bush, co-founder and a fox news contributor, karl rove. good to have you with us.d you make of what we just heard from the secretary of defense? did it answer any questions for you and what kind of relationship do you see us having with china over this issue? >> well, i thought it was a useful briefing. women congressman crenshaw and congress woman slotkin. the president of the united states has to speak about this. it was highly unusual in the state of the union this got not one mention. what are these things, what do we think is behind them. why do we think they're being sent, what is our plan to deal with them and if this is china or any other country, what is the price that the united states is going to be paid for this violation of our sovereignty and threat to our defense. yeah, i'm with congressman crenshaw. i thought he nailed it on the head. the president needs to speak out on this. until he does, have the secretary say things, but the american people want to hear from their. and be re-assured he's on top of it. >> martha: it seems like an important role f

karl rove, former white house deputy chief of staff and also fox news contributor. pecially excited to have you this morning in light of the news from ramaswamy yesterday. let's start with the bigger picture, though. we have the whole massive potential republicans, including the three who have already declared. on the democratic side, not so busy, we are looking at maybe williamson, maybe president biden, it seems, though, that in both cases there's like everyone is waiting for this shoe to drop by you know, on the gop side it's when is ron desantis going to declare, and the democratic side, it's when is president biden going to declare. >> i think that's right. and neither one of them should really be in, you know, in a rush to do it. governor desantis has a legislative session going on, travelling a bit around the country laying out a message. he can sort of lay behind the log and talk to a lot of people and basically say i'm thinking about running, what do you think if i do, and that's an important part of the dance that people are involved in. people like to be a

karl rove, best selling author, fox news contributor, political genius, all.erence here. but i sometimes think we can make a big deal of this when candidates go after each other. that's what they should do to differentiate from the pack, but where do you see it going? >> well, look, i think we're going to see some differences emerge between the candidates, but so far most of the time it's been appropriate. i thought, for example, chris sununu knew saying, look, i differ with governor desantis, yes, we should take on wokism, but i wouldn't take on a private company, meaning disney. he's entitled to his opinion, and i thought he expressed out in an appropriate way. frankly, the only person who has sort of engaged in scorched earth policies here is the former president who has gone after governor desantis with, i thought, a bunch of childish attacks, governor sanctimonious, and then went after him for having closed down florida for getting -- forgetting to say two things. one is that governor desantis closed down florida at the direction of president trump, and s

[applause] >> jesse: turn it over to karl rove, fox news contributor. karl, if we can look, i don't know if you can see the screen. omar had staff go to kinkos and build a life size photo photogrf herself as a child. it takes a lot of ego to tell your staff to blow up a picture and place that picture next to yourself and talk about yourself for 30 minutes. i have a pretty healthy ego, carl, i know you do, too. i don't think you would do that. >> it was all about her. it was about her ego. you are absolutely right. she said i'm a powerful voice that needs to be silenced. that's why this is happening to me. there was nothing in those speeches that you showed and nothing in her speech that dealt with the issue at hand which is she described jews as saying it's all about the benjamins. and she accused jewish americans of having allegiance to a foreign state. she dismissed 9/11 by saying some people did some thing. she called the united states an apartheid regime and she compared the united states and israel to ham mass and the taliban. and that's just the st

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karl rove is standing by. let's go to mark meredith at the white house for us. >> good morning to you. president biden is under growing pressure to publicly address the decision to shoot down multiple unidentified objects both u.s. and canadian airspace. we haven't heard much from the president on this. we did recently hear from the defense secretary lloyd austin. >> we have not been able to definitively assess what these recent objects are, we've acted out of an abundance of caution to protect our security and interests. that's why we have teams working hard to track down the debris from over the weekend. >> the recovery operations span four locations including those shot down over the weekend. remote areas in the uconn -- yukon. some are saying it could be spy trash but the weather service doesn't believe it was there. the pentagon released new photos off their work off the south carolina coast working to recovery the chinese spy craft. weather conditions are rough the last couple of days. some electronics a

karl rove had this take earlier. >> he has a compelling message.will be serious. again, it will be what is his message, how does he go about inspire ago coalition that make him competitive in these early states. >> we may find out the answer to those questions as he delivers remarks tonight in a lincoln dinner in iowa and then head to austin, texas where karl rove will be part of a conference where scott will speak with nikki haley and mike pence as well. neil? >> neil: a lot of tea leaves to follow there. thanks, griff jenkins. meanwhile, we're following the money. that can say a lot sometimes. i want you to meet the donor that just ditched don for run. every day, more dog people, and more vets are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food. they're quitting the kibble. and kicking the cans. and feeding their dogs dog food that's actually... well, food. developed with vets. made from real meat and veggies. portioned for your dog. and delivered right to your door. it's smarter, healthier pet food. this isn't just freight. these aren't just

karl rove on all of that and the significance of this latest entrant. karl, what do you think?teresting contest. i thought her video was instructive. she will run as an outsider which she was when she ran for both the state legislature of south carolina and then for governor. took the governorship by beating sitting republican lieutenant governor, sitting republican attorney general and a very popular and well-respected member of the united states congress. she was a three-term state representative when she ran. so she is going to be running as an outsider. she is running as a product of the american dream, born of indian parents who emigrated to the united states and moved to south carolina and she is going to be running as a generational shift. this is a, i think a very important point. she talks about a new generation of leadership. we talked about this in the past, you and i, 32 years we were governed by presidents of the greatest generation. for the last 32 years we've been governed by presidents from the baby boomer generation. at age 51 she would represent a significant

. >> bill: setting the table for karl rove. good morning. come into the conversation now. nice to have you. you have a white board here. let me tee you up on this. not just war we're talking about but politics, joe biden just launched his 24 re-election campaign in kiev. there is another far more important, what better way for him to show he still has what it takes than to make secret mission to a war zone and appear with zelensky. i set the table for you on that. how do you sight and what do you want to add to it? >> it was an impressive visit and it will improve the president's image as a strong leader. let's be careful a little bit. war has played a role in two presidential elections in the lifetimes of most americans. 1968 the vietnam war was a critical issue in the presidential campaign. 2004 it was also a key issue in the race, iraq and the battle between bush and kerry. but even successful the resolution of successful wars aren't necessarily an issue in the campaign often to the detriment of the incumbent. the first gulf war ended in 1991. then george h.w. bush is d

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karl rove is here to talk about it. good morning. a couple of videos came out one yesterday, a quick clip of how he thinks florida is the blueprint for america. that's the title. watch. >> when the world lost its mind, when common sense suddenly became an uncommon virtue, florida was the refuge of sanity. >> bill: it goes from there and runs two minutes, 2 1/2 minutes in length. here is what the fox polling found over the weekend among republican primary voters, desantis at 28%, donald trump at 43. everybody else there in single digits. how do you see it, karl? when does he take a bigger step, if at all, do you believe? >> first of all, he is very smartly not taking a step now. he doesn't need to. he is the governor of florida. a book coming out. he can talk about the florida record and what he has achieved in the state. we learn a lot about him and his values and what his priorities might be. but he doesn't need to become a candidate right now. if he wants to run for president, i assume he does. he is doing all the right things on h

want to bring in karl rove on this. in september i think it was "politico" and "new york times" and "washington post" were saying he is too old and "politico" is back at it again. biden may not run, top democrats quietly preparing and looking to april as the suggestion on behalf. what do you make of it if true? >> two things are going on here. one is when should biden announce for re-election if he is running? the idea that he said he would make a decision in december and then we thought he would do it after the state of the union and so forth. this is -- it is to the president's advantage to be the president as long as possible. so the idea that he has to go out now and announce as a candidate is faulty. he can put together a campaign quickly and he has time to do it. the second question is the more important question which is should he run? there is a great deal of dissatisfaction about that question. take a look at some of the polling. in july of 2022 cnn had a poll and 64% said they wanted somebody else among everyb

with that, we bring there karl rove, former deputy chief of staff for george w. a fox news contributor. karl, great to see you. you know, history and events have a way of getting in the way of things like the state of the union. karine jean-pierre said she expects him to address this. if he didn't, that would be a huge headline, right, karl? >> yeah, absolutely. there's not a lot of good that he can do except to reiterate that he ordered it to be shot down. ordinary people say why didn't we shoot it down over alaska, canada. there's fewer people in alaska than in the city of austin, texas and the state of alaska is bigger than the state of texas. we couldn't we have shot it down there or over international waters or over the thinly populated northern canada. the administration is never going to have a satisfactory answer to people asking that question. >> martha: there's questions that go along that chain. what was the communication between the white house and the governor of alaska, for example? what was the communication between the white house and justin trude

former white house deputy chief of staff karl rove with us now. good morning to you.head. you have a couple white boards. go ahead with number one. the finances. explain those to us as to what you expect later tonight. >> look, i'm looking for there is some tension in any state of the union address. particularly when you are in the third year of your first term. so is it going to be political? will this be the soft launch of his re-election campaign or presidential? i think it is mistake for him to be political. better to be more the president than a candidate. the question is on the economy will he gloat we have a greatest job numbers in the world, blah, blah, blah or realistic that the american people have serious concerns about the state of the economy. despite the very good jobs number and finally is he going to summon the american people to do important things or just get a laundry list of things that he and his policy staff have come up that doesn't seem to last much beyond the night? >> dana: you are also looking for -- what you are looking for in the speech. >

. >> sandra: if biden is going all in on the economy, he is going to campaign, as karl rove said thisng that is a big beto make when there's a lot of time left and if that indeed happens, that many people are predicting it will -- we will see you tonight on fbn. >> john: jurors in the double murder trial of alec murdaugh hearing more about his alleged financial crimes. testimony from one key witness is raising new questions about where all of murdaugh's wealth came from. >> sandra: and after last week's china spy flight over the u.s., we are learning about more such incidents that went up reported. so, how does the u.s. prevent it from happening again and when can we learn from the debris that has been recovered in the atlantic ocean. what we are now learning. lieutenant general keith kellogg and under secretary of the army patrick murphy will be here. >> as we think about a rising china in terms of being a top adversary for the united states in 21st century, we need to make sure we have an understanding of what information were they collecting. and it's designed to help make aches an

karl rove is a former white house deputy chief of staff and fox news contributor. one of these things we can show as well, 73% of people say that they are dissatisfied with the things in the united states. with how things are going. so how do you put a state of the union together with numbers like that? >> well, you don't get involved in happy talk. this is -- i think that's an interesting question about dysfunctional family. america in a way has always been a dysfunctional family but what's really important is the question of do you think the country is going in the right direction? depending on what poll you look at, those numbers are from 2/3 to 3/4 of the american people think the country is going in the wrong direction. the most important thing for the state of the union address is not engage in happy talk. this white house has done routinely to its disadvantage. everything is okay. economy is coming back. everything is groovy, wonderful. we've done a terrific job. the great things we've done. that's not where the american people are. start by being where the

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karl rove says for the evangelical vote it suppressed that vote and you had basically it come down todo see some fascinating trends and threads to pull and i'm sure we'll see more on the story. >> these are riveting hearings. >> great job last night. see you at 3:00. >> dana: harris faulkner is up next. >> breaking now a fiery hearing underway on capitol hill. the republican-led house is holding its first hearing to get to the bottom of the censorship of the hunter biden laptop story and how the feds were pushing twitter to do it. chairman james comer, republican from kentucky, leading the way to press former twitter executives on why they suppressed the bombshell reporting on hunter biden's laptop emails just before the 2020 presidential election. i'm harris faulkner and yo

again karl rove best-selling author, fox news contributor briley on all things political and much morest buzz i note george wilson talk to him as a rising star again in his mid- 40s. the same agency florida gov governor. he could just be the latest buzz is going to be a lot of buzzn tf a big city made it into a magnea tech center. he is well-liked by his fellow governors actually mayors on the country and u.s. conference of mayors. he is interested. we'll see how far that goes. hard to go in the last serious presidential candidate who was a mayor and made it into the sweepstakes. >> there were a couple presidents who work early in their careers. no one has ascended from being a mayor right to president, right? >> ob historic first. >> the last one to go there relatively quick terms wasn't grover cleveland was the mayor of buffalo for a year, governor of new york for two years and president of the nine states immediately thereafter. neil: he served as to terms. let me ask a little bit about that. that brings up donald trump he wants to essentially do the grover cleveland thing, get back

karl rove, dan hoffman, robert brian will help us go through it this morning.hern border wasn't enough, now is that the northern border. we will take you lives to border patrol there. and will artificial intelligence determine whether or not you keep your job? it's possible. dana and i will see you in 9 minutes half of the hour. a big show coming up. until then, back to ainsley downstairs. we will be watching, we know to be great. thank you, bill. our next guest starred as monaco for nine seasons on the hit tv series "touched by an angel." >> i have a message from the father. he wants you to know he loves you very much, and he wants you to know that your life can have meaning and significance, because he has a splendid purpose waiting for you. speak to you now in her new book, "be an angel: devotions to inspire and encourage love and light along the way," roma downey inspires leaders to get in touch with their inner angels. she joins us now. good morning to you. congratulations. >> thank you so much. good morning. >> ainsley: look at you, you're still stunning.

karl rove like white board and just wrote down all of these things. jury to i would want the jury to relate as they sat back in that room to remember what he was doinghoe when he wrote those things up on that whiteboard. but look thing, i'm not goingonu to second guess the prosecution. they saw what they they saes w that jury. that prosecutor had anate opportunity. i think his name was waters. and , not really. no r and so hele saw what the jury ws thinking and could seer their eyes. and we'll find out for sure. i guess the one question i havie for the judge not to take this view, jesse , at all, but whatnk do you think they do?o? will they have an opportunity, a call? would you callll - maybe- a po officer or somebodyoy justr or s to reaffirm and reinforce for the jury that he lieom d to them? d what >> t and when did they think he might have been lying? lysolutely. as a d.a., as a prosecutor,absou i have that right in southte carolina. >> i don't know i don't know enough about who have the right to offer rebuttal to testimony. okay, but the problem