start with karrie. go ahead and define what his statement is trying to say there. when you think about the allegations of president biden on the speakerphone, when you think about the trips on air force two to china and the dinners with photographs in washington, d.c. restaurants. go. >> very intentional in the statement to say not financially involved. remember, bill and dana and everyone on this panel. we all know a statement like that requires a lot of lawyers looking at it. i'm sure the white house, there was some conversation between what would be in that. a lot of eyeballs. every word is carefully chosen. the fact that he chose to characterize his father's involvement as not financial i think says a lot. if anything, i think hunter may have won the hour by getting out of being deposed right now but joe lost with that statement because i think it's indication that the committee should go forward and say okay, what involvement exactly was there? >> dana: i can't help but put myself in the shoes of the white house press secretary day, byron, who have a press con