and maybe karzai won't be as paranoid as he is today. so i blame karzai for a lot. i can also, from his viewpoint since we haven't told him what our commitment and roles and missions are he would be at least, to some degree, uncertain of the degree of our commitment. is it true he recently agreed to a long-term friendship and cooperation plan with the iranian government? >> let me dress the first part and then i'll come to that. i don't know you and i have any disagreement on the you till of announcing the size and scope of our presence. i'm not taking issue with -- >> one wonder why the administration hasn't. what i would say is that president karzai has shown absolutely no interest in the size of the -- or indeed the scale of our budget. >> he shows interest in my conversations with him. he showed -- we wanted to know in my conversations with him. maybe he hasn't with you. he certainly has with me. go ahead. >> i -- he certainly knows, i mean, the by lateral security agreement define in excruciating details the functions our forces would undertake what he doesn't

president karzai indicated that he was not in a hurry to sign it and now he accuses the u.s. of quote applying pressure and creating dependency by cutting off fuel supplies to several army and police units the afghan military now heavily relies on the coalition read the u.s. food fuel vehicles logistics and other supplies karzai has hardly been an independent leader after all he owes his power to the us and now he faces the challenge of showing his people that he can stand up for them despite this dependency washington makes it very difficult for him every week or so sometimes more often we hear president karzai demand the u.s. stop killing civilians last week he condemned a u.s. drone strike that reportedly killed a toddler he said american forces are not respecting the life and safety of afghan people's houses now the team unity of u.s. forces from prosecution is the key part of this deal afghans demand justice and when civilians get killed what they get is apologies sometimes not even that and homemade karzai as well as the majority of afghans are now saying apologies are

are that he praetorian guard for karzai and whoever comes after karzai?there's no political vancement to that or at least no political statements what that's going to be. i think the president also would have to at least tell the american people what americans are still going to be doing there for the next ten years. i mean it is not even as cut and dried as what americans are doing, you know, in the dmz. >> 10,000 troops comes with a pretty big sized check as well. >> that is the key thing here. the troops themselves are less important than the aid money. if the troops respect there then it's very hard to convince congress to keep spending billions of dollars. the budget for the afghan military is bigger than the amount of revenues the afghan government takes in. they need that money from u.s. and nato f that aid gets cut off, they are really in trouble. you remember after the soviets left in '89, the communist government stayed in power for three years. how did they do it? they were getting big checks from the russian government. once those checks were

we are groveling to karzai. i know karzai. i have known him for 20 years. and to suggest -- his family, we all know what his family's done. they have become filthy rich. and we are dealing with a group there now centered around the karzai clique. drug dealing, skimming of usaid, cronyism at its worst. and we are dealing with pakistan in order to make sure we have a presence there, meaning in afghanistan, and the pakistanis are doing what? we know the pakistanis are behind the i.s.i., who they are financing. we know that they spent money that we end up getting from us to kill american soldiers. this is insanity. then we have people who want to stay longer? it's time for us to get our butts out of that country. maybe not for their sake, for our sake. we don't even care enough to know how much it's costing or how many killed and wounded we suffered. that should be right on the tip of your tongue because that's a cost to everybody's kid. everybody has got a son there or has to know that our number one priority is that person who we sent over there we care about

it is unfortunate that president karzai does not. even though i note with interest an article that says that president karzai agreed on a cooperation pact on sunday while continuing to resist signing a long-term security agreement with the united states. it is pretty amazing to me. enough time and effort to strike an agreement with tehran, but not with the country that is shed blood and national treasure to bring it to the point at which it yesterday. let me reiterate finally hit the u.s. has no intention in interfering in the election process. the choice of president and provincial officials will rest with the afghan people, but the future of international assistance will depend upon the integrity of the process. we have seen some progress with respect to the election preparations, but i am concerned about the security situation. we know that hundreds of polling places will not be able to open. many are in areas too dangerous for domestic and international observation. i am also deeply concerned that this enfranchisement of women, e

now yesterday mr rasmussen decided to play hardball he said that if karzai doesn't sign the deal with the americans all nato forces could be withdrawn from of ganesan after thirteen years of war and that eight billion dollars in annual aid that afghans have so badly needs will that could be in jeopardy too but if this is a game of carrots and sticks approach we saw both the nato and the united states somewhat soften their stance today the u.s. secretary of state john kerry came out with a new proposal this morning saying all right if karzai doesn't want to sign the deal let's come up with a plan to help him save face we can get the defense minister to sign it anyone as soon as it gets signed quickly and soon now we also saw both nato and the white house refuse now to hold karzai to a deadline this is a major about face for the white house which had a earlier insisted that karzai is signed the deal before the end of the year now they're saying they simply wanted done just as quickly as possible for cars i mean while he knows that he needs this money he knows that afghanistan does need

the simmering tensions have erupted into a war of words on sunday karzai accuse the u.s. of deliberately withholding fuel supplies to pressure him into signing the deal the nato led force in afghanistan says that's simply not true and it's not the only spat a u.s. drone strike last week killed a toddler and injured two women the top u.s. commander formally apologized but karzai wants a different apology one from president obama himself for harm done to afghan civilians during the war the u.s. response don't hold your breath there is not a need for the united states to apologize to afghanistan quite the contrary we have sacrificed and supported them in their democratic progress and in tackling the insurgency and al qaeda but the insurgency isn't over and in parts of afghanistan residents are caught between hatred of international forces and fear of the taliban this man says he lost two sons in an errant nato attack. my children feel fear when they see a helicopter and run away to the rooms there is a lot of fear. but once the sun goes down another threat emerges on that an

and other nato leaders are hoping to pressure hamid karzai to sign a bilateral peace pack.fghan officials say no deal will be signed unless president karzai's demands are met. >> reporter: this is not fooling around. this is serious business. they are the worlds of the u.s. secretary of state john kerry here in brussels on tuesday evening and addressing the afghan president, hamid karzai. why hasn't the agreement been signed? john kerry wouldn't speculate. john kerry believes the document was agreed last month.. susan rice went to kabul last week, she came away empty handed. what is at stake here is the legal basis upon which troops and trainers can operate in afghanistan in a post 2014 environment. it can't be switched on and off like a light switch, that is the message from nate toe and john kerry. what they are trying to do is impress on karzai the necessity of signing this paper before the end of the year. it will be a tough ask because karzai at the moment appears adamant that he won't budge. >>> hezbollah is blaming israel for the death of one of its senior commanders

>> that kind of behavior really doesn't work very well with karzai. look, i know president karzai.lly personally like him. i've been in one on one meetings as director of cia where i needed his knowledge and approval of activities. i found him to be a reasonable man. certainly, chris, i mean, this is nothing more than a temper tantrum on the part of karzai. and somebody in this relationship has to act like an adult. that's us. this agreement is going to be signed. the lawyer jurga supports it. >> they had a major meeting a week ago. >> and most afghans realize, without american and nato troops, you don't get economic aid from the west. they know this is about the survival of afghanistan. i would council patience on our part, if we have harsh words for the president of afghanistan, we should share them in private. >> is hamid karzai unstable? >> he acts erratically, but i don't want to judge the man. i don't think his life experience has prepared him for the burdens that we in history have put on him. and therefore i'm somewhat sympathetic, which is different than saying we should m

so, it is now up to president karzai to make a decision. >> did the u.s. miscalculate think he could be a partner? >> we were surprised. we didn't understand what he said going in, as you noted in support of the bsa as it was agreed to, when secretary kerry was over here with him a few weeks ago. and then to have him come back and try to reopen some of these issues, yes, it was disappointing. yes, it was surprising. but we're dealing with the realities that we have before us. >> schieffer: secretary of defense with our margaret brennan we'll be right back with more on nelson mandela. give me more power! [ mainframe ] located. ge deep-sea fuel technology. a 50,000-pound, ingeniously wired machine that optimizes raw data to help safely discover and maximize resources in extreme conditions. our current situation seems rather extreme. why can't we maximize our... ready. ♪ brilliant. let's get out of here. warp speed. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics indu

karzai is gone in six months. we'll get a new president who will execute this bilateral security agreement with the united states. don't react emotionally to him. it's easy to do, to get impulsive over this thing. we made a huge mistake walking away in iraq and not leaving security forces behind and we cannot make that mistake again here. >> if we can't reach a deal though, what kind of danger are our troops in and our military personnel there if they continue on with an extended mission of creating stability and clamping down on terrorism and terrorist outposts in that country? are they left unshielded, unguarded if we can't reach a deal? >> if we can't make a deal, by next december all the troops are out. i suppose a residual force, somewhere between 10,000, 15,000 is probably what's on the table as a realistic option that would stay. i don't think that's going to happen. i believe we'll make a deal. we have always had these outburs outbursts, they're frustrating but at the end of the day karzai comes around. if

but afghan president amin karzai says not until the us cleans up its routes usual the sovereignty and institutions and. continued presence of international forces and afghan villages on the very conduct all the war its own the simmering tensions erupted into a war of words on sunday karzai accused the us deliberately withholding fuel supplies to pressure him into signing the deal. the nato led force in afghanistan says that's simply not true. it's not the only stat. a us drone strike last week killed the toddler and enter to win in the top us commander for only apologize. but karzai once and different apology one from president obama himself for harm done to afghan civilians during the war the us response don't hold your breath there's not a need for the united states to apologize to afghanistan quite the contrary that we have sacrificed in and supported them in their democratic progress in tackling the insurgency mlk day. but the insurgency isn't over. in parts of afghanistan residents are caught between hatred of international forces and fear the taliban this man says he lost two so

officials have been demanding hamid karzai sign a new security agreement. >> reporter: before arrivingin afghanistan secretary hagel was in bahrain trying to reassure allies in the middle east that the united states is committed to the persian gulf region. secretary hagel said the u.s. is willing to start selling advanced weapons, things like missile defense systems to u.s. allies in the region. the move is seen as a way to counter iran's military ambition. he added that even though the west had agreed to a temporary deal to limit iran's nuclear capability, tehran still poses a significant threat to the middle east and the world. many allies in the region fear the u.s.'s withdrawing from its traditional role in the middle east but hagel said after a decade of war the u.s. will not shirk its responsibilities in the middle east. >> we know diplomacy cannot operate in a vacuum. our success will continue to hinge on america's military power, and the credibility of our assurances to our allies. >> following that he met with senior afghan officials in an effort to push karzai to sign a bilat

karzai says the us is trying to pressure him into signing a security deal which would allow american troops to stay in afghanistan on the twenty fourteen but he's got its kind has the teacups washington is very determined to sign the pact by the end of this theory in order for us troops not to withdraw completely from the data sent by the end of twenty fourteen the deal the us is pushing forward with the fifteen thousand troops behind when the assembly of afghan elders and afghan tribal leaders most recently endorsed the security deal with the u s president karzai indicated it was not in no hurry to sign it and now he accuses the west of quote applying pressure and queen dependency by cutting off fuel supplies to several army and police units. the afghan know that we now have the life of the coalition read the us with fuel vehicles logistics and other supplies comic karzai has hardened and independently to crawl he believes his power to the us and now he faces the challenge of showing his people to stand up for that despite its dependency washington makes it very difficult for him ev

we are groveling to karzai. i know karzai. i have known him for 20 years. and to suggest -- his family, we all know what his family's done. they have become filthy rich. and we are dealing with a group there now centered around the karzai clique. drug dealing, skimming of usaid, cronyism at its worst. and we are dealing with pakistan in order to make sure we have a presence there, meaning in afghanistan, and the pakistanis are doing what? we know the pakistanis are behind the i.s.i., who they are financing. we know that they spent money that we end up getting from us to kill american soldiers. this is insanity. then we have people who want to stay longer? it's time for us to get our butts out of that country. maybe not for their sake, for our sake. we don't even care enough to know how much it's costing or how many killed and wounded we suffered. that should be right on the tip of your tongue because that's a cost to everybody's kid. everybody has got a son there or has to know that our number one priority is that person who we sent over there we care about

hagel would not meet with karzai? >> he snubbed karzai.arzai said he would not let -- you wantallow certain detainees released from guantanamo. he said he might be postponing signing an agreement until april. the u.s. is not ok. the end of they year. they need to start planning the troops will stay. joined me.ler good to see you. coming up, shopping for bitcoin. the virtual currency scavenger hunt. ♪ >> digital currency, bitcoin, has had a wild ride. last week it plunged more than 20%. like baidu suspended accepting payments. so much focus, matt miller went to find out what one can actually do with a bitcoin. >> the incredible volatility of missed lastd not be week. the price shot up to more than $1200 and dropped to $600 momentarily. we thought because of that and the media attention we should do something to really figure out what this is and how it works. theame up with the idea of 12 days of bitcoin. i will do something else every day. boughtthe first day, i one. it was more difficult. i went to a number of sites. blockchain.info. i ha

it feels like this is really hamid karzai playing politics.t seems very resolute on this one. i think people forget when it came to the status force's agreement in iraq, he was willing to and did walk away because he didn't think he was going to get the deal that would be the best for our troops. so it seems like karzai is playing a little bit of a game here that i think i don't think he is going to win against barack obama. >> well, and some people think he is overplaying his hand, karen. and u.s. officials to your point are adamant about the fact that they are willing to employee the zero option if karzai doesn't sign on to this security agreement. of course, karzai saying he is going to leave that to his successor. the united states saying that's not good enough. i will also say that this recent drone strike, which has left a child dead, the united states, a u.s. commander apologizing for that is only straining this already very fraught relationship and very tense situation right now. i can also tell you, karen, that western officials who h

first of all, president karzai should sign the agreement. it's been approved by a large assembly of leaders. they got together and looked at the proposed agreement with the united states after 2014, and asked -- recommend that president karzai sign it. he should sign it. it's in our interest. that said, his refusal to sign it up to this point is reckless. i also adversely impacts our ability to plan for post 2014. >> fine, if he doesn't sign it, we'll really pull everyone out? >> at some point, george, it becomes impossible to make those kind of plans. number one. number two, yes, if the united states doesn't have a bilateral security arrangement with afghanistan, that supports its troop presence there, the united states cannot be present in afghanistan after december 31st, 2014. and this has cascading effects. if the united states isn't there, then nato allies won't be there. because they rely on the capabilities the united states provides. we won't have the same kind of support for the afghan national security forces. it's a very big point

hamid karzai insists it has to be him. a result we have stalemate. >> al jazeera's paul brennan live in brussels. thank you. >> the u.s. suspended shipments out v afghanistan through pakistan. the pentagon said tuesday that it's part of a plan to withdraw troops from afghanistan by the end of next year. the broader shutdown comes amid protests over u.s. drone strikes in pakistan. trucks must take outer routes through central asia - it will take time and cost more. >> the united nations a using drones, for the first time the u.n. confirms its peacekeepers are sending unmanned craft. it monitors the areas in the dong. >> it is a first, taking to the skies. the u.n. has fleets of white painted suvs. now the first united nations unmanned aerial aircraft more commonly known as a drone. unlike those of many militaries and the u.s., it's iquipped only with a camera, not armed with missiles. after years of bloodshed the idea is it to monitor a fragile peace deal, a large area, much remote jungle terrain. >> this is something we ne

secretary of state insisting other officials could approve the deal mr karzai is demanding a halt to all american military operations after the u.s. combat mission in the country and in two thousand and fourteen washington wants to leave up to sixteen thousand soldiers in afghanistan and as pushing for permission to raid afghan homes as well as legal immunity for u.s. troop. the secretary of state john kerry tried to work around karzai and passed saying the afghan minister of defense or the government could sign the security deal instead however his own deputy spokesperson tried to play down this claim. simple statement of fact it wasn't meant to indicate any policy decision or shift or change at all in any way it was just a statement of fact that technically it's possible for international agreements for . an official other than a president to sign then this is we weren't indicating this is our preference and anyway we've said very publicly that we'd like president karzai to as soon as possible sign this agreement so it was very much just a statement of fact and david thompson is a

or nato troops now in a recent interview with limone newspaper president hamid karzai accuse the u.s. of applying quote colonial pressure and order to force them to sign such a bilateral security agreement of course members of the house foreign affairs committee had some interesting words to sling back at tommy karzai as well as accusations take a look at this i'm concerned that president karzai is blustering over whether or not he will sign the bilateral security agreement risks destabilizing afghanistan. by the stabilizing the security situation even further now perhaps one of the most contentious moments of this entire hearing was when congressman dana rohrabacher had his chance to speak what child the exchange played out between congressman rohrabacher and the members that they invited to the hearing to testify how much are we spending annually in afghanistan now i wish the cost the american taxpayer anybody know how many killed and wounded and we suffered in the last twelve months. she do it would you know that story i do know and i'll have to get back with you on that one also w

doesn't need to cut a deal with hamid karzai of afghanistan. >>> next, how to understand the booming american economy. i'll ask the man who presided over great growth and some critics charge also helped create many bubbles. former fed chair alan greenspan. and as we approach the first anniversary of the newtown massacre, what can the u.s. learn from other nations about gun policy? i'll take you to japan for a fascinating look at a nation that loves violent video games but has a gun death rate that is very different from america's. it's a preview of a "gps" special airing tonight at 7:00 p.m. eastern. >>> but first, here is my take. when nelson mandela was released from prison in 1990, i remember being struck by how old-f old-fashioned he seemed. he spoke with the language, kay dance and manner of figures from the 1940s and '50s. as someone who grew up in india he reminded me of the videos i had seen of mahut ma gandhi and nero. he had the same formal way of speaking and dressing, the same dignity of bearing, the same sense of history. and mandela really was a throwback to an older ti

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the meeting with karzai was in nondiplomatic language, a furious failure.rzai is standing his ground, and as of this writing shows every intention of waiting until after the april elections in afghanistan before signing any status of forces agreement. why should he cooperate when his own history of bluffing and obama's crossable red lines have served him well? recent leaks say the president is now retreating from his deadline. no surprise there. some believe mr. karzai actually wants a deal with the taliban and is pretending that foreign troops are the real enemy. yes, the enemy is us. to heighten the drama, american commander are complaining about having enough time to extract our forces by the end of next year. at last count, 2 #, 289 americans have given their lives defending this heremmic place where outsider were never welcome. 1,000 americans have been wounded, many of them permanently crippled. at home the pace for the war increases. a "washington post" abc news poll reports that 66% of our country believes that afghanistan is not worth fighting for.

as well as accusation is fickle and that's been concerned that president karzai's blustery over whether or not he will sign the bilateral security agreement risks the stabilizing afghanistan but the state license security situation even further. it's one of the most contentious moments of this entire hearing was on congressman day now mark cocker had his chance to speak what's on the exchange played out between congressman barr barker and the members that didn't find it to the hearing to testify how much are we spending annually in afghanistan now she ate cost american taxpayers. you know how many killed and wounded. we suffered in the last ball ups she's doing in regina. to ride in on all of it back with you on that one also. we don't know what the cost is and we don't even know how many killed and wounded her and were supposed to believe you fellas. plants can end up in a positive way in afghanistan. holy . now santa congressman barr blockers question six point seven billion dollars is being spent in afghanistan. each month. some are interesting questions of rounds during the course o

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president karzai has said he does not want to be the one who signs it. he is holding off on signing it until next year. it is a problem. there is no question about it. the substance is basically what both sides are comfortable with. president karzai is spilling new ideas, i do not know. it does not sound like it. it is whether or not to get so it. formally signed i the hope is we will get it signed before the elections. is his refusal to sign. >> he wanted to renegotiate. --wanted to have the avenue afghanistan taliban members released from guantanamo. he wants no more rage or bombing of afghan houses like the one that just happens. is this rhetoric? is it something we need to come to terms with? >> he also presented the agreement as is to the world journal. about two or three weeks ago. they uprooted. -- they approved it. the issuesg some of he raised before. theave seen that if he had objection he would not have sent it in the first place. his site to have it both ways. we're going to have to work through it and it definitely creates a problem in terms

karzai and his national security council say they believe the u.s. has cut off military supplies and fuel deliveries in order to pressure afghanistan into signing that new security agreement. u.s. embassy officials say that is simply not true. the u.s. government seeking a new deal to keep american troops in afghanistan beyond 2014 but president karzai listed a set of conditions that must be met before he disagrees to an extended u.s. military presence. let's go to other overseas stories. thailand, overnight the prime minister vowing to open every door for talks with protesters demanding resignation. about 30,000 demonstrators taking part in what they call a people's coup. police have been using tear gas and water cannons to keep the protesters at bay. some of whom stormed the state television headquarters. the chaos forced the prime minister yesterday to flee a police compound. the critics say if you don't know the situation that her government is still controlled by her brother who the military removed as prime minister way back in 2006. at least f