. >> the next time we checked in with karmac, she informed us she no longer wished to speak on cameraand while her relationship with lechte seemed frayed, anthony k kimbley apparently wants to repair his relationship with jail staff. >> i never had a problem with you. >> he was recently moved to a more secure cell after threatening to throw a cup of urine at an officer. >> we moved him to a quieter location to get his thoughts left. because normally he doesn't give me a problem. ever. i was actually surprised to find out he was kicking the door and threatening to throw urine. >> kimbley says he has been upset over the recent death of his father. >> i understand you have been upset over some personal issues. >> i just needed somebody to come sit down and talk to, i couldn't just talk to anybody. >> right, it is a very stressful time, especially when you lose somebody. and you can't leave to go do anything about it. and you can't leave to comfort your family. it is hard on you. i just feel like putting you in here is giving you some peace and quiet. >> i just feel like -- you know, lett

he is the karmac waterhouse professor of legal theory at the gorgetown university law center where he directs the georgetown center for the constitution and teaches constitutional law and contracts. he is the author of many books and countless legal articles. among his books are "re stow are the lost constitution. the presumption of liberty." which plays into the question i last posed in my introductory remarks. also "constitutional law: cases in context" which treats the constitution historically unlike most con-law case books and contracts cases and doctrine. most important for our purposes here today, randy took the lead in crafting the legal challenges that brought obamacare before the supreme court in 2012. please republican dibarnett. -- randy barnett. [applause] >> it's great to be back at cato institute with all my friends. i should probably disclose at the outset that i agree with ilya entirely here in this debate, but i don't think my role today is to pile on and to make this a two-on-one debate. the way, for example harvard law school did when they invotedded me to debate t