karl rove is with us right now. good to see you.ck to despite your views on this and arguing to president back to the white house and all of that, down to the distraction it's getting to be for republicans defending him or even commenting and not on inflation out of control. the big economic pocke pocketbook, right? >> exactly. since the search on august 8th, what have we been talking about? we are now shy of one month of talking about this issue. if you are a democrat, you love it because republicans are forced to talk about trump taking classified documents to mar-a-lago. instead of inflation economy, the crisis at the border or a crime. so if a democrat, you want them to be talking about this. if republican, you want to be talking about these things. ironically enough, the special master you heard from david spunt and excellent reporting and that very smart guy andrew mccarthy. as you have heard, this will slow the whole process up. so, not a lot is going to happen the next couple of months here or there may appeals and so forth

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karl rove, great to have you here on a friday before the long weekend.ugh it's a big news day and any numbers on the economy, we are digging through to determine where things are. we know you have more americans living paycheck to paycheck, 11.2 million job openings, two straight quarters of contraction in the economy, a recession, what do the jobs numbers tell you, karl. >> well, there's something in it for everybody, the white house, the biden white house gets a robust jobs number, 315,000. federal reserve gets a jobs number that is less than july, sort of showing that the economy at least from a jobs picture is slowing down, not running at a white hot phase, and employers get an increase in the labor force. there are more people now looking for work than were looking for work in the previous month. >> sandra: that's a good thing. >> that's a good thing. but just remember this. august is a weird month, one of the months out of the year in which they are generally very significant adjustments later on, and that's because august is a month where people g

let us not forget who karl rove is, right, he's a bush republican. think under the bush rules, which were normal presidential rules where you abide by the standards and the norms of the office and you have respect for the office and respect for the rule of law, which president trump does not, that's exactly what you would expect to happen. of course, president bush, both bushes gave back the documents they were supposed to give. they never took them out of the oval office or the white house in the first place. but president trump has so obliterated the norms and the expectations that his supporters and most republicans now have a president that i really do not think karl rove's words matter much here. like, he can sit there in aspen, and talk about the agree just wrong that president trump has committed. but it really does not matter to his voters, to trump's voters, and who most voters in the republican party at this point. and if he were to be indicted for these document removals, which i do not think we see as a real possibility at this point, i m

let's bring it karl rove's deputy white house of chief of staff and fox news contributor. are getting tighter and i'm wondering, what does the whiteboard say about what voters are looking for? are they looking for the democrats argument about abortion january 6th or the republicans bread-and-butter issues, public safety, educational and constitutional freedoms? tell us what they are looking for? >> well the polls are consistently showing the economic issues dominate abortion. abortion had impact on the democratic women's enthusiasm about democrat voting for democrats and president biden's approval rating. but pretty consistently, the economy ended up being the top issue, which is pretty very problematic for democrats. take a look of the nbc poll. which party is better able to handle the issue of the economy? republicans. 47, democrats 28, that is a 19-point gap, that is the biggest gap for either party since this question was first asked by the nbc poll in 1991. also problematic for the democrats is, the issue of border. 56% say that republicans do a better job on border s

. >> jesse: turn to karl rove former deputy chief of staff for george w. with the former president when he met with the queen. so, karl, tell us what that was like behind the scenes with the queen. >> well, president bush was the second american president to be invited by a british monarch to stay at buckingham palace. and in november of 2003, he went there for almost a week. and she was a wonderful host. and more importantly, she was a remarkable leader. for seven decades, the symbol of the united congress dom and an important advocate of western values at the heart of the united states. she was a wonderful hostess. better than any hotel room i ever had. my room was located right next to the center room which the balcony is where the royal family appears. when they go out and wave at the are they center room. i did participate in creating almost an international dispute between the united states a andiated britain unintentional faux pas. they sent over diplomatic official from the embassy to say okay we are going to have a departure ceremony and the presi

. >> bill: karl rove on the pennsylvania senate race. it's getting good. democrat john fetterman against his opponent dr. oz. there is no agreement on a debate. >> this is not about health but democracy is built on us asking difficult questions of each other. ave gone up and up. the good news? so has the value of your home. and maybe a lot more than you think. if you need cash to stay ahead, call newday. use your va home loan benefit to borrow up to 100% of your home's value. not just 80% like some other lenders. take out an average of $60,000 and lower your payments by $600 a month with the newday 100 va cash out loan. pay down high-rate credit cards, personal loans, even car loans. missed a payment along the way? newday's been granted automatic authority by the va. we look at your whole picture. when lenders say no to a veteran, newday can say yes. it's time for the biggest sale of the year, on the sleep number 360 smart bed. it senses your movements and automatically adjusts to keep you both comfortable. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sl

let's bring in columnist karl rove who served as senior advisor to president george w. great to see you again. abortion did give dems a boost after the supreme court decision but seems to be waning as the economy goes into the dumpster. >> absolutely. that is bad news for democrats as we have seen through most of the polling that abortion which was never very high on the list of issues, declining a little bit while the economy is growing and it is bad news for the democrats. this is an nbc poll in which they asked which party is better able to deal with the economy. republicans 47, democrats 28 on the economy. that is 19 point gap, the highest advantage for the republicans since the question began being asked in 1990 one. on the issue of the border 56-20, 36 point advantage. that a healthy advantage and look at this one. republicans better able to issue it, 45 democrats 22, twenty five point advantage. a larger advantage in either party. the more this race gets to be, this election gets to be about the economy, jobs, inflation, better off for the republicans and other i

karl rove is a fox news contributor, and no stranger to these types of theatrics.ve been through this during katrina probably. >> not as bad as this. one of the things that interested me, look, under the laws that govern these natural disasters, fema, the federal government relates to the governor. the governor relates to all the locals. before this event occurred, president biden called the mayors of several largest citieo forth -- directly long before, several days before, he called governor desantis. i thought that was an unnecessary stab at the governor. the governor fortunately did not rise to the bait. he went out and was appreciative of president biden's call. complimented fema on the work they were doing in preparation of the event. it was a sign in an inappropriate way, president biden should have better sense to talk to the guy that i'm supposed to be talking to, the governor, making certain that he has all that he needs, because he's the guy that's supposed to be in touch with the mayors and county leaders. >> jesse: do you remember sandy, obama had the

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so here is karl rove laying out the fact that they do not belong to him.a listen. >> the doj is investigating, and the trump side has their lawyers and feelings about what was rightfully his and able to take -- but just interesting -- go ahead. >> let's be clear on this. none of these government documents are his to have taken. i agree with the deputy director that said a lot of the former presidents problems are of his own creation. you can -- out of the presidential records act of 1978, you cannot take original documents outside the white house, when you leave the white house, whether you are the president or any aid. know that it's forbidden under the law. >> the point there that rove says, they are not there is -- they brought him on and said -- that is the greatest thing about all this. i watched him do all kinds of things. previous life and public life, where he seemed either to be breaking law or flirting with breaking the law. and he encouraged russian sabotage, criminal sabotage of the election, right? he heard it on. he attempted to blackmail a f

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karl rove and joe concha. sandra smith will stick around for us today as well. and bret baier also joining us this hour as the president insists the economy is right on track. celebrates it with james taylor at the white house. first we go to white house correspondent jacqui heinrich. hi, jacqui. >> even though that new gallop poll shows that voters are far more concerned with the economy than the climate, the president is fixated on climate telling reporters that he's not concerned about yesterday's hotter than expected inflation reading or the stock market sell-off before announcing that $900 million for electric vehicle chargers on highways across 35 states. >> great america road trip will be fully electrified, whether you're driving coast to coast on i--10 or on i-75 in michigan. charging stations will be up and easy to find as gas stations are now. we'll invest $7 billion to have the batteries and other critical materials that car companies need. >> the white house wants half of all new cars to be electric by 2030. moneys from the chips act can produce nece

well, karl rove was talking about that last night on fox news.hat the doj is investigating and the trump side has their lawyers and their feelings about what was rightfully his and able to take. but it's just -- >> let's be clear on this. none of these government documents are his to have taken. i agree with the deputy director who said a lot of the former president's problems are of his own creation. under the presidential records act of 1978, you cannot take original documents when you leave the white house, the president of the united states or any of his aides. it's forbidden under the law. why he packed up that material when he had no right to do so, and that's what the government asserts in this filing. they say the former president asked for the return of the documents because he said they were created during his administration, a md the response to the government in their filing was, that's evidence that they respect his, if they were developed in the white house during his time as president, they belong to the government, not to him. >>

screenplays. 2 months after 911 in november of 2147 talk, hollywood executives met with bush advisor, karl rove in los angeles, to discuss patriotic plot lines. the industry could crash rove later said it was about showing that the war in afghanistan was not against islam, but against terrorism. that distinction would be lost on most filmmakers. and eventually their audiences. there was 24. it's centered around a counter terror, risen agent by the name of jack bower. and every season is based on 24 hours of trying to avert this terrorist plot. ha walker. what ball is torturing people sometimes killing them? but the audience is led to believe that he has no choice, but to do all these horrific things. so that sure was fantastically popular and played a very big role in terms of creating a terrorism mindset. season 4 of the show 24 had an ad campaign with a muslim family that looked very suburban americas deeply. companies are not behind i can't even tell you the shock i found when i saw that i'm here to tell you that i think that many people die because of it. drones are being dropped because we

i thought karl rove put it brilliantly in the "wall street journal."n 2005 when he was with president bush 43, 31 members objected to certifying ohio's electors. they had no reason to. they just decide protest joe ohio. vice president joe biden banging his gavel when democrats were raising objections while certifying the electoral results for donald trump's victory in 2016. >> i object because people are horrified. >> i object to the certificate from the state of north carl d north carolina. >> i object based on massive voter suppression. >> i guess it's all right to challenge election results you are not happy with with you are a democrat. >> this is a nation that respects free and fair elections. we honor people, we don't deny it. brian: we taped it. do you have a vcr? if you want to unify this nation and want americans to listen you have got to tell the whole story. it's now the just donald trump who protests elections, that's just the most recent headline. remember back in 2000 al gore may have been magnanimously accepting his loss, his party was n

this is -- i think that's the -- that is the breaking news on what judge napolitano, karl rove, andy mccarthy, a lot of these other republicans are saying now. >> yeah. you as a great lawyer know that a charge of obstruction of justice requires establishing a motive. and if it is obvious that donald trump was trying to obstruct the investigation of what was at mar-a-lago and impede a legal proceeding, which is part of the official definition of obstruction of justice, he is in really bad trouble and deserves to be. you know, joe, if you and i were to think of something that would outrage an american conservative or most republicans, let's say, just ten years ago, i think we would have said that an american president took potential nuclear secrets, hi lists of cia agents took these things and at least raised the possibility that they shared it with hostile governments and others who wished americans ill and that cia informers and others might have gotten killed by these hostile governments as a result. or nuclear secrets that could kill millions of people, got into the hands of people

trey: karl rove just called me during your answer he is very upset you are using a white board, he saysright on that. >> he is a blamin planningerrist,. >> thank you for joining us on is a sunday night. >> up next special master dearie is wasting no time getting to work. he wants trump's legal team to provide evidence to back up the claims. >> and bill barr will join us after the break. you deserve to feel safe with the confidence that you're protected online. introducing mcafee plus, all in one protection that goes beyond your devices. it protects you, your identity and privacy with credit and dark web monitoring, removing your personal info from sites that sell it, and more - all backed by one million dollars in identity theft coverage. with mcafee plus, you can enjoy life online confidently because safety has a feeling all its own. i was injured in a car crash. i had no idea how much my case was worth. i called the barnes firm. when a truck hit my son, i had so many questions about his case. i called the barnes firm. it was the best call i could've made. your case is often worth more

. >> listen, there are a lot of people not buying excuses from team trump -- including karl rove. watch. >> i saw that. >> let's be clear on this, none of these government documents are his to have taken. the deputy director said that a lot of the former president's problems are of his own creation. for the president records act of 1978, you cannot take original documents of the white house with you when you leave the white house. whether you're the president of the united states's, or any of his aides. it is verboten. >> i feel like i am in the twilight zone. when executed that search warrants on mar-a-lago, i was away on vacation. i was watching and going, am i in the twilight zone? why is this an issue? the documents are not his. there the government documents and they belong to the american people. why is this even an argument? >> i think you are right. if it belongs to the government and you take it, it doesn't matter what level -- who you work for -- you could be the janitor or have top-secret security clearance -- if it doesn't belong to you and you take it, you just on it,

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karl rove is skeptical of a comeback. he will explain.ting some of president biden's controversial comments slide. the statements he made that are raising eyebrows. >> it's so racist. he is the only white guy, basketball, meaning black people. joe biden did a 1955 time warp. his stories are old and outdated, don't make any sense and it is insulting. riders! let your queries be known. uh, how come we don't call ourselves bikers anymore? i mean, "riders" is cool, but "bikers"...is really cool. -seriously? -denied. can we go back to meeting at the rec center? the commute here is brutal. denied. how do we feel about getting a quote to see if we can save with america's number one motorcycle insurer? should flo stop asking the same question every time? -approved! -[ altered voice ] denied! [ normal voice ] whoa. this is john. he hasn't worked this hard to only get this far with his cholesterol. taken with a statin, leqvio can lower bad cholesterol and keep it low with two doses a year. side effects were injection site reaction, joint pain, urin

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here is karl rove on how republicans can win. >> if a candidate gets out there and lays out what theirh agree, you, mr. and mrs. ordinary citizen and i agree the country is going in the wrong direction and we need to turn it around. here is what i want to do to fight inflation. get government under control. get the border secured. to crack down on crime, to make certain that the values that made america great are respected and strengthened. that's the kind of winning message. you have to go out there every day with a plan to lay out and execute the plan. >> harris: you have to watch the screen. i observed there and tell me if i'm wrong, the red, republicans and yellow independents, the lines are getting closer together. >> independents are aligning with republicans and in 2020 they aligned more with democrats. the message is aligning among the republicans. republicans gave it an a, independents a b and democrats c. i want to hear what you are going to do for me. we know we don't like trump. we don't like biden. things aren't working. we want a better way and future and plan. tell us wh

karl rove former white house deputy chief of staff and a fox news contributor.the guy. i really do. but d.c. is a tough town. there is chinese spies. there is killer lobbyists. there is some really nasty journalists. i'm not going to name names, karl. but this guy is going to get eaten alive there. do you actually think this man has a shot? >> oh, sure he does. because the democrats are behind him. he has got sort of a mythology and and avoided a real campaign bunch of earns talked about and dealt with that he would have to have answers for. this guy is in favor of abolishing fracking. pennsylvania is the second largest source of natural gas production in the united states of america. i will let you figure out what state is number one. but it's the second largest. and he wants to ban fracking. this is a guy who said i am in favor of -- i heard this guy have an interesting idea that we could empty out a third of our people in prisons and be just as safe. i think that's a profound idea and i support it. dr. oz is now running an ad attacking him on it. and do you k

karl rove is a "wall street journal" columnist and fox news jupiter and served as senior advisor to presidentgeorge w. bush. welcome, good to see you. look at the polling, it seems undeniable, democrats have had a rally had had democrat versus republican polling generic pulling showing it even. what is wrong with that story? >> if democrats are even, it generally means they will lose, a lot more places around the country where congressional districts where there are 85% democrat and not as many 85% public and districts so the democrats need a lead on that. we've had great midterm election predictors for republicans with generic ballot tide or a quarter or two behind. the democrats have had a good couple of months but they exaggerate how good they are and ignoring the fact they started from a deep place. president biden's approval rating today in the 538.com averages 42 at the same time in 2018, donald trump's was 40 and republicans lost 42 seats in the house of representatives, does anybody think two points will save the democrats rather than losing in the double digit seats in the house? the

karl rove with us crunching the numbers on that. good morning to you. 38%. that's enough to make you go back to bed in the morning, karl. >> well, it didn't start at a high level a year ago, 51. they are approaching one out of every three think they're competent. if the election is referendum on joe biden the democrats are in trouble. if it's about other things it helps them. >> dana: our good friend in the bush administration days, i talked to jeanne every day. during the obama administration there was a point where there was questions about competence. once you are labeled incompetent it is difficult to come back from that. do you think it's one of the reasons that biden's numbers hold the way they are low for a president going into his first mid-term? >> think about it. his approval rating in the real clear politics average is 42.4%. that's barely above where donald trump was at this point in 2018 where the republicans lost 42 seats in the house. yet the media are saying look at this great recovery. you know, back from the dead. the biden administration an

rosner krishnamurthy, ari fleischer, karl rove, and shannon bream are here on that.ll others are welcome. caitlyn jenner has a few thoughts about that. and since it's friday, the hardest working man in television, brian kilmeade, is here. john roberts. sander is off today. join gillian turner and me at the top of the hour for "america reports." ♪ ♪ >> emily: welcome back. it's time for "in case you missed it." the grass may soon be a bit greener in california, and here's why. your boy, governor gavin newsom, this week signed a law making it legal to turn human remains into compost, starting in 2027. the process involves placing the bodies into a reusable steel container with wood chips and flowers for one month, allowing for a natural decomposition before being turned to soil. kat, to me it was half wine making and half homicide. does that if you like that with the wood chips in it? >> kat: i mean, if you want to do it. if that's what you want to do, he should be able to do whatever you want to do with your own ded body. i firmly believe that. i kind of want to be li

we'll ask karl rove. >> he is insulting the voters of pennsylvania by dodging the debate because he wants to avoidance erg for some of the far left radical comments he made. if he is sick then he is lying to us as well. either way this is not about health, it is about honor, integrity, honesty. your credit cards. call newday. you may not realize it, but one of the lowest cost ways to get money is to use your va home loan benefit. the newday 100 va loan lets you borrow up to 100% of your home's value at low re-fi rates instead of high credit card rates. and that makes a huge difference. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit indeed.com/hire we lost about everything trying to pay for prescriptions. we spent our whole pension but couldn't keep up. so my husband just stopped taking his medicine. and then he had a stroke. i can't get back what i lost, but thanks to aarp, a new law will protect seniors with a cap on their prescr

plus, karl rove on the latest job numbers out a short time ago.ambassador nikki haley response to democrats with growing attacks on the republican party ahead of the midterm elections. come join john roberts hemi life at the top of the hour. ♪ ♪ >> kayleigh: white house press secretary karine jean-pierre has responded to criticism of two marines like you think the president during his divisive speech last night. she was asked why the president sounded very much like politically charged speech as an official white house event, that means you pay. listen to her appearance because the president gave an important speech last night. an important speech at an inflection point. and you know, are democracy and values and our values our men and women protect us every day and fight for us every day believe in as well. the presence of the marines at the speech was intended to demonstrate the deep and abiding respect that the president has for the service members. to these ideals and the unique role are independent plays in defining our democracy no matter wh

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more of this information comes out, you see more and more traditional republicans beginning to say, karl roves attacking trump. how does any president take those kind of documents. >> he said let's make it clear, those documents were not his to take. i'm paraphrasing, but go ahead. >> of course not. i'm just saying to you, don, that there are more and more republicans who are beginning to say this is not acceptable, and frankly, at some point the vast majority will get their voices. the vast majority don't support him. maga, those maga numbers are probably 20% of the party. however, a lot of those people control the party apparatus, and that's why you see some of those people getting elected who are really on the extreme. ext extremism doesn't work in anything. in anything. >> let's talk more, before we do that, i want to play this, this is joe biden talking about the election lies and what they're doing to our democracy. watch. >> democracy cannot survive when one side believes there are only two outcomes to an election, either they win or they were cheated, and that's where the maga republi

it's so bad, and if you've seen bill barr and karl rove, anyone who's familiar with classified documents knows how unbelievably awful this is and how lame everything that trump has been saying about this and his team, this is crazy time, and it's very dangerous, very fricken dangerous, and we don't know where these documents have gone. we don't know -- these empty folders, 40 some empty folders. i mean, you know, classified. this is extremely dangerous. extremely dangerous. >> and charlie, even trump's own attorney general, former attorney general bill barr is not buying this, and let's listen to what he had to say. >> if, nin fact, he sort of stod over scores of boxes, not really knowing what was in them and says i hereby declassified everything in here, that would be such an abuse that -- and show such recklessness that it's almost worse than taking the documents. >> yeah, charlie, is it a good idea given this information is progressing the way it is for members of the republican party to share a stage with donald trump before the midterms? >> of course i never shared a stage -- no, i

when you lose people bar, and early in the week karl rove, do you think this gives trump's legal team any pause in terms of their strategy here? >> so far from what we've seen from trump's lawyers, this hasn't deterred them at all. bill barr is someone who is spoken with the justice department recently. we saw marc short today, pence's former chief of staff, also creek speak critically of the way these documents have been handled. but trump is saying one thing and his lawyers are doing another thing in court. and i have not changed their course so far. >> indeed, they are still fundraising. i think there is a fund raising email from team trump at a time stamp 7:43 all caps, we gave them much, this is a witch hunt. i do wonder -- the document they got this morning from the justice department, the suggestion that they are still interviewing witnesses -- what does that tell you about all of this? and how the last month has maybe changed the scope of their work? >> we know for right now that this investigation is still very much in its early stages. justice department lawyers have said so

force one to the fighter pilots who accompanied him to white house chief of staff andy carr and karl rove, the other senior aides aboard the plane, the press, security and the stenographer aboard the plane that day. he published, as i said in 2016, and i was astounded by the feedback i got the day that it published and ultimately scores and finally hundreds of letters from readers of people sharing their own stories of 9/11, and their own reactions. probably for 9/11 this year this is the first year when you have college students arriving on campuses across the country born after 9/11 that this year for the first time, we have american servicemen and women being deployed to fight in a war older than they are. and this year in march marked the beginning of the time when the first recruits to the new york city fire department born after the attacks could apply to join the fire service. and so my goal with turning thit shares the same title the only plane in the sky referring to the end of 9/11 when president bush left the air force base outside of omaha nebraska and flew back to washington

. >> yeah, i disassociated last week when i greed with karl rove and i have to tell you, today, billbarr was exactly right. you know, one of the pianos that barr made in that interview is that to do that, to stand over 50 boxes that contained documents and you don't even know what what's in there, to wave the wand and declassify it, and to assume you did it, and have the legal authority to do it, why would you do it. that is so reckless. you're releasing all of these secrets, you don't know what they are, the impact on our national security, you don't tell any agencies, i mean, that is in itself a very damming thing to suggest that you did. and, you know, i think that ultimately, anything that he did in that way is meaningless because it doesn't actually change the nature of the under lying information and the damage that it can do, which is what the classification labels actually reflect, and which, by the way, is how they are being treated by the current administration. >> you know, joyce, i wanted to get back to you for a second about what a nightmare donald trump is as a client.

you even heard it from karl rove who said these are not his documents. these were documents that belong to you and me, to all of us. right? these are public documents. and they should never have been put on a truck and sent to mar-a-lago. and one of the things that they're doing is -- first of all, they're airing some of the former president's grievances saying that the fbi is biased against him and that's the reason why you need this third party. they may, by the way, succeed in that and get a third party to look at these documents. but one of the things that they're not confronting, john, and this is a serious thing, is the question of obstruction and the question of why when they got a subpoena, when the president personally got a subpoena in may to turn over all documents that are marked as classified, why those documents were not turned over immediately, which is what the subpoena ordered them to do. >> jennifer, help us walk through the issue that judge faces today through the context of the two filings especially the latest one the trump filing fr

karl rove is a long-time republican and bush person and he's telling the truth there.t check two, rove calls it a kerfuffle. that might be minimizing it a little bit. i can tell you if you are a regular citizen, let alone a former president, you don't see fbi agents coming into your home, seizing documents over kerfuffles. although it can be a fun word to say. kerfuffle. now, let's look at a nonpartisan analyst here. this is not left or right. the cook political report checks this stuff out, and they stay 43% of voters somewhat disapprove of biden, are now still trending democrat in november. so let those facts sink in. the nonpartisan experts who track this, they're not saying biden is super popular. certainly not as popular as obama in the peak of his first term. they're not saying he's perfect. they're just saying that a lot of things are happening that are pushing more and more voters towards the democratic side in this home stretch post labor day november. we'll break it down with a special guest right after this. s leon the second... and leon... the first of them