karwan. talk about the idea where the nation is right now, where there's a lot of talk about the trump wall, you know? it's not connected to any sort of current reality. >> right, yeah. there were two proposals put out eight prototypes were chosen. the teams were given 30 days to build a 30-foot long and ostensibly 30-foot high wall. >> the way you describe it it makes sense. he hosted one reality show. this is back door pitch for another reality show. >> six teams, 30 days. to build the wall. welcome to "america's got talent but it's wasting it building this wall." so let's talk about this -- is that -- the noise of the loudspeaker. >> yeah it's funny as we sit here talking about this -- this border and this wall, like i can -- we can hear the sounds of life there. in any other situation it's like we'd walk over and see what happens. the man is selling ice cream. let's check it out the. >> you question the nature of the nation state itself. >> is that what i'm doing? i just want some ice cre