by the end of this summer, thanks to john kasich and the republican legislature there will not be 13ics left. ultimately this new republican law is expected to whittle down the number of clinics in the state of ohio to maybe eight? half of them gone. you think they'll stop there? since the november election, so less than a year, republicans in state governments have been passing laws to shut down abortion clinics from coast to coast. texas had 42 clinics that provided abortion services. republicans passed new restrictions this summer that will probably shut down 37 of those 42 clinics. wisconsin had four clinics. republican governor in wisconsin is slated to bring that number from four town to two. mississippi has just the one clinic in jackson. that one, the republicans are fighting to close that one down as well and it seems like they may be close to doing it. in north dakota, same deal. there's one clinic for the whole great big state. this spring republicans passed a law that aims to shut down that one last clinic. in alabama, there are five clinics that provide abortion services

i want people to be suited up and ready to get in the game, not sitting on the bench. >> kasich agreesith those kind of reforms but he was willing to spend some money. and the model is if you have tax incentives the economy grows, you're going to get a few spare bucks into the budget and you can allocate that. going back to paul ryan, distinguished budget chairman, former vice presidential candidate, going back -- >> and good friend of mine. >> yes. from the -- >> fellow cheesehead. >> going back to eric cantor, the republican party is trying to send and develop a message that they are interested in helping the lost lambs, that they are a party that looks after the truly needy and the poor. will that be an ongoing theme? can they sell that? it goes beyond hispanics. it's african-american reach-out, asian reach-out. >> it's an important issue to swing voters. >> is this a permanent shift in the party? >> absolutely. and it's about being aspirational. one of the big mistakes that people looked at after the november election was this talk about how it should be us versus them, the 47% and

scott walker in wisconsin, john cassive -- kasich in ohio. a lot of peesm who want that. so i would not put any money on who the republican nominee is going to be. the party has to work out a lot of its ideological disagreements between now and then. amy: is it even relevant for us to be talking about this in 2016? it's 2013. we'll keep doing that. all right. before we go tonight, we remember the passing of a legendary journalist. jack gerromond was a columnist in washington for half a century. his stock in trade was reporting on and chronicling presidential campaigns dating back to the johnson-goldwater race of 1964. many of them -- he was also a staple on the mclaughlin group for 15 years. jack germond what was 85. our thoughts go out to his family and former colleagues. that's it for tonight. this reminder, our webcast extra is streamed live 8:30 p.m. eastern where we'll hear more from indira on her interview with iraq's foreign minister, who's asking the u.s. for drone support in fighting al qaeda and iraq. you can find us on our website. pbs.org/washingtonweek. i'm a

governor kasich in ohio signed new restrictions on reproductive rights. governor in maine, education andy, a included state funding for religious schools. list goes on and on. far right republican governor implementing agendas. north carolina, its governor, pat mccrory promised if he won, which he did last november, he wouldn't sign any new abortion restrictions into law. he did just that putting his signature on a bill last month that tucked those restrictions into a motorcycle safety measure. this week mccrory signed a bill into law that takes voter suppression to a whole new level. north carolina's new voter law requires government issue voter id at the poll, reducing the period by one week, ends sunday voting and same day registration. it doesn't get more radical than that. with me again columbia university professor dorian warren, nation magazine contributing writer arrie berman and editor writer robert george. i'm going to cow in a minute you did call north carolina voting law the worst in the nation. i promised to start with christina. do we have a

> i had done another story about the death of the middle class in ohio in the run-up to governor kasich'sudget cuts that he was doing, so i stopped by a warehouse at one of my ex- girlfriends from college was running. i did not have an agenda. i just want her to look at it, and i was shocked at the conditions. i come from a labor background, worked for years in moving and storage, worked as a mover in warehouses, and i could not believe how tough and dehumanizing and low paying these positions were. my friend, who is a really nice person, was sort of a monster. i was there for 20 minutes and she was firing people for going to the bathroom, talking to each other, even though they've worked while they did it, but those were the orders that she had. if she want to keep her job, she had to enforce it. gigantics sector is and continuing to grow, we decided to dedicate a story to it. >> tell us about the plant, your first day, the days beyond that? isbasically, every day running from the moment you get in the door. goals andspecific they are very hard and fast to me. you walk in the door, you g

we he have kasich in ohio.have got a whole sear regions of top notch governors and then you have got jeb bush who was a great governor in florida two terms. my sense which one of those governors evolved. chris christie a frontrunner and raise money an viable candidate. whoever wins that against the washington establishment i think comes out basically a much better candidate. >> chris plant, i think he is saying rand paul is a washington establishment. >> came in as revolutionary. he is being framed that way. and he really is at this point versus the establishment republican party. a very revolutionary voice right now in washington, d.c. which is rather absurd on some level. but as a libertarian voice, i think that if you are looking at going up against hillary clinton, i think rand paul is the stark contrast. he is the bright colors. he is not the pale pastels. i think christie is a nice guy. i'm not a chris christie basher. he is the run of the mill establishment, you know, big government. >> laura: i remember

his budget looks like that of walker or john kasich.his guy is as right wing as the rest of the crowd. he just doesn't sound like it. >> right. right. >> that's the thing that he's doing to try to still be able to be competitive and win this primary, but, you know, the gun problem is a big problem for him. >> if you were still an obama-not, if you were still in the obama administration and president obama had the opportunity to run for a third term, is chris christie the republican you'd be most worried about putting him up against? >> what i think is rand paul is going to be his nominee. he starts with huge advantages on fund-raising. if it's hillary clinton, any other democrat, it's going to be a generational type landslide election because rand paul is obviously a lunatic. >> i don't think rand paul is going to get the nomination. it's kind of like rick perry in 20 -- we're talking about 2016. this is bad. in 2012, it's like rick perry, he on paper looked like the guy, but like rick perry, rand paul doesn't know what he's talking abo

he may not sound like kasich or christie but it is the same effect and it constantly takes the onus offhe wealthy and puts on it working people. >> he says the next mayor if it is union friendly, fees will go up. if you were elected, are you going to be union friendly? >> absolutely. i believe the labor movement of the city is not only working in the interests of the people a lot of folks don't get paid so well. i wish it was facetious. some even live in the shelter. there are city workers who are not paid enough that they can make ends meet in new york city. some even live in a shelter. of course they're doing their job. >> has the mayor kicked the can down the road? he has protected the wealthy in the city and he is not going to the level of fairness needed to keep one the expenses. >> for a guy who likes to talk about fiscal responsibility, he is the first mayor in our history to leave every city labor contract unresolved simultaneously which puts our future in danger. >> all part of the plan. >> it could be. it is part of his legacy to avoid the tough decisions on the contracts so h

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and the politicians that stand with them like ken cuccinelli in virginia and like governor kasich inhio that voters have a right to know that these politicians support these centers that intimidate women and lie to them. and they're often doing it with taxpayer dollars. >> now i want to play a little more of the audio for people to hear. listen to this one. this is another part of the undercover audio from that crisis pregnancy center. listen to this. >> any time an innocent life is ended on purpose, that's called murder. there are so many lives destroyed by abortion. not only the woman, but anyone who she has a relationship with. it has the ability to completely destroy a woman's self-esteem, you know. hey, i just killed my kid. what kind of a person am i. you will face that child again one day. at the end of the world, you're going to know that was my child that i chose to kill. >> now elise, we all are entitled to our opinion. but can you imagine some woman that is a victim of rape or incest being told this kind of stuff? >> no. it's unimaginable. it's unthinkable. it's also reall

governor kasich took the medicaid expansion, but another governor might not.t's your thought on that as far as why some are doing it. is it smart? not smart? >> i'm dubious about it first of all because medicaid is second class health care and highly prescriptive from the federal level. one state was given permission to enact a very interesting plan and rather than giving medicaid as a government benefit and to have a whole series of other regulatory freedoms that are not allowed to any other state, and this experiment has worked mightily in rhode island. the state is spending about the same amount of money that it was in 2008, which is, you know, the rest of the country spending a lot more per capita on medicaid. it's spending about the same or slightly less. and yet, it's providing additional services. and the state is able to manage the case load, and it's able to manage its own budget, which is exactly what we ought to be trying to do, which is to allow, provide flexibility to the state so they can solve the particular needs of their state in a way that mi

governor kasich in ohio, took the expansion but another governor might not.hought on that on why some are doing it, is it smart or not smart? >> i'm dubious about it. medicaid is second class health care. second of all, it's highly partnership tiff from the federal level. we do have evidence that if states are given flexibility in it, the state of rhode island was given flexibility in the closing days of the bush administration to implement an interesting plan to basically take the value of medicaid and rather than give it as a government benefit to allow individuals to access that money for private benefit and to have a whole series of other regulatory freedoms that are not allowed to any other state and this experiment worked mightily in rhode island, the state is spending about the same amount of monday that i it was in 2008, which is the rest of the country is spending a lot more per capita on medicaid, it's spending about the same or slightly less and yet it's providing additional services and the state is able to manage the case load and it's able to ma

kasich how governor john or scott walker, or susana martinez, and others were vilified when they first came into office when they started to, on the heels of this recession, put in place the principles that they argued about and argued for as candidates and as public servants in the past. there reality is that people began to see the proof was in the pudding. they began to experience, directly, the rational impact of the policy. so, the irrationality falls away. everybody thought scott walker would get kicked out on his keister for adopting and pushing the policies he was pushing until people saw they were working and beginning to have a positive impact on the economy there, just that the time just -- just as they were going to the polls to recall him. for republicans, the proof is in the pudding. you good with the leadership we have in place -- look at what the leadership we have them places doing. talk about our solutions for a city like detroit. democratad 60 years of control in that city, so the proof is in the pudding. you can backup 60 years of irrational policy with a rational a

if you had a democratic budget, if bill clinton had a democratic budget, guess what, john kasich hadicans liked. if bill clinton was raising taxes, we had an alternative on what taxes needed to be cut. if we didn't like what hillary clinton was doing on health care, there was two, three, four, five alternatives. when we ran, not only could we win, we could govern. i talk about nilism. it is infecting the republican -- some of the people in the senate, some of the people in the house. and i'm glad that newt gingrich is saying what he's saying. because you know what, i've been saying it for years, you can't beat something with nothing. and just saying we're going to shut down the government, just saying what we're against, is not going to lead us back to winning the senate. most importantly, winning back the white house in 2016. >> okay. >> it's a positive message. i'm glad newt's saying it. >> i think it's -- all right, i'm just going to keep my mouth shut. >> it's a positive message. i'm glad newt gingrich is saying. >> i think jon has another -- >> one of the things about speaker gi