karyn mccluskey was one of the founders of the vru.s. they said, look, we can keep a lid on the pot, we can absolutely arrest people, but that's not fixing it. we sort of really started to look at it like a public health issue, like a disease. really? violence was a disease? we started to look at how it was transmitted. you grow up in an angry, aggressive home, so you almost become infected. so we started to look at what would prevention look like. over the next 14 years, homicide rates in glasgow fell by more than two thirds, from 39 in a year, to 11. lyndsay has been a police officerfor 28 years. she works with kevin, a former armed robber and heroin addict. they are part of the violent 0ffender watch project, or vow, a police team trying to cut reoffending rates. what's unusual about the vow project is that it teams up police officers with ex—prisoners. initially i was like, it's the police that want information. they're up to something. the trust wasn't there. they said, kevin, could you possibly break down these barriers, we want