what's called in cop talk, tickling the wire. >> is this karrie neurauter?yes, this is she. >> we have an investigator from corning pd call karrie saying i want to talk to you. and the hope is that that will get a conversation going between lloyd and his daughter. >> i didn't know if she had time to meet up with mep. i know it's break time and i didn't know what your plans were. >> had will we be able to talk on monday? >> okay. >> with her wire tickled would karrie take the bait and call her father with the latest? she did exactly that. >> hi, sweetie. >> hey. i just got off the phone with officer whatever from the corning police department. he called and he's like oh, i'd just like to meet face to face as well. >> you know, i'd like you to not do that if you can avoid it. tell him i'm sorry, i've got a counseling appointment back in new jersey tonight, i've got to get to my counseling appointment. tell him this has been really hard on me. >> yeah. >> could you cry? >> i might. >> we call it the lie and cry conversation, because it's when all of our hackles