what we should all disagree with is those exploiting the moment to loot, burn and to rob as the president talked about on saturday. , and seek ways to bring the country together in this moment of grief and sorrow about where we are as a country. >> the president said am

did i freak out and walk out of the building when fox hired a karl rove.ted that we hurled karl rove, and i felt that way when they put you on "the five." i was like what are we doing? anyway, katie. he makes a good point though. are we in a generation of writers and editors who don't understand the first amendment? >> katie: most people that come out of college these days think that words are actually violent and there's a big difference between leftist and liberals. and these people who want to pull free speech because i feel uncomfortable are leftist, they are not open minded liberals. >> greg: i want to ask a question but at the same time i want to withdraw the question because i would disagree with your opinion. >> juan: okay, all right, what's the question? >> greg: i'm kidding. >> juan: well you know obviously, and as a result, we won't see the military on our streets. i think sometimes people, even those who work with black people don't understand what it's like to be black in america. in a way i don't think white parents have to worry and, i wish

let's bring in karl rove. former white house deputy chief of staff. the polls.ple are talking about them today. they are snapshots in time. this is what it looks like right now. joe biden in the lead in many states, all of the states. some by double digits. these important battleground states. probably not a trend line the trump team wants to see, but not all is bad. if you look at what people care about on the economy, he still beats joe biden on that score at 56%. what do you make of all of this? >> well, you are right. not a happy day inside the trump campaign. a happy day beside the biden campaign but both sides should be very, very careful. in may of 1998, george herbert walker bush trailed dukakis by 19 points and on election day beat him by 7.8. a 27 point swing between may and november. in august of 1948, barely 90 days before the election, less than 90 days. harry truman trailed by 9 points and then had a 13.5 point swing. before the biden campaign picks out their west wing offices and before the trump campaign throws in the towel, we have a big, long c

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so he knew that scooter libby had probably leaked her name, he knew that karl rove had probably leakedand scooter libby. and so he got them to deny talking to reporters. karl rove had a good lawyer and retracted it, but anyway he lied about not talking to reporters and got convicted. elizabeth: so he nails people on process crimes. final word. >> that's exactly what he does. he tricks people as he did with michael flynn, george papadopoulos, the whole shooting match. elizabeth: all right. john, i'm sorry we ran out of time. will you come back on? it's good to see you. thanks for coming in. >> thanks, liz. see you, now. elizabeth: okay, we'll have you back on. next up, a big story we've been covering, did the obama administration have another reason to go after the incoming trump team? was it because then-candidate trump promised to get rid of obama's legacy-making iran nuclear deal? we'll bring on charles hurt, that's ahead. ♪ ♪ ♪ elizabeth: welcome back to a story we have been covering, it's this question: did the obama administration are another motive to go after the incoming trump

let's bring in karl rove. carl, i want to start with the latest fox news poll taken between may 30th and june 2nd. it shows joe biden ahead of president trump 46-42 in arizona. those are numbers that the president's campaign can't turn around, but they certainly have to be worrisome at this point. >> the real clear politics average shows them down, so there is confirming data there. 133 days, but it does show the president has an uphill climb. you have two or three problems. one problem is that he has a problem with suburban college educated women. he also has an issue among latinos. in this state uniquely he has a problem with mormons spirit a large number of latter-day saints in the state as there are in the joining state of utah and this has beena republican oriented group to the electorate, but they have a little trouble with how the president handles himself. just as he ran less than the average republican and utah, he faces that same problem in arizona. some work to do. they're obviously focused on it to

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let's bring in wall street journalist columnist karl rove, senior adviser for president george w. karl. seems to have taken the races have taken a turn with economic fallout from the pandemic and now the racial protests. is that what you see going on? karl: yeah, i think so. i'm glad that you qualified it because it's been 5 or 6 weeks and maybe a little bit longer. if you look at real clear politics average, it's 8.8, 5 or 6 weeks ago the gap between biden and trump was about just over 5 points, so the margin has grown for biden in the recent period of time. recent polls making up the average range from 7% lead for biden to a 14% lead. now, trump is in trouble. he's behind and there needs to be a widespread recognition of that in order to turn it around. i mean, think about this, the last poll in which the two men were tied was april 29th, that's 30 polls ago, the last time that president trump was ahead in a national poll was on the 18th of february when he led in an emerson poll by 2. that's 65 polls ago. so the president is behind and the white house has got plenty of time to

karl rove said that's nonsense. he knows there's onen't at a time. he's not trying to undermine president trump. so yes, it's combustible in this environment. this president, president trump, has to find a way as i mentioned a moment ago to bring the country together, at least try. in fairness to him, people have to give him a chance to do that and not just -- he wants to go to a church that was burned and demonstrate faith but also demonstrate strength and everybody in the world seems to want to throw stones and say it was the worst thing that they ever saw. let's put this in perspective. the church was on fire. small businesses have been destroyed. the country has been torn apart in some ways. the -- this president has a responsibility as i say to unify and not just throw stones themselves on twitter or somewhere else. but give the man a chance. when given that chance, he needs to rise to the occasion. >> dana: ed henry, thank you and stay safe getting home tonight. fox news alert now. we're getting breaking news on the charges against the officers

karl rove joins us right now.t-selling author, former white house deputy chief of staff. there does seem to be a growing concern coming out of the white house and the administration about these polls. some of the president used the like, others like our own that i geguess he never liked. what do you make of it? >> the trends recently are not his friend. real clear politics is 8.8 points for a biden lead, almost nine points. about six weeks ago was about 5. there's been movement over the last month and a half in the direction of joe biden. this latest real clear politics average, the polls that go into it showed biden in the lead of between 7 and 14 points. the last time the president was tyler poll was a poll became out at the end of april. that's 30 polls ago. last time he led was in the 18tp by two trenton and emerson poll. that was 65 polls ago. the president is behind. we are 137, 138 days to go. plenty of time to reverse it but you can't solve a problem until you knowledge a problem and the president's positi

at one time karl rove said, let bush be bush.h's instincts of what got him elected for two terms, let him decide which way he will go. katty: is at the same advice you would give to donald trump? raion: i cey when it -- would not. charles from the washington post had an interesting column that 'said, th's a lack of decency and a lack of input the cing from the white house. americans are looking for the president to feel their pain, as president bill clinton so famously said when he was president. he seems more interested in his own reelection, what he's tweeting and what he is saying. what is he doing to assuage the needs of americans who feel verd sced about tection of the country, whether children fall, and whether we will get beyond the pandemic. a ttle empathy and sympathy will go a long way. katty: there is one group of people in america that tend to decide elections, that's women. when you look at what's happening in that demographic degrees and without, his numbers are declining. what could he specifically do to try to imp

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karl rove warned on friday trump's re-election campaign will neat a significant reboot and significant it. the president is behind today. all the national polls suggest that he's behind. real clear politics average close to 9 points. six weeks ago it was 5. these things happen in campaigns. the question is not where are the polls today, but what does the president need to do in order to regain the advantage. >> all right. joining me once again, white house and washington reporter daniel lippman. he essentially is saying the president has a major uphill battle here, and the hearing talks possibly from fox business that the president may feasibly drop out if his poll numbers continue to slip. what type of reaction are we hearing in washington from trump's recent fade in the polls? >> i don't think it's likely that he would drop out since he is a fighter. he would not want to go down without swinging basically. but republicans in washington, they fear the worst. they look at the poll numbers. i was talking to a trump campaign official a few days ago and asked that person how the campaign

when we come back the great one mark levin, has a lot to say about general flynn, karl rove explains how the lawlessness is plaguing liberal cities as we continue from the swamp in d.c. tonight. >> sean: as we reported earlier tonight, that was the author of the number one "new york times" best seller, also about a host of the number one show, 8:00 p.m. sunday night, right here on the fox news channel, national syndicated radio host and for a good read called the great one, mark levin. you know, mark, we talk about the constitution. you've written books that i think are the best written on that topic. we talk about the rule of law, that constitution is the rule of law, you see this abuse of power, you see what they are still doing to general flynn and others, i want to know your thoughts. >> my thought is that the obama administration was a mobster operation. the way they use to the fbi and the intelligence agencies goes all the way up to the oval office, i've been telling everybody that from day one, no way the president of the united states doesn't know what is consiglio's are doin

newt gingrich will be here and karl rove, i'm always excited to talk with him. there's a flat-out war on history today. we'll talk about the taking down of a statue of teddy roosevelt. plus, a cleveland cup cake shop owner hid with her staff as her store was ransacked during the riots. now she's facing threats after helping police with their looting investigation. how could she, i say sarcastically. all that coming your way, all these notes, via lot to say. i can't wait to see what steve and ainsley like are in person. they seem really nice. we're back in a moment. and by the way, we are dressed. rob: brian even wore pants today because he had to come to the office. >> it's the first time in a long time. i am wearing briefs. jillian: no comment. we'll be right back. (music) it's pretty inspiring the way families redefined the word 'school' this year. it's why, at xfinity, we're committed to helping kids keep learning through the summer. and help college students studying at home stay connected through our university program. we're providing affordable internet a

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gop strategist karl rove, former democratic congresswoman jane harman and jonathan swan from axi, so.ick up on something that i was discussing with hud secretary ben carson and that is what seems to be a pretty significant cultural shift in the country. you have the nfl flipping on the issue whether or not to count as kneeling during the playing of the national anthem. you have the senate, the republican-led armed services committee voting to rename a number of military bases across the country that were named after confederate generals. you also have the president's poll numbers dropping precipitously. the question is does he run the risk of seeming out of touch with the shift going on in the country right now? karl: i think both presidential candidates run the risk which is a moment where politics is not called for, called national unity is called for. there's an interesting poll last week, 73% of americans support the peaceful protests an demonstrations, at the same time 79% believe that looting and vandalism undermine the original protest and the case for justice, so there really

he said i've been doing this for 30 years and i've never seen public opinion move so quickly, karl rove. there is a clear line of delineation that the spring of 2020 represents, and they recognize that regardless of what the president is saying or doing that they need to address this issue in order to be competitive and move through the door within these communities. >> and the question is whether the president can play a role that is constructive. i want to play two excerpts from the president and one just this week to fox news about abe lincoln. take a listen. >> i think i've done more for the black community than any other president and let's take a pass on abraham lincoln because he did good, although it's always questionable. in other words, the end result -- >> we are free, mr. president. >> you understand what i mean. i'm going to take a pass on abe, honest abe, as we call him. >> before you respond, i want to also play -- one of the challenges for this president is that this has been a long history of having one view about race. listen to this quote from 1989. >> a well-educated

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karl rove spoke to it as well.e said i've been doing this for 30 years and i've never seen public opinion so quickly, and there is a clear line of delineation that the spring of 2020, and they recognize that regardless of what the president is doing that they need to address this issue in order to be competitive and move through the door with these communities. >> the question is whether he can play a role and two excerpts from the president, one just this week to fox news about abe lincoln. take a listen. >> i think i've done more for the black community than any other president, and let's take a pass on abraham lincoln because he did good, although, it's always questionable. in other words, the end result -- >> we are free, mr. president. i think he did pretty good. >> you understand what i mean. i'm going to take a pass on abe, honest abe, as we call him. >> before you respond, i want to play one of the challenges for this president is that this has been a long history of having one view about race. listen to th

karl rove, always a pleasure. we'll be following that rally tomorrow and previewing it with the oklahoma senator. he will be at that rally. what he says about it tomorrow. here comes "the five." ♪ >> jesse: hello, everybody. i am jesse watters with juan williams, dana perino, greg gutfeld and judge jeanine pirro. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." peaceful rallies underway across the country to commemorate juneteenth, the official end of slavery in the united states. come since president trump gears up for a major relaunch of his campaign with a huge rally tomorrow night in tulsa, oklahoma. it's his first since the pandemic started. supporters lining up all week and his campaign says 1 million people have rsvped. the city's mayor declaring a civil emergency over threats of violent protests in writing. president trump responded with a stern warning to: agitators, looters or lowlifes ." the trump campaign is taking precautions and the governor of oklahoma says the event will be safe. >> we've got to

strategist karl rove. former democratic congresswoman, jane harman. woodrow wilson center. and jonathan swan from axios. karl, i want to pick up on something that i was discussing with hud secretary ben carson, and that is what seems to be a pretty significant cultural shift going on in this country. do you the nfl flipping on the issue of whether or not to countenance kneeling during the playing of the national anthem. you have the senate, the republican-led senate armed services' committee voting to rename a number of military bases across the country that were named after confederate generals. you also have the president's poll numbers dropping precipitously. i guess the question is, does he run the risk of seeming out of touch with the shift goi now? >> i think both presidential candidates run that risk because this is a moment in which politics it is not called for, a call to national unity is called for. an interes interesting poll las, 70% of americans support the peaceful protest and demonstrates. at the same time, looting and vandalism undermi