you and hamid karzai and abdullah abdullah all say, "we must engage. a national dialogue. "we hope to achieve a new political settlement "in which there is a sharing of power." well, you tell me, after two weeks, do you get any indication from the taliban at all that they are willing to share power? first of all, what is the alternative that we have? do we have to engage in war again, another cycle of violence, or should we give a chance to talking to them? and particularly, when you hear words of assurances that we need to hold them to, let's say hold them to their words so that they're delivered upon. so it's not a stooge thing. it's a responsible thing which we are doing. and secondly...secondly, it's only been two weeks that kabul just as unexpectedly and suddenly fell and it was a shock to us. it's been a pleasant shock to the taliban as well. they did not expect that. they were not ready for that. we are ready to give them days so that they discuss things amongst themselves. we just saw a statement by the taliban spokesperson that the past three

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securing and entrance to the hamid karzai international airport as the extremist taliban took hold of their country. staff sergeant hoover was killed by an isis case suicide attack that targetedha him, his teammates, and the surrounding innocentng civilian. staff sergeant hoover like all marines learned the marine corps' values at boot camp. those are honor and courage and commitment. he was told that being a marine and living these values does not begin or and with training or service as an active duty marine these forever guide marine decisions with their service and their entire life staff sergeant hoover lived to these values throughout his entire life he always did what he said he would do he was honest and respectful and caring and compassionate and dedicated his life to the service of others in and out of uniform. he wanted to be the best and to provide the very best for others and always willing to work hard to make that happen. his friends and family knew him as a loving and thoughtful hard-working man. he loved and dedicated to serving those around him his family and country

state could coordinate contractor security support, and also to assist turkey to maintain the hamid karzai international airport and to transition the u.s. mission to over the horizon counterterrorism sport and security force systems. it is clear, it is obvious to all of us, that the war in afghanistan did not end on the terms that we wanted. with the taliban now in power in kabul. although the neo was unprecedented and is the largest air evacuation in history, it was a tactical, operational, and logistical success evacuating 124,000 people, the war was a strategic failure. it came also at an incredible cost in the end, with 11 marines, one soldier, and a navy corpsman. these 13 gave their lives so that people they never met could have an opportunity to live in freedom. and we must remember that the taliban was and remains a terrorist organization. and they still have not broken with al qaeda. i have no allusions as to who we are dealing with. it remains to be seen whether or not the taliban can consolidate power, or whether the country will further fracture into civil war. but we must con

and karzai took the deal. states, that said such a deal was unacceptable, not to the afghans, t unacceptable to the united states, that now took it on itself, as it has so often throughout its history in so many parts of the world, to tell afghans the way their country was about to be. and everything that happened since, the 20 years of war since, has contributed on, if not quite a straight line, a kind of nausea-inducing glide path to the abject horror we're seeing at the kabul airport with people desperate to flee, desperate to, so desperate as to grab onto c-17 cargo planes and fall to their deaths. this is nothe alrnative to fighting in afghanistan, this is the result of fighting in afghanistan. amy: so, if you could take it back even farther, to the u.s.-backed mujahideen, to the u.s.-backed osama bin laden, and talk about what happened when the u.s. decided to fund the mujahideen in fighting against the soviet occupation of afghanistan, and then the mujahideen turning their, setting, literally, their gun

on august 206th on his first deployment, he stood guard at the hamid karzai airport in afghanistan. he protected the airport as the allies escaped to safety. his mission savedet thousands of lives. while riley was protecting others, he was killed by a terrorist bomb. riley had just been married in february. his wife was expecting their first child and he was excited to become a father. this child will never know riley but his child will always know that her father was a hero. on friday i stood side-by-side. the casket was brought home for his very last trip to wyoming. and today i got a text from gg with this magnificent picture the text came within the last hour or so they were able to do a picture as the navy hospital welcomed baby girl levi rose 8 pounds 10 ounces september 13, today at 2 a.m. there's the baby and there is the cutout of her father, riley mccollum. madam president, people all across america have shown their love and respect and appreciation and admiration for riley and his family. people have already donated close to a million dollarsam to help gg and the baby and

that means that they gave him approval not to push the perimeter at karzai international airport out, means that after a 13 dead great americans out there when we could have pushed the perimeter out. the largest loss of life since 2011. they own that. and they actually own a great debacle. we lost this war. we have walked away. we ran away in the middle of the night. the great soldiers, sailors on the ground did an incredible service on the ground of evacuated that many people. somebody needs to be held accountable. you can't walk away from it. those two individuals are part of the group that needs to be held accountable. >> martha: general kellogg, thank you. a lot to think about as we head into this long weekend as you say. i don't think it's going to be for gotten on the other side of it. thank you as always. >> thank you. >> martha: coming up, dr. marc siegel joins us with an interesting take on masks for kids and whether it's safe to travel over this labor day weekend. he's next. so, you have diabetes, here are some easy rules. no sugar. no pizza. no foods you love. stressed? no

some of the leaders, political leaders that we have all known over the years, including president karzai president karzai, doctor abdullah, they have also reached out to many other of the political constituency, and the social and ethnic constituency of the country. they have, over the years, spoken to other afghans, but now we are in a different place. they are in the seat of power, and they are the ones who will have to decide, and in order to do so, let's not forget, they also have to be of the same mind themselves. so, if there are still differences within the taliban movement, that means that it is going to cause issues, when there is probably an extreme way and a more moderate way, we'll have to resolve the issues first, before others can easilyjoin them. before others can easily 'oin them. ., ~ ,, before others can easily 'oin them. ., ~ ., , ., them. thank you for bringing to bear our them. thank you for bringing to bear your expertise _ them. thank you for bringing to bear your expertise on - them. thank you for bringing to bear your expertise on the - bear your expertise on the

on august 26, on his first deployment, he stood guard at the ha mid -- at the karzai airport and protected our allies as they escaped to safety. his mission saved thousands of lives. while rylee was protecting others, he was killed by a terrorist bomb. now, rylee had just been married in february. his wife is expecting their first child and he was excited to become a father. his child will never know rylee, yet his child will always know that rylee mccollum, her father, was a hero. on friday, i stood side by side with rylee and his family and his wife gigi at the airport in jackson, wyoming, as rylee's flag-draped casket was brought home for his very last trip to wyoming. and today i got a text from gigi with this magnificent picture. the text came within the last hour or so and we were able to do a blowup of the texted picture, welcome baby girl levi rylee rose, 6-pounds, 10-ounces today, september 13, at 2:00 a.m. there's the baby and there's the cutout of her father rylee mccollum. people in wyoming and all across america have shown their respect and appreciation and admiration for ryle

quote hamid karzai's fraudulent reelection worsened a delusion of corruption that involved afghanistann 2009 and 2010. dark money cascaded over the country, money launderers loved suitcases loaded with a million dollars or more on flights leaving kabul so crooked businessmen and politicians could stash their ale gotten fortunes offshore. >> now house republican leaders take questions on democrat's efforts to raise the debt ceiling and continue funding the federal government past the fiscal year. they also discuss democratic spending proposals. the leaders are joined by budget committee ranking member jason smith and appropriations chair kay granger.

hamid karzai would reach out to different factions, and they might be able to come to the internationalmunity and say, we have a government that stands for afghanistan. where does this leave the country and taliban? >> it's very old-school, isn't it? it is as if they start and go back where they left off 20 years ago as if nothing has changed, as if they have no further developments and have not considered what happened in the last 20 years. it is as if they go back as if nothing happens. the internal cohesion is something that concerns them. they brought back the old guys from those years in the late 90's. internal power struggles are happening in the taliban. i agree we are seeing a taliban that would rather keep internal struggles under control then to get the country going. host: people were closely monitoring whether the taliban would have a shia ?hazara in the government. that also did not happen. do we think this is something that could strain relations with iran? >> i'm not concerned about iran. iran wants security, safety in the country, and the discipline the taliban has shown

as you know, at no time were our forces really away from hamid karzai international airport. there was nobody there on the ground to play that role. you can see from the graphic that the position of the strike was three or four kilometers to the west, so there was nobody, either us or a proxy of ours, that was involved in this. >> that includes special operation forces? general mckenzie: exclusively. >> can you talk about the challenges of conducting these drone strikes without or since on the ground? general mckenzie: we had conducted strikes two days earlier at the kandahar province. i think it had a significant effect on dislocating and suppressing isis-k's ability to attack us during this time. we actually had success with that. this one, we did not have success with, and we have been very about owning up to our responsibility in this regard. john: we've got time for just a couple more. >> thank you. since there are no more u.s. forces on the ground, how would the payments be provided to surviving family members, if they are provided? and then i know you walked us through

army lieutenant colonel inside the wall at hamid karzai international airport and we're trying to getitizens, green cardholders and sivs, people hold a special immigrant visa. they worked with us over the 20 years. and it is right outside. the lieutenant colonel says if i could reach through this gate i can touch the bus they're on. mike and i were on the phone. he called the white house. mike got the white house general counsel i talked to the president. it will be open. five minutes later there is one of these phony calls that there is going to be an imminent attack, everybody spread out, get away from the gates. that kind of thing happened dozens of time. it wasn't the real attack. in fact the real attack that killed last 13 americans killed in this long war, had no warning coming for it. that is the kind of thing happened repeatedly throughout this. they wanted accountability, the families, gold star families all of them deserve accountability. maria: absolutely. they sure do. they're in our prayers every day. what about, what about these flights going out of afghanistan? it was s

she also secured nbc's first interview with president hamid karzai. our next panelist work for the baltimore sun. it is current role with npr, tom has traveled to iraq and made dozens of trips to afghanistan. he embedded with united states marines. in 2010, congress gave him the edward r. murrow award for his coverage of a roadside bombing. next is kathy bannon. she serves as the director of afghanistan for the associated press. she's been a bureau chief since 1988. in the weeks before the 2001 u.s. f guinness and bruce offensive. she was the only western journalists allowed in kabul by the taliban. she was seriously wounded when an afghan police officer opened fire on the afghan convoy she was riding in. she is also the author of the book i is for infidel. finally, we are joined by the chairman and ceo of the mobi group, afghanistan's largest private media group, and the first 24/7 media network. it owns the news network and continues to report and broadcast since the taliban's retaking of control. he has been recognized by time magazine among its on

after hamid karzai _ telephone's again. . correct. after hamid karzai was _ telephone's again. .amid karzai was put in _ telephone's again. . correct. after hamid karzai was put in because l telephone's again. . correct. after hamid karzai was put in because i | hamid karzai was put in because i was not only very pro—british and pro—american but he was very faux indian. he had been to school in indian. he had been to school in india and spoke very good hindi and when we had him at the jaipur literature festival he spoke to the audience perfectly and started singing bollywood songs at the audience and he has that charm and ability and this is certainly being seenin ability and this is certainly being seen in pakistan as a victory for the intelligence services and the long—term run of the country which now has pakistan in a massive debt chap which is china and china's yesterday allowed stitches giving free vaccines to taliban afghanistan. —— yesterday announced. never manger minerals being announced and the opening copper mines and whatever this new government does and they acknowl

you won't see a former senior afghan politician like hamid karzai or dr.ullah abdullah, who had been negotiating with the taliban. you won't see them in a leadership position. you might see one of the former conservative politicians, actually a former prime minister in the country back in the mid-'90s, somebody who is perhaps slightly more ideologically aligned with the taliban. he could be a non-taliban member in that government. but also what's being spoken about here and in pakistan at least is the possibility of a family member of somebody like hamid karzai or dr. abdullah abdullah or son, something like that, being in the government. but the reality is unless they get a strong influential position in the government, it's not going to look particularly inclusive to the west. you know, as the g7 nations hold so much power over the imf and the imf having frozen afghanistan's assets, that's going to be a tough -- you know, a tough point of call for the international community. mullah baradar expected to take a leadership position, the commander of the fai

an international flight operated by qatar airways that took off from hamid karzai airport has landed, and on board were 112 passengers including americans. joining us on the phone from doha is foreign correspondent ralph sanchez and with me is washington post editor david ig ignatius. and so ralph, you had to move around and tell us about what you know about the passengers on board? >> yes, geoff, this is extraordinary, because we watched the tired but happy people coming down the steps here in doha. they have had a heck of a day if you think about it. they started off in kabul, and passed through the airport controlled by the taliban, that is threatened still by this day by isis-k, and the same airport where they carried out the suicide bombing, and ending it this evening in the relative safety of doha, qatar, and we caught up with some of the people passing through immigration. just because they are physically safe, their journeys are far from over, and the people did not know what was in store next for them. we spoke to a canadian father there with his 6-year-old daughter, but his

>> you know, i dealt with hamid karzai in afghanistan and he is despicable. he is a significant part of the reason why there was no american public support for this war. i also think that when we have an 18th century notion of diplomacy in the public dialogue right now. we already recognize the taliban and we're dealing with them in do happen. general don hugh in the military dealt with them day after day and we need to get an interest section back. and the haqqanis are terrorists more than jihadists and that's who they are. if we want to work deliberately on getting hundreds of thousands of afghans out who identify with democracy, freedom, individual rights and women's rights then we have to get on the ground. and courtney, you were just as we approach this 20th anniversary this weekend, you were just at fort drum in new york state with the tenth mountain division. they were first in and last out. you talked to some of those soldiers. share that with us. >> that's right. so specifically, this was the 4th battalion 34th infantry regiment known as the polar be

one said contained an isis bomb and an imminent threat to karzai airport. but "the new york times" says that drone likely targeted an innocent man and his family. we asked tony blinken about the struk at yesterday's hearing. here is that interaction the strike happened when there were a lot of eyes on kabul. it is not unusual for u.s. drone strikes to kill civilians. it is not unusual for the u.s. government to claim it killed terrorists instead. how can you possibly ensure us that our drone strikes and over the horizon capabilities will actually reach their targets? >> that is being looked at very, very, very carefully by others in the administration. so that we understand exactly what happened. or what didn't happen. >> joining me now is one of the reporters who broke this story, evan hill, a journalist on "the new york times" visual investigations team. first off, walk us through the process of reporting this story. how did you manage to fact check and get to the conclusion that you guys have? >> thanks for having me. this was a story that began with twe

as you know, no time were our forces really away from hamed karzai air field. there was nobody there on the ground to have to play that role. you can see from the graphic that the position of the strike was three to four kilometers to the west of hkia. >> that include special operations forces? >> explicitly. >> can you talk about the challenges of the drone strikes without troops on the ground? >> we conducted a successful strike in nangarhar province. we got the target. that had a significant on dislocated and suppressing isis-k's ability to attack us during this period of time. so we actually had success with that. this one we did not have success with and we've been very clear about owning up to our responsibility. >> lucas, you had three weeks. we've got time for a couple more. tara? >> thank you. general mckenzie, tara kopp with defense one. since there's no more u.s. forces on the grounds, how would payment be provided to family members if they're provided and i know you walked us through the timeline at the beginning of this. can you give us the overall

as you know, no time were our forces really away from karzai international airfield. there was nobody there on the ground to play that role. you can see from the graphic the position of the strike was three to four kilometers west, so there was nobody, us or proxy of ours involved. >> including special operations forces? >> explicitly. >> can you talk about challenges conducting the drone strikes without any u.s. troops on the ground? >> so we conduct successful drone strike two days earlier and got the target and i think that had a significant event on dislocating and suppressing isis-k's ability to attack us during this period of time. so we actually had success with that. this one we did not have success with, and we have been clear about owning up to our responsibility in this regard. >> we've got time for a couple more. >> thank you. general mckenzie, tara cop with defense one. since there are no u.s. forces on the ground, how would the payments be provided to surviving family members if they are provided, and i know you walked us through timeline at the beginnin

karzai, but many of the afghan political elite, they just didn't see this war as we saw it. defining this problem as a war against terrorists. if this is a war that's going to be fought on my territory, where you're bombing my villages when really the threat is across the border, i can't support you. and yet that conversation was lost. >> what was your reaction when you read ambassador eikenberry's statement, when you saw that it had leaked, and do you disagree with it? >> i was not aware it was being written. it was sent to me from the chairman, and i didn't agree with it. i think he was the strategic partner we had. >> the next 18 months will likely be decisive and ultimately enable success. >> despite the doubts around town, general mcchrystal moved forward with his plan. >> we can and will accomplish this mission. >> and president obama signed off on a 30,000-troop surge, 10,000 fewer than requested, and it came with an expiration date. >> after 18 months, our troops will begin to come home. >> i advised against the withdrawal date, but then president obama asked me if i

they've been holding meetings with senior political figures, like former president, hamid karzai, bute willing to really share power. their elusive leader, mullah hibatullah, may well be declared leader of an islamic emirate. these, new pictures of some of the final us troops to be withdrawn from afghanistan, the focus now is on what they've left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. for more on how inclusive the new government in afghanistan is likely to be, here's our chief international correspondent, lyse doucet. well, there is this magical word of inclusive that is being used by afghanistan as neighbours to put pressure on the taliban to try and share some of the powers so they don't have absolute control. a look at it in pure political terms. the taliban of come to power much more quickly than even they expected. they now control more territory in afghanistan than they were in power in the 1990s. so, they feel they have an overwhelming mandate to pursue their overriding objective and that is to use words like government cabinet, their objective is to establish an islamic sy

they have been in talks with hamid karzai and other leaders of various minority groups but the extentthose groups will be included in very high level positions within the government, what they called for example the power ministry, the security services et cetera, seems doubtful at this point. i think there was hope early on in this discussion given the taliban gush and about inclusivity —— discussions. i am about inclusivity —— discussions. iam much about inclusivity —— discussions. i am much more sceptical now. the taliban faced the challenge between trying to be inclusive and trying to be inclusive and trying to be inclusive and trying to bring other groups into the fold so they do not have challenges from them while maintaining internal cohesion and that they have many, many hardliners internal to the organisation who have taken to the victor go the spoils mentality. the victor go the spoils mentality-— the victor go the spoils mentality. the victor go the spoils mentali . ., ., mentality. thank you for your inut mentality. thank you for your input and _ mentality. thank you for y

they have been in talks with hamid karzai, other leaders of various minority groups, but the extent toom those groups would be included in very high level positions within the government, what they call for example, the power ministries, the foreign ministry, the security services et cetera, seems doubtful at this point. i think there was hope early on in this discussion, given the taliban statements about inclusivity, that we might see some of those individuals in high—level positions. i'm much more sceptical that we're going to see that now. if only because the taliban face the challenge between trying to be inclusive and trying to bring other groups into the fold so that they don't have challenges from them while also maintaining their internal cohesion and they have many, many hardliners, internal to the organisation, who have taken a to the victor go the spoils type mentality. drjonathan schroden there. an expert on the taliban and works at the cna as an analyst. let's get some of the day's other news. a former roman catholic cardinal has gone on trial in the united states on char

helped by the cia, karzai rode into afghanistan on the back of a motorcycle and became president. >>by heart. they came out and voted. women came back to the workplace. afghanistan once again became the home for all afghans. >> so these early days, it sounds like there was a glory period when things were doing well. >> absolutely a glory period. >> i came to kabul immediately after the fall of taliban. >> she was one of the first women elected to the new democratic parliament in kabul. >> the city was completely destroyed. all these buildings, you could go around kabul, you couldn't see a building that was not destroyed or not damaged. but people were so happy and hopeful. we could breathe, not because there was fresh air, but because there was no oppression, and everybody was hoping for a completely bright and different future for themselves. >> there was no terrorism. as a matter of fact, probably for the first probably 12 months or 18 months, so it felt very safe. >> saad, an afghan-born investment banker rushed home as soon as the taliban were toppled. >> i don't think there was

spoke to some of the, kind of, the old guard of the regime that had departed, including the president karzai although the fighting has begun again there. was it all just show? well i personally am not qualified to make thatjudgment. i don't know the current makeup of the taliban. but the other day in a public event i interviewed jonathan powell, tony blair's chief of staff in number ten who was, of course, there when britain was part of the 2001 autumnal invasion of afghanistan and since leaving office has worked very closely with all kinds of people in afghanistan and continues to do so. and he told me that it is absolutely the case that there is an expedient wing in the taliban leadership and that that is not for show, that like all political forces, there are great internal divisions, and he was saying, and i repeat this with a kind of approval, if you like, because he's...and i'm not that there is a responsibility to engage. he thinks it was a big mistake not to engage with the taliban in 2001. actually to engage with the taliban and try and engage with what he sees as the pragmatic wing

they've been holding meetings with senior political figures, like former president, hamid karzai, butthey're willing to really share power. their elusive leader, mullah hibatullah, may well be declared leader of an islamic emirate. these, new pictures of some of the final us troops to be withdrawn from afghanistan, the focus now is on what they've left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. for more on how inclusive the new government in afghanistan is likely to be, here's our chief international correspondent, lyse doucet. well, there is this magical word of inclusive that is being used by afghanistan as neighbours to put pressure on the taliban to try and share some of the powers so they don't have absolute control. a look at it in pure political terms. the taliban of come to power much more quickly than even they expected. they now control more territory in afghanistan than they were in power in the 1990s. so, they feel they have an overwhelming mandate to pursue their overriding objective and that is to use words like government cabinet, their objective is to establish an isla

they've been holding meetings with senior political figures, like former president, hamid karzai, butt whether they're willing to really share power. their elusive leader, mullah hibatullah, may well be declared leader of an islamic emirate. these, new pictures of some of the final us troops to be withdrawn from afghanistan, the focus now is on what they've left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. live to kabul and our chief international correspondent lyse doucet. the taliban and talk about an inclusive government, how inclusive will that be in your view?— will that be in your view? there is the magical _ will that be in your view? there is the magical word _ will that be in your view? there is the magical word of— will that be in your view? there is the magical word of inclusive, - will that be in your view? there is the magical word of inclusive, it l will that be in your view? there is| the magicalword of inclusive, it is the magical word of inclusive, it is being used by afghanistan's neighbours to put pressure on the taliban, to share some of the power so they don't have

they've been holding meetings with senior political figures, like former president, hamid karzai, but're willing to really share power. their elusive leader, mullah hibatullah, may well be declared leader of an islamic emirate. these, new pictures of some of the final us troops to be withdrawn from afghanistan, the focus now is on what they've left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. ibraheem bahiss is a consultant with crisis group's asia programme. he assesses peace and conflict developments in afghanistan, and joins me now from melbourne. your thoughts on the new government, who might be in it and their priorities?— and their priorities? thank ou. and their priorities? thank yom the _ and their priorities? thank you. the information - and their priorities? thank you. the information that| and their priorities? thank. you. the information that is coming out on the side of the taliban still remains murky. we haven't really got a full picture of what this new political order or dispensation is going to look like. information seems to be getting funnelled in a careful way but wh

quote: hamid karzai's fraudulent re-election worsened a deluge of corruption that engulfed afghanistan dark money cascaded over the country. money launderers left suitcases loaded with a million dollars or more on flights leaving kabul so crooked businessmen and politicians could stash their ill-gotten fortunes offhere, unquote. we asked mr. whitlock to expand on this and other stories from his book, "the afghanistan papers." >> washington post investigative reporter craig whitlock on this week's episode of "book notes plus." you can listen to all of our podcasts on our new c-span now app. ♪

they've been holding meetings with senior political figures, like former president, hamid karzai, butthey're willing to really share power. their elusive leader, mullah hibatullah, may well be declared leader of an islamic emirate. these, new pictures of some of the final us troops to be withdrawn from afghanistan, the focus now is on what they've left behind. secunder kermani, bbc news, kabul. drjonathan schroden is the director of cna corporation's countering threats and challenges program, which supports the us government in countering state and non—state threats. hejoins me now from washington dc. thank you forjoining us. do you think the taliban has changed its spots? i don't think there _ changed its spots? i don't think there is _ changed its spots? i don't think there is evidence . changed its spots? i don't think there is evidence of| changed its spots? i don't - think there is evidence of that just yet. i mean, they are a changed organisation in some ways. they have different personnel in some places and some positions now than they did when they were in power backin did whe

afghanistan in november of 2001 when we started fighting the taliban and al qaeda, advising howard karzaid came across the horrors, they would kill kids for flying kites and women for teaching their children, they would still women and hank men and do all kinds of things, we are not seeing it, that is how they roll and they go into villages at night and go into people's houses and kill them so they are not to be trusted. they are violent extremist terrorist organizations. to think you could ever do anything with them is completely impossible. you can't trust them or take them at their word. that is white has been in a dedicated disaster not only at the policy level a diplomatic level but the military level as well. jillian: the military trying to -- get every american out of there. what are they up against? some perform these operations for years. >> i am heartbroken when i hear their voices over facebook, messenger and get constant notes please help me, please help me. i write a letter, give them a letter with my name on it hoping it will get them some sort of assistance on the ground bu

recommendations in tehran is to keep the options open, talk to everyone, talk to anyone , talk to karzai, talk to anyone including the taliban. because you don't know what will happen in terms of the coming weeks and months, the situation is so polluted -- fluid. one thing you do here -- you do hear being recommended again and again from the official level and among the community of scholars looking at afghanistan and tehran is the need to push the taliban and those that support the taliban to accept the need for what they call a new course of government and that is a code for minorities to be included. this is a big question, will taliban want to do it all along? some of the names being mentioned at the core government , cashew figures does not , suggest an inclusive government is in the making. the new taliban wants to go it alone, and that would mean a civil war. i just have to emphasize, this is being said very carefully. they do not want to upset the taliban. they still want to see what happens if this taliban has , really changed from the taliban that iran dealt with in the 1990's,

hopes -- ron klain says he hopes the qataris are able the get the flights off the ground at the hamid karzai airport, but hope is not a strategy. the taliban promised they would be allowed to leave. we are talking about a hostage crisis today. but this hostage crisis started three weeks ago when it became obvious the taliban was taking over the country and the administration was going to stick to that august 31 deadline before they were able to get everybody out. that woman was 14 steps from the airport. she turn around and left for the taliban to take care of and negotiate with. that's a hostage crisis. you can't tell me the taliban is going to be disciplined here. we should pray this doesn't get much, much worse. i'm concerned about one of these guys who is a member of the taliban having a lack of discipline and getting angry. god forbid that happens. but the idea that hope is a strategy for the qataris to handle getting these people out is an abysmal failure of leadership and highlights the weakness of our position. reporter: it certainly does. joey, president biden and press secretary je

the terror attack, that took place at the karzai international airport, andpr tok the lives of 13 servicereasure after joe biden needlessly put them in harm's way, and despite the lies from the biden administration about the taliban being so businesslikebo and professional, we are seeingo the grim look at the taliban, we showed you the video of women being beaten, why? how they unmitigated all to freely demonstrate in kabul. we documented the massive human rights abuses against innocent men, women, children and afghanistan, those that are standing up for the rights after being up by abandoned by joe biden.gh and now america, it may be once again facing a new terror threat andd of course that would mean a new era of islamic radical extremism. and the taliban, they are doing even more to embarrass america on the world stage. reportedly now holding their so-called government inauguration day on that's right, 9/11. and just look at the new ad from the senate g.o.p. entitled 20 years later, america abandon. take a look. >> last night the united states brought the world number one terrorist lea

we panicked by closing in on karzai international airport without expanding the perimeter that was there said you can take the time you want to get out. that's the instinct i would have had. i don't think the president is commander-in-chief and he made that decision and wanted them to do that. here is the second part of this and it's very, very important and the concern i've got. this shows strategic incompetence at the senior level that sets a pattern. it goes back to eight years when he was the vice president and current nsa is the current one when he vice president. the comments made by bob gates about him and comments made by former president obama about him as well. what this means is the next time there is going to be a crisis -- i guarantee there will be a crisis, dana can confirm that and karl rove can confirm that. you have a crisis in the white house and it will come from somewhere you don't expect it to arrive and you better be ready to handle that in a moment's notice and it's setting a pattern that these guys are not ready to play ball at the strategic level. to me they don'

he said they had received 60 different intelligence reports of an imminent attack on hamid karzai internationala u.s. official earlier told us they had been monitoring intelligence from an isis safe house. the drone strike came just days before when the isis suicide bomber took 170 service members and afghans. and they went about the daily routine believing he was load explosives into the car when he in fact was lifting containers of water into the vehicle. when he pulled into the family compound a u.s. official with knowledge of the operation told cnn that drone operators watched the car for 45 minutes before taking the shot. they then realized there were three children in the compounds. we have now learned with further analysis, the u.s. admits there were even more children in the vicinity of the drone strike. a total seven children were killed. general mckenzie said there will be a review of policies and procedures that led to the strike that took the lives-ten innocent civilians and that they are looking for compensation for the family. christi, boris. >> anna coren, thank you for reporting