, this is in karli. a continuous territory of free settlement and they lived there in that karaganda, well, in the suburbs, i was born there, my brother was born there, and then until the year 74, in the year 74, i went to lviv to study at the trusha school, this is an art school, because i studied at an art school in karaganda and anton markovych is such a teacher, he was from an art school. he was obviously also a westerner from western ukraine and told me that you should go to study in lviv. he sent all our boys from karaganda to study in lviv. such a whole group of us was there, well, in different uh, in at different times they came and went each differently so there and i gradually gradually gradually understood this story in fact what happened like this and so on here. well, to this day, it was possible to preserve the quality of the conditions of the cultural tradition in this situation so you grew up in a russian-speaking environment . your mother could speak ukrainian. there were also many ukrai