governor john kasich.nt: pursuant to the announcement of the delegation and the rules of this convention, maine, nine votes trump, 12 votes cruz, two votes kasich. ms. hudson: maryland. 38 delegates. >> madam secretary, the great state of maryland, home of the beautiful chesapeake bay, home to the old the state capitol in continuous use where george washington resigned as commander-in-chief of the continental army, birthplace of our national anthem, home of the united states naval academy, and the american league east first-place team baltimore cast all 38 of our votes for the next president of the united states, donald j. trump. [cheering and applause] mr. kent: pursuant to the announcement of the delegation and the rules of this convention, maryland, 38 votes trump. ms. hudson: massachusetts. 42 delegates with the following bound delegates. 22 trump, four cruz, eight rubio, eight kasich. secretary, the commonwealth of massachusetts, fences the veto, the state that out performed every other state but one,

i'm a kasich guy. i just cast my vote for john kasich. you heard the leader of our party announce the votes, nine for kasich, ten for rubio. the chair in a power play just deemed that all 19 would go to trump because they don't want to have any dissent although they clearly have the majority of the votes they need. this is an outrage. it's a reason why the republican party is turning off a lot of voters. >> reporter: looks like right now they are already on to georgia. what will you do next? >> we will regroup. but it's a sad difficult for ay party. i have been active for 25 years, i have been chief of staff for members of congress. on behalf of the people of washington, d.c. where trump received 13% of the vote and did not earn a single delegate on march 12, it's an embarrassment. >> reporter: what does it say about donald trump? >> i don't know. i think he's got some bad advice he's getting to squelch the votes of the district of columbia. why do they need our 19 votes when he didn't earn them on march 12? he had one of the worst run ca

kasich would be interested.y in the initial conversation, according to the sources, don jr. said kasich would be in full charge of all domestic and foreign policy and that if he agreed on, according to "the new york times" reporting, apparently this aide then asked back to don jr., well then what would mr. trump be in charge of, and the response was, well, he'd make america great again. the trump folks today saying this is absolutely entirely false. alex burns, thoughts? >> hey, brooke, think what you've seen today and for the last few days just how awkward it is for the republican party to try to unite behind donald trump. this news about the overtures from the trump campaign to governor kasich to try to bring him inside the tent clearly were not well received and turned into something of an embarrassment to this point. kasich and now ted cruz over the last few days speak in ways that their supporters see as a tacit signal that they are looking to 2020 as opposed to trying to rally the party. you've had boos fr

john kasich's people are not shooting down this story tonight. they are saying no, actually that phraseology is about 100 percent true. we were asked to be a very strong vice presidential candidate and that we turned it down, the kasich camp is saying. trump camp firing back tonight as you saw in that tweet. donald trump saying that he never asked him to be the vice president. there is confirmation that there were discussions between the two sides but donald trump says he never asked him. as you know he said when mike pence was picked he was always his number one choice. there is no that you between these two camps. you can see it in the positioning of ohio which is sort of crammed in the corner on the side. i'm surrounded by 66 strong delegates who went for john kasich. that situation isn't changing. this is a state that he desperately needs. donald trump has to win ohio. there is indications that they have reached out to the kasich camp to ask for help with organization in the state of ohio. that is not rebuffed as well. >> it's sort of interes

kasich's absence this week would be harmful to trump. >> john kasich is being petulant and driven by john weaver to embarrass his party, he's embarrassing his party in ohio. and he's violating his pledge all just because he finished third by not having -- still didn't have any dell gets and we reached out. he said we are opponents and i'm willing to work together. and the negotiations broke down because john weaver thinks that john kasich will have a better chance of being president by not disappointing donald trump. guess what? [inaudible] >> and that's a dumb, dumb, dumb thing. [inaudible question] >> we said ok, you don't want to be with us. we'll take care of the party in ohio. you want to hurt it, we'll make sure rob portman gets re-elected and we'll win ohio. >> there is no backing off on either side. john weaver, kasich's political advisor went after manaforth on a personal basis and what is it for mana fort to go after them and what is their interest? >> i find it more genuine than like the pence pick where i want party unity. trump all along said i don't care about party uni

john kasich. and maybe it's john kasich and donald trump. to have to come to their own personal decisions about how they'll proceed over the next months. i'm not going to speak for governor kasich and i respect the fact he feels strongly about the position he's taken and i think it's certainly up to him and his own personal decision about how he wants to go into these next several months. >> you know john kasich very well obviously. do you think there will be that moment? do you think they will sit down? john kasich is firm in his beliefs and he is not budging. he's not showing up to that convention because that's how he feels. do you think he will sit down with trump? >> i think he's very firm in his beliefs. i think he's a very strong principled person. i think at the end of the day they bonnet wath the same things for our country. they both understand that restoring jobs and getting people back to work is the most important thing we can do. i guess it's going to have to be up to them if they can agree they have a common goal and then come

about kasich not showing up. take a look. >> except for one or two republicans not coming to town, this city is -- >> where is john kasich? >> except for one or two. >> he's the governor of the state. >> kasich is -- he's making a big mistake. he's making a big mistake. he's hurting his state. he's embarrassing his state frankly. but most of the republicans who aren't coming -- >> so governor, the current governor is not part of your party. do you think it's a dangerous game to take on the popular sitting governor about this issue? >> i think it is. the fact is that john kasich controls the republican party in ohio. if the republican party in ohio is not united behind their presidential candidate, it's going to be very difficult for that candidate to win in november. but governor kasich is doing this out of principle. >> as a politician, out of principle, if he signed the pledge saying i will endorse whoever the nominee is and support them after this primary is over, something that they all did, shouldn't he be h

. >> new york. 95 delegates with the following bound delegates. 89 trump, six kasich. >> madam secretary, new york, the empire state and the home of donald j. trump passes. >> new york passes. >> the reason that new york has just passed is for dramatic purposes. new york state is of course donald trump's home state. they are holding off in terms of their position in the alphabetical call so that they can be the state that comes in at just the right numerical time in order to cast their vote so they can be the state that puts trump over the top to 1237 and officially clinching the nomination. >> even more catching up the person doing the passing for new york, richard nixon's son-in-law and before that, the governor of new mexico was in that famous tussle with donald j. trump during the campaign. >> north carolina, one of the fastest growing state economies under governor pat mccrory and the republican-led general assembly proudly casts our 72 votes as follows. one, dr. ben carson. six, senator marco rubio. nine for ohio governor john kasich. >> in the great conservative tradition of the o

s for nomination and john kasich and romney and kasich is the home state governor of ohio, in clevelandll week but vowed not to step foot inside the quicken loans arena unless trump fundamentally changes his ways. don't hold your breath for that. at least not good enough for kasich. fort said at mana our breakfast when asked if governor kasich's absence this week would be harmful to trump. >> john kasich is being petulant and driven by john weaver to embarrass his party, he's embarrassing his party in ohio. and he's violating his pledge all just because he finished third by not having -- still didn't have any delegates. to him.ed out donald trump said, look, we are opponents and i'm willing to work together. and the negotiations broke down because john weaver thinks that john kasich will have a better chance of being president by not supporting donald trump. guess what? [inaudible] >> and that's a dumb, dumb, dumb thing. [inaudible question] >> it is not going to hurt us. we said ok, you don't want to be with us. we'll take care of the party in ohio. you want to hurt it, we'll make sure

that has not set well with kasich and allies. that's why you're continuing to see the spat play out publicly. it's a very unusual vp offer and unusual to hear it coming out now, wolf. >> certainly is. sarah murray, thanks very much. i want to bring back our panel. our cnn political director is also with us. extraordinary bit of information we just learned. >> david and i were sitting in these seats this morning and talking about how much this incident has informed us about how the trump campaign responds to these kinds of things. we saw that they were trying to just steam roll through it. that's been their approach to over controversy. no more what's clear about releasing this, they came to the understanding this was consuming their convention and they want today lance that boil. >> the allegations of plagiarism. >> yes. >> this other issue about john kasich, presumably being offered this opportunity to be the vice presidential running mate? >> oh, well, i'm sorry i thought we were talking -- this to me, is bad blood between the

i am a kasich delegate.ence, allow people who are bound the opportunity to vote for someone else. i think a large number of them would have. mark: it is a pretty contested thing. you have people protesting your nominee, basically. what was the energy like on the floor, with the chanting back and forth? the pro trump and anti-trump forces. was it pleasant? hostile? >> i would not call it hostile. it was spirited and intense. the pro-trump forces were energetic. the anti-trump forces were equal -- they first tried to do a voice vote on the rules. if the chair had been honest and measured who was louder, the anti-trump forces were louder which is why he went to do it a second time. >> this whole thing, whoever gets elected will be the one who is least disliked. we will have to see the purpose of this convention. hopefully it is to be less disliked now than by the base. it's not that difficult to figure out what the strategy is. youan donald trump -- mentioned a couple of places, can donald trump win florida? >>

[cheers and applause] >> kasich, john kasich not here. >> pursuant to the announcement of the delegates. >> not in the room. the elephant not in the room. >> it's a smattering of applause for ohio here. >> oklahoma. 33 delegates for the following bound delegates. >> unify the party. pretty significant they can't even get the republican governor here. >> your thoughts of that first night, greta, and of what developed today in the aftermath? >> last night was fascinating. of course you had the melania and the major rim and plagiarism. but, you know, we have very short memory. something is going to happen tomorrow and we are not even going to remember. this fascinating and interesting to talk about. this campaign is so wild and woolly. something happens every single day either in this campaign or the clinton campaign and suddenly we have forgotten the last problem. >> we are going to hear from more of the children. we have a trump a night with melania trump last night. don jr. and tiffany trump tonight. >> yes, and donald trump jr. will be joining us during the hour. i assume if we hit the

and that's the police union and they made the request to governor kasich and governor kasich says it's a right within the state and constitutionally and there's nothing he can do about that but the police union says look this is something that is of great concern to us. you saw what happened in baton rouge and we would feel safer and the community would feel safer if we were allowed to ban the open carry of firearms in cuyahoga county but the governor rejected the claim saying there's nothing he can do about it. >> no doubt. they'll be on high alert all weekend long. rich, thank you. >> thank you, rich. >> well, the time is almost 20 minutes, 41 after the hour. well, indiana governor mike pence now the man of the hour. >> one of the big reasons that i chose mike and one of the reasons is party unity. i have to be honest. >> will pence really unite the party? former republican senator of massachusetts scott brown weighs in up next. the american red cross urgently needs blood and platelet donations and asks donors to schedule an appointment to give now. every two seconds someone in the u

>> i am a kasich delegate. participate in a vote of conscience, allow people who are bound the opportunity to vote for someone else. i think a large number of them would have. mark: it is a pretty contested thing. you have people protesting your nominee, basically. what was the energy like on the floor, with the chanting back and forth? was it pleasant? hostile? >> i would not call it hostile. it was spirited and intense. p forces were energetic. the anti-trump forces were if the chair had been honest and measured who was louder, the anti-trump forces were louder. that is why they went for a second time. shenanigan where four states would vote and three withdrew. >> whoever gets elected is the one that is least disliked. we will have to see what the purpose of this convention is. hopefully it is to be less disliked than he is now by the base. this is a narrow path. it is not that difficult to figure out what the strategy is. john: jenna donald trump -- can donald trump win florida? .> i have seen some polls the

governor kasich responded to you.u a chance to respond to what he said. >> i really have nothing more to say. i think that the incumbent governor of the state should be speaking whether it was a republican or democratic convention. it's his decision. this convention is moving forward. it's going to be a very good convention. the future of the party will be speaking here. we're very happy about it. >> on a day that you want to emphasize party unity and begin that, do you at all regret going after him and calling it embarrassing? >> we're moving forward. i was asked the question. i answered it. what we're talking about tonight is donald trump and we're introducing him to a niew way t the american people. >> let me ask you about what just happened on the floor about two hours ago. obviously, you successfully beat back this potential rebellion. why didn't you let the roll call happen? why did you not want to let that happen? why not let the steam out? >> first of all, it wasn't a rebellion. had nothing to do with the trum

they cast their votes for kasich. they are all in for kasich. a lot of the delegates were telling us this week that they are unhappy that trump and his team continue to bash the governor. fortier this week paul mana said the governor not endorsing trump was a dumb mistake. continued withs the ohio republican party chairman saying that people make mistakes, even really stupid ones but they can recover. kind of opening the door to having the trump people make an overture at least to play nice. kasich has very little use for donald trump. he doesn't like his message, he doesn't like his method. it is kind of antithetical to the campaign that kasich ran. use the ohio republican party does have for donald trump is if the top of the ticket is weak it could drag down the rest of the ticket. that would include incumbent u.s. senator rob portman of cincinnati. he is in a tough reelection fight against former governor ted strickland, a former governor from southeast ohio. they are really concerned and want to make sure they hold that seat. trump were tod

kasich: fantastic, that's great. gov. kasich: how is the governor doing? >> great. [inaudible conversations] >> push it anywhere on the square. see how it's changing? [laughter] >> do you mind if we get a photo? it. thank you so much. >> let me take it right here. gov. kasich: there it is. >> old-fashioned camera. >> thank you so much. gov. kasich: thank you. [inaudible conversations] to drag you going behind me, so. -- >> i'm going to drag you behind me, so area -- so. >> thank you. >> thank you. [inaudible conversations] gov. kasich: great, thank you. yeah, of course. >> this is my sister. gov. kasich: my goodness. romney's everywhere the look. [indiscernible] >> this is better. [indiscernible] gov. kasich: tell my wife that. [laughter] [inaudible conversations] bba?y, what's the your example that was past couple of years ago in michigan? gov. kasich: very, very close. >> this time next year or bust. we've got to give them an excuse to say no. i should have been talking about that a little bit more. >> can i get a picture here? 1, 2, 3. [inaudible conversations] >

[cheers and applause] [instrumental music] - kasich? [applause] what about kasich?ntroduce kasich? - it must be so noisy in here. yes, yes. we're gonna introduce ohio governor john kasich. - yeah. - the moderators are facing the stage and they still couldn't tell the difference between an empty podium and john kasich. trump's bailing on the last debate before iowa because he doesn't like the moderator, fox news's megyn kelly. obviously, they have a history. it started at the first gop debate when last august, she asked him this. - you've called women you don't like "fat pigs," "dogs," "slobs," and "disgusting animals." you once told a contestant on "celebrity apprentice" it would be a pretty picture to see her on her knees. does that sound to you like the temperament of a man we should elect as president? - "hell yes it does," said millions of americans. now, to me, this is the sort of question--tough but fair-- that makes megyn kelly one of the most fearsome anchors out there. but not everyone feels that way. - she's a third-rate reporter. whoever even heard of her

one vote, governor kasich. six, senator ted cruz.nt of the united states donald j. trump! [ cheers and applause ] >> right now we are waiting for nevada. that's the next state to make it official. we are about to get new york state. that's when they want to go over the top, 1237. that's the number of delegates you need to become the nominee. the new york state delegation presumably will have donald trump go over the top. donald trump, jr., the son of the nominee -- let's listen in. >> nevada, 14 vote, trump. six votes, cruz. seven vote, rubio. one vote, kasich and two votes, carson. >> new hampshire, 23 delegates for the following bound delegates, 11, trump. >> madam secretary, my name is corey lewandowski. i represent the people of the great state of new hampshire. the live free or die state. a state that has no sales or income tax, and a state that was the first to recognize donald j. trump and deliver the first victory on his behalf on a path to 38 victories that he achie d achieved. it is my pleasure tonight to read the votes on

kasich is embarrassing his state. tonight kasich responds in an exclusive interview with nbc news. >>> mind of a killer who targeted an assassinated police officers in baton rouge. inside his twisted history. >>> olympics bombshell, the world's anti-doping agency calls for the entire russian team to be banned from rio. unprecedented in the history of the games. >>> and center stage, she could be the next first lady of the united states, tonight melania trump steps into the biggest spotlight of her life. "nightly news" begins right now. >> announcer: the republican national convention, this is "nightly news with lester holt," reporting tonight from cleveland. >>> good evening, the stop trump movement if not doa, a dramatic strart to the republican national convention. an old-fashioned floor fight, but it may be the last gasp of a movement that has dogged trump during the primaries. it's enough to highlight the deep divisions in the party even now in what is a celebration of unity. our team is all here, we're going to k

john kasich tells me why during our interview today. all that, and we had it at the rock & roll hall of fame. our live coverage goes on from cleveland right after this. >> welcome back to this special edition of "hardball" from the republican convention in cleveland. accusations of plagiarism in parts of melania trump's speech last night appear to be lifted from michelle obama's 2008 convention speech. that threw a wrench into the first night of the republican convention and cast a cloud over today's events as well. let's take a look at the similarities as we splice together the two speeches. it's pretty graphic. you'll get it. >> from a young age -- >> barack and i were raised -- >> my parents impressed on me. >> with so many. >> of the values. >> of the same values. >> that you work hard for what you want in life. >> you work hard for what you want in life. >> that your word is your bond. >> that your word is your bond. >> and you do what you say and keep your promise. >> that you do what you say you're gonna do. >> that you treat peo

kasich.is a winner take all, so he got all 66 delegates. kasich. all in for john a lot of the get -- the delegates were telling us yesterday and this week that that donaldappy trump and his team continue to bash the governor. earlier this week, paul binford said the governor is not endorsing donald trump and it was embarrassing and a dumb mistake. ,he war of words continued saying "people make mistakes, even really stupid was but they can recover, kind of like opening the door to having the trump people make an overture at least two playing nice. i think john kasich has very little use for donald trump, he does not like his message or his method. the use that the ohio republican party does have for donald trump is that, at the top of the and it could drag on the rest of the ticket and i would include incumbent u.s. portman.b ted strickland, a democrat from southeast ohio who lives in columbus now. i think they are really concerned, they want to make sure they hold the seat. it's donald trump

i would tell kasich to -- i would tell kasich what are you doing?bout i would say think hillary clinton and elizabeth warren. get on board come the train is leaving. if you want a future in politics, you have to be part of this team or you will make a lot of people angry. john: coming up, we hear from the other side of the aisle. ♪ hillary clinton: when i was a little girl, i went to see when they reissued it, the movie "the wizard of oz." there were similarities that appeared to me. lots of sound and the fury, even a fog machine. when you pull back the curtain, it was just donald trump with nothing to offer the american people. mark: that was hillary clinton speaking about the republican national convention here in cleveland. she was here today in north las vegas at an event. here with us now and cleveland is the democratic national chair, congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz. your convention starts on monday in philadelphia. tell me, what to think of tom vilsack. rep. wasserman schultz: he is a wonderful governor and his been doing a great job a

what you had was, the campaign manager launched attacks on john kasich. those proceeded throughout the day, culminating with donald trump going on fox news and stepping on his own convention. it is remarkable to see the nominee going after the governor of the state where the convention is being held. few can remember the last time that happened. steve: but the state every republican president has won. >> if he cannot win ohio, his have to victory narrows significantly. winas to find a way to ohio, especially if he loses pennsylvania and florida. steve: we will look for your cm.orting on politico. susan: let's look at the moment n as partld trump's so of the new york delegation reported their tally, putting his father over the top. new york,ecretary, the empire state. proud to be the home of donald j. trump. proud we were the first state to cast a majority of our primary votes for donald trump. won 61hat he was 61 -- of our 62 counties. proud that we have as one of our delegates, donald j. trump junior. [applause] >> thank you very much. thank you to my fa

i wish governor kasich had gone to the convention. the convention is in his state.nderstand the complexity of the decision he had to make. >> as you watch the convention, so far, which of the speeches stood out to you? >> well, i had an old friend, k kimberlin brown give a speech and i enjoyed hers. >> any comment on melania trump, or donald junior's speech? >> i thought they were all well delivered and i personally don't think you ought to have so many family speeches in a convention but that is a decision of the nominee, and i really do think that it would serve the campaign a lot better if they had used some of those speaking slots to try and bring in some of the folks that you have pointed out, have not attended the convention. >> john sanunu, thank you for joining us, we do appreciate it. >> thank you. >> to the battle of the carstar picking sides, a star of our own weighs in on hollywood endorsements, that's next. think fixing your windshield is a big hassle? not with safelite. this family needed their windshield replaced, but they're daughters heart was set o

john kasich, still not here.s -- i was -- the mainstream media, you know all kinds of criticism, left media about how angry everyone is. i thought about that. i thought, if you have 70% of the people in this country thinking that country is going the wrong direction, and a lot of those people are angry about it. it seems this convention is connecting with a lot of people we're tired of the establishment, we want that outsider, lou: to that point, li lee starter, talking with jerry falwell, jr., ahea made it clear he believes this is about change. to take us to direction we need to go. laura ingram talking on the stage about respect. in particular that dignity of work and restoring and suspect for one another, these are issues. that donald trump himself introduced to the national dialogue in the course of a 13 month campaign. >> right. the establishment candidates seem disconnected, they seem old school, they don't seem in touch with the american people right now. it important if ted cruz wants a future, he starts

john kasich will end up the nominee. >> wow. didn't see that coming. thank you very much, david. >>> coming up, donald trump and his campaign staffers are stepping up their attacks on the man you just heard about, i don't know john kasich, for refusing to speak at the convention in his home state. >> we can't be attacking muslims and hispanics and trying to shut down trade and not caring about the debt. those are all problems for me. >> he signed a pledge. and from a standpoint of honor, i think he should show up. >> well, he's nothowing up. and coming up, i'll get new reaction from an ohio congressman who was supporting kasich, but is now supporting donald trump. we are coming to you live from corner alley restaurant in cleveland, ohio. interesting group of people who have shown up to chime in on the conversation. we'll be right back. jordan and chelsea were searching for the perfect place for their wedding on booking.com. oh! yurt. yes! earthy... just rustic. [laughing] oh my gosh. wow. [owl howling] [gulp] uh, how about an island? island, yeah. yeah

>> well, we understand that he's tried to go around and tried to get into kasich's world. he's been shut down at every turn. and kasich himself, as recently as about a week ago, is just refusing to even consider this publicly. now, maybe that's something that even, you know -- trump positions himself as such a key negotiator. maybe trump is even more attracted to that as a negotiating tactic. but by all accounts, the kasich people haven't given an inch yet. >> i want to shift gears to the convention. you and i could probably fill up every night with who we think the democrats are going to put up. who are we going to see on stage there? >> that is going to be a very good question. we know some of the entertainment around the trump campaign or the trump convention now, bands like journey we reported are being brought in. one of the interesting things with that is those bands, this entertainment, is being used to draw donors, to try to bring donors into cleveland. maybe folks reluctant to come to the convention are being dangled backstage passes to gin up interest in the conv

four votes for john kasich.1 votes for my friend and the next president of the united states donald j. trump! [cheers and applause] >> that was by the way corey lewandowski former campaign manager for donald trump announcing the new hampshire delegate total as you heard there. lewandowski, an official delegate for the republican national convention. and you're going to hear the delegates being putting in the official nomination, the delegates. as you add up to 1237. obviously, we talked about that's the magic number for the nomination. and donald trump will get the nomination in a little bit. new york will take him over the top. let's turn now to new jersey. >> 51 trump. madam secretary, the son of governor chris christie. [cheers and applause] new jersey, the garden state, the greatest state in the union, and the state that cast the highest overall percentage of its popular vote for mr. trump is pleased to announce that its 51 delegates will be given to donald j. trump for president of the united states. [cheer

i'm an alternate delegate for governor kasich. >> congratulations.have been looking for governor kasich. have you been able to find him? >> i have not seen him. it doesn't seem like we're been able to find john kasich. next door is the pennsylvania delegation. let's see about pennsylvania senator pat toomey. >> i am from outside of philadelphia, pennsylvania. >> we have been running around everywhere looking for your senator pat toomey. have you seen him? >> know, i also haven't seen the congressman for my district, ryan costello, who was elected as a delegate, promising to vote for the district winner on the first ballot. i have not seen him, either. >> how do you feel about that? >> well, you know, all i can say is he said it and i did not see him here voting. >> it seems like sometimes the crowd is thin. do you feel that some republican leaders are not showing up for donald trump? >> well, obviously. see a lotear when you of the candidates who pledged to support the nominee not here. we see ex-president's not here. bob dole is here, which all of t

kasich won ohio.by the way, i just checked in again with the delegate over there we still do not believe john kasich, the sitting governor of ohio, will be in the arena over this convention time. i don't know the last time that has happened here. wisconsin, greta, your home state, and the governor scott walker is not here yet. but as soon as he arrives -- when is he getting here? >> he will be here shortly. >> how is he feeling? because is he speaking this week. >> is he. and is he really fired up about the whole event, the convention and looking forward to november. >> are you on the trump train? >> i'm on the trump train. i have been there from the beginning. make america great again. >> wisconsin, greta, i talked to senator bob dole, he is in the house tonight. he says he feels great and he may run again let's see, back to you. >> little piece of trivia, bill hemmer just got back where did he a fantastic job covering that horrible crisis. he has been on the road a lot. also, ohio is bill hemmer's h

you talk about governor kasich in town but not here. >> it's a great point. he's the only authentic conservative. he lost. it's a tough calculation. i think trump will flame out. i think he's a disaster for the party. i'm not going to come to the convention and have a conversation about the new republican party in 2020. you can respect that more. i know it's more controversial because it's his home state. this is donald trump's house. ted cruz is coming. quickly about mike pence. this is a big night. the country doesn't know who he is. i've known him for a long time. vice presidents get two big nights. this night and the debate. >> what does governor pence try to do tonight and who is he really speaking to? >> he's speaking to conservatives, first of all in the base. he's speaking to these folks who are supporting ted cruz down here on the floor. he's speaking to cruz people around the country. >> i sense we'll hear a lot about ronald reagan from him tonight. i listen to pence's speech. he was telling a lot of personal antecdotes. >> he might even throw jack

john kasich, he has a core.onal views, he knows what this country stands for and what it's about. and the fact that he is not the nominee says something about the party that makes him uncouple for theable. >> that could make them look at the republican party as a home for them as opposed to a gated community that keeps them out. >> he's got a couple more years. take a look at tomorrow's "usa today," it's official, an outsider is in. tonight donald trump became the republican not knee for the republican party 2016. our latest right after this. ♪ using 60,000 points from my chase ink card i bought all the framework... wire... and plants needed to give my shop... a face... no one will forget. see what the power of points can do for your business. learn more at chase.com/ink the still feels betterrbo see what the power of points can do for your business. after 10 shaves than a disposable on its first. mach 3 blades have twice the coating. for a closer shave with zero redness. shave, after shave, after shave. gillett

this is coming from people this kasich's circle. kasich doesn't think very highly of trump.he story is pretty jaw dropping if this is what is going on behind the scenes. why should i think this is kasich in a pretty nasty feud now, that he is putting the knife in? >> for one thing, it has been known by me for some time, chris, that people in trump's circle were reaching out to kasich. they always viewed him as a guy tials, ld be perfect. had run in a presidential contest before and could bring a state of ohio. so it shouldn't surprise listeners that kasich was always kind of in the wheel hous now there was always a question of chemistry. whether or not a guy with kasich's thorny personality would mesh with someone like trump's. in fact, trump never did make a formal offer to him. he never said, john, i want you to be my veep. won't you do it? but they talked around it frequently. the other thing i should say is that it also shouldn't strike anyone as implausible that donald trump jr. would say to the kasich team, look, he can be in charge of foreign and domestic policy mysel

>> proudly cast 66 votes for governor john kasich! [cheers and applause] . >> pursuant to the announcement of the delegation and the rules of this convention, ohio, 66 votes, kasich. [cheers] >> oklahoma, 43 delegates of the following bound delegates. 13 trump. good evening, my name is pam pollard, i'm the chairman of the republican party for the great state of oklahoma. [ cheers ] >> as the second home to speaker paul and janet ryan, oklahoma is the heartland of america, and the reddest state in the union. [ cheers ] >> oklahoma has a heritage of strong and conservative grassroots leadership, electing republicans through every ngres office with supermajorities in both state legislative chambers. oklahoma is proud to produce and supply the energy and agriculture in the world. this november, oklahoma will take up the mantle once more and deliver all 77 counties to our republican nominee. oklahoma proudly casts 19 votes for senator ted cruz, and 24 votes for the next president of the united states, donald j. trump. [cheers] >> pursuant

mate and that kasich declined. according to the "new york times," donald trump's son, donald jr., called kasich's adviser asking if the governor wanted to be "the most powerful vice president in history," promising kasich would be in charge of both domestic and foreign policy. donald jr. reportedly said that his father's role as president would be simply making america great again. trump's campaign disputes this account and denies it wanted to pick kasich over indiana governor mike pence. meanwhile, old video footage of mike pence resurfaced thursday of pence testifying on the floor of the house of representatives in 2004 that weapons of mass destruction had been found in iraq. >> despite the national media's best efforts to minimize the news, i am here to report as the united states military confirmed in iraq on monday, weapons of mass destruction have been found in iraq. where are the wmd's? we have an asset again and again. they had been hidden in iraq, within the reach of terrorists, a threat to iraqi people, t

and kasich himself, as recently ago, is justek refusing to even consider this publicly.tmaybe that's something even, you know -- trump a keyons himself as such negotiator. maybe trump is even more attracted to that as a negotiating tactic. but by all accounts, the kasich an inchaven't given yet. >> i want to shift gears to the convention. probably fill up every night with who we think the democrats are going to put up. to see on stage there? >> that is going to be a very good question. we know some of the entertainment around the trump trump convention now, bands like journey we are being brought in. one of the interesting things bands, this those entertainment, is being used to draw donors, to try to bring s into cleveland. reluctant to come to the convention are being dangled gin upge passes to interest in the convention. >> you've got to get journey to up the convention, you've got problems. >> journey in cleveland. that's a problem. staff departures today, not super senior level people but people who the trump campaign just hired. what's the dynamic where people are

but as i noted, kasich's advisor says it was trump's son who asked governor kasich not trump himself. governor kasich, of the state is not even here and not going to be here and that's a talker, as well. chris wallace is live at the cleveland convention center. across the way there in our newsroom. chris, there are a couple kinds of vice presidents that i've known of, there's the dan quail kind who doesn't do all that much, and there's the joe biden kind who is in on everything from what we're told. i don't know of one who has been in charge of all policy, foreign and domestic, do you? >> no, and it could never work. the only thing mentioned along those lines is i remember in 1980 is the same republican convention, ronald reagan sud n suddenly got the idea he wanted to offer the vice presidentcy to gerald ford, the former president four years before and they were trying to work out some kind of co-presidency, wherein particular, gerald ford would be in charge of foreign policy, and after some period of negotiations, both sides realized there was no way this could ever work. the presid

he has to be sort of gracious and try to kasich somehow in the fold. jon: but trump obviously is in the position he's in because he has been publishes, he has refused to bow to political convention. he's scrappy and if somebody punches at him, he will punch back so would trump followers , supporters, would they somehow acquiesce if he decides to extend an olive branch to the governor of ohio right now? >> you don't really have to extend much of an olive branch, you can say you know, we wish the governor were here speaking. we're sure he would be well received to talk about all the great things he's done here in the great state of ohio and then just move on. you don't have to bust too much or embrace john kasich but try not to be feuding with this republican who controls the power structure in the state that's absolutely critical to donald trump being elected president. jon: the big story of yesterday really might be the fact that trump kind of waltzed to the nomination. we were talking a couple of months ago, we were speculating on how there could be t

kasich said no. not only that, like ted cruz, kasich refuses to endorse trump.rnoon the governor and i sat down at the union league in philadelphia for a wide ranging conversation about his opposition to his party's nominee and the future of the republican party under donald trump. and we talked about a question many in the gop who do not support trump might be wondering. >> you listen to you and you listen to ted cruz they say i'm going vote. i'm not going to vote for hillary clinton and i don't know that i like donald trump so what do you do? what do you do? >> i don't know what i'm going to do yet. we'll have to see if things get close -- as things get closer to november and, you know, i just don't think, though, that we're in a good spot. i don't know what i'm going to do yet. i'm going to -- i'm waiting to see if i can see a unifying donald trump, a positive donald trump and if i see it great. if i don't see it then i've got to figure something else out. if you're a union fire you can n win. if not you're unlikely to. >> governor kasich left the door open t

we delivered for john kasich. i was a kasich delegate and still am.'m a committed kasich delegate. >> do you rationalize being a supporter of kasich with now being here as a member of someone that's here to see donald trump get the nomination tonight? how do you do that? >> i was a surrogate speaker for kasich in iowa. i campaigned for him in new hampshire. i hosted -- kasich is a personal friend of mine. but the issue is who do we want to win in the general election, hillary clinton or donald trump? and for me and for most of the delegates at this convention there is no question about who we want and it sure as hell is not hillary clinton. >> why the do you think your governor can't come around to support him? >> i respect our governor's position and you'd have to ask him. >> we know he spoke to lester holt last night. thank you very much sweating it out for me. i want to go back to our colleague, nbc's hallie jackson on the convention floor and she's been tracking down certain folks that have showed up. we know don, jr., is there inside the q along

. >> he can earn our vote, not by attacking john kasich. >> the judge should be here, john kasich could be here. he lobbied for this convention, he should be here. he is making the people of his party -- he should come here. >> you got to blame the candidate for the fact he is not showing up, put 100% of the blame on people who are not supporting him. trish: a supposedly meeting was supposed to happen and it didn't happen because john kasich didn't want it to happen. there are a lot of hurt feelings. >> i don't think it is an issue of hurt feelings. there is a lot of faux pass, undisciplined behavior got recklessly close to being incompetent and racism which could cross the line. trish: i don't think you are close. >> hurt feelings are driving the trepidation on the part of strong conservatives who are eager to support him. you got to earn their support and they want to see between now and the election gaining ground. trish: a big contingency out there. >> a strong conservative. >> donald trump coverage across the street and mike pence, set to hold their first public event together as o

kasich won ohio. kasich's not going to be here as you mentioned earlier today.e night, you could hear the ohio section breaking out in cheers, and then you could hear a ripple of amusement across the hall tonight. kasich's a no-show. >> he's a man of principle. i don't agree with it. i think he signed that pledge has trump pointed out on his program last night, and he should show up and do what he can. but you know john. he takes everything personally. >> i can tell you scott walker, the governor from wisconsin, speaks tomorrow night. he's been here both nights, and he told me tonight that he will go without podium and without teleprompter. >> wow. >> so maybe trump is rubbing off on him a little bit. >> scott walker unleashed tomorrow, right? walker is tomorrow? >> we shall see. >> all right. >> yes, indeed. tomorrow night here. >> thank you very much. i do not want to leave you this evening without the factor tip of the day. a salute to a young american who sang "the star-spangled banner" in a terrific way. ♪ 0 say does that star-spangled banner yet wave ♪ ♪ o