i want to bring in karl stokes.bout police-community relations, they seem to be better today. but what needs to happen in the long term between the police and residents that they are tasked with protecting? >> actually i'm not sure if they are better today. it wasn't too long ago that the police ran athletic leagues, that they ran computer labs mentoring programs, and then in the early 2000s, we had a new mayor, we had a new police commissioner from new york, and the commissioner said we're not social workers. so with that edict, they closed the police athletic league they closed the centers where kids came to do their homework after school. they stopped mentoring to the young people. they broke a bond that had been for decades in baltimore city between the police and the people. i'm not sure if they are better in term of relations today. >> well let's follow on that. the notion of broken bonds. the atlantic suggests today that there should be two states of emergency declared. one for the rioting and looting last ni