professor karol sikora, thank you.th matt taylor. the coldest may night in nearly 110 yea rs the coldest may night in nearly 110 years in northern ireland overnight last night. a bit more cloud this afternoon, breezy through the english channel. more cloud in scotla nd english channel. more cloud in scotland and northern ireland where we could see a few showers. but many places will be dry. temperatures up a bit on yesterday at around 11—16. 0vernight more cloud around and it should not be as cold, but there will still be some frost. it is a bit hit and miss for the northern half of the country. clearer skies in the south where we are more likely to see that frost tomorrow morning. not as cold tomorrow as it was this morning. many places will be dry. still some showers in scotla nd be dry. still some showers in scotland and northern ireland. england and wales stay dry, but the cloud bubbles up and temperatures are very cloud bubbles up and temperatures are very similar to today. this is bbc news with the latest headlin

official and physician, professor karol sikora, is challenging that narrative, being pushed by his oldyer. professor sikora, thank you so much for being on with us.es i think we both contend this virus could come back in the fall, anything could happen, it could come back in the winter, but why is the other possibility of attenuation, basically nothing, so quickly dismissed? just, educate us. >> so basically, there are two factors -- well, three factors end a pandemic. the first, our behavior, the host, how humanity reacts to it, social distancing, avoiding crowds, that sort of thing, the very fear that this virus changes our behavior pattern. the second thing is the virus itself. how it deals with the fact that increasing immunities out there in its host. and it's changing, saw summer weather has come in north america, and things are moving on. the third thing, of course, is what actually happens in terms of the fear factor. and how we go into the autumn and see another wave. i've heard all of the doom-related theories. i'm an oncologist, i can't treat cancer patients properly because

i can now speak to professor karol sikora who's a former head of the world health 0rganisations cancero's from the world health organisation. really good to see both of you again this morning. thank you forjoining us. this morning. thank you forjoining us. lets talk about the public health messaging, doctor harris, i will begin with you at this critical point. how important is it the government gets itjust right and that the public follows the close? you are absolutely right to put it this way. this is a partnership. stopping the transmission, getting out of lockdown, easing it is totally in our hands. that means there has to be a good partnership between the authorities who are making the decisions about the strategies and the public, who are those who have to really carry out the strategies and comply with what is recommended. because, professor sikora, some people not listening, we had seen the pandemic spreading from a few cases to an explosion in the numbers. just a few people, i guess, not really following the rules can mess this up for everyone? absolutely. margaret is completel

we're nowjoined by cancer care specialist karol sikora. i treatment is a high priority of yours. slowly. the problem with cancer as it doesn't go away. i talked to my pathology collea g u es away. i talked to my pathology colleagues who diagnosed biopsies. they have had less than 8% of returns through april. that means people have been walking around the streets with cancer. you can't get endoscopies, that is putting tubes down the mouth and up the bottom to get snippets of cancer have more or less disappeared. and ct scans, mri scans are the cornerstone of cancer diagnosis and are just not being done. so we've got to get moving because any delay with cancer means it spreads from the primary site, breast, lung, prostate, and so on, to other tissues and lymph nodes around the body, that is called u pwa rd around the body, that is called upward stage migration, a very technical term that means spreading. it means it is more difficult to treat when it is spread, the outlook is boring. so we have to get going. and there are signs we are getting going, which is great. we'vejust been t