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z >> governor kasich, how much political pressure does this put on president biden right now?w, wolf, when you think about inflation and gloria's right. this is something that affects people every day. you go to fill up your car with gasoline, you look at the price of what it was and it's staggering to you. you go into the grocery store, i don't care what you're buying, commodities are going up. it's not something that's not clear. it's something people deal with every day so they're able to measure how they feel and as you've seen is that the economy has risen to the top of the list of all the concerns that people have and inflation's tough to beat. it's insidious. and i'm glad to see they're beginning to recognize this is a serious matter. >> has enormous impact on middle class and working class people when all the prices simply are going up and up. gloria, the inflation we're seeing today still nowhere near the level in the late 1970s when jimmy carter was president, but is there a jimmy carter comparison looming down the road? >> well, a lot of conservatives are already ma

>> let me get governor kasich's thoughts.isk with this covid. and for a guy to put something out like that and say this is about the midterm is just irresponsible. but he has shown that before. it is a darned shame. what we need to do is tell people, look. you can't win it politically but i care about you. i care about your family. i care about your children. go get vaccinated. save yourself and don't take up a bed for somebody else that legitimately didn't take care of themselves. >> good point, john kasich, gloria borger, thank you very much. >>> coming up a pattern of disturbing crimes escalating across the united states right now. we're taking a closer look at the latest so-called smash-and-grab robberies which stores are being targeted right now. there can be some not-so-pretty stuff going on inside. it's true, with diabetic retinopathy, excess sugar can damage blood vessels, causing vision loss or even blindness. so remember this: now is the time to get your eyes checked. eye care is important to your long-term diabetes

as governor kasich was saying. but this is important for the country to know how this happened. >> you know, governor kasich, what's your message to some of the members of your own republican party who are actually happy to let these witnesses off the hook? >> wolf, unfortunately, that ship has sailed and it's like they live in some distopian world here. there have been members of congress who have said these were just some unruly visitors to the capitol. i suppose if you can make things up and keep repeating the same lie over and over again, somehow you know, people come to believe it. but this is the problem we have in america with people being trapped in the same silo and they just keep telling each other exactly what they want to hear and they ignore any of the facts or evidence. it's a sad day, wolf. those who believe we need to get to the bottom of it, we just got to keep speaking out. >> good point. thank you very much. >>> just ahead, can president biden get his social spending bill across the finish line a

i think -- you know, i'm -- i'm -- i'm with -- with governor kasich. we ought to get this done as fast as we can. but what's the this that we want to get done? i think that the public wants what is in the -- both of those bills. not just the infrastructure bill but also the social and climate bill. and if you look at the polls, probably overwhelmingly in -- in favor of this. so let's get both of them done as soon as possible. it's -- it's a shame that not a single republican has signed on to either of these bills. in the senate or in the house. i think that's really the -- >> well, in the senate 19 republicans did vote for the infrastructure bill. just to be clear. >> well, the infrastructure bill but i am talking about the package. the package is what everybody -- i mean, look at those polls, erin, in terms of what public -- what the public opinion, what public wants in terms of -- >> well, public's split. i mean, in general, yes, they want the childcare leave. but they don't think it's going to change their economic point of view when -- when the pol

governor kasich? >> absolutely it can work. government really usually needs to be a last resort, not a first resort because of the bureaucracy connected to it. i agree with much of what you said, and i've been saying for months now they need to pass the infrastructure bill. i mean, forget this build back better whatever it is. pass the infrastructure bill. take it to the house. if the progressiving es won't v for it, then bitden goes to the republicans. on the build back better bill, manchin just said it. i saw a scroll just before i came on the show -- break that big package up into things that people can understand. i mean, people do care about a child tax credit. they do care about family leave. break it up. don't shove it all through. figure out how you'll pay for it. and then also, in the group think inside the white house, you have to have people telling the president the truth. everybody can't tell him what he wants to hear. finally, what is his passion? what does he really feel strongly about? i can't figure out what it

it gets really hard to cut out, governor kasich, where are we in of the process? >> it's insidious.in my view, is -- really comes from -- from bad monetary policy. i mean, this has been an argument that's gone on for -- since robert riche and i weren't even born, people have argued about this. >> yes. >> but when you keep pumping money into the economy, you have too many dollars chasing too few goods. on top of that, you don't -- you don't have significant amounts of investment today, which gives workers the tools to be more productive. so, you've seen an explosion of money in this economy. and look. larry sommers, the former treasury secretary. he is really a pretty remarkable guy. he's been warning about this inflation by looking at these programs -- >> since february. >> -- significant period of time. yeah. and was dismissed over and over and over, again. so, it is insidious but there is another part that we have to think about when we think about economics and i know you know this, erin. and that is, there's two sides. there is the supply side and the demand side and i think the

i want to bring in now our senior commentator, john kasich, the former mayor of new orleans as well, good evening. you guys are often late, we have to fill time until you can get to the podium to give your victory speeches or your concession speeches and we're waiting for phil murphy to do the same as we have projected him to remain the governor of new jersey. good evening to both of you. john, it's really a tight race in new jersey. no one saw that coming. murphy is declaring victory tonight, but this has to have republicans excited for their chances going forward to have come this close, look, maybe it's what the future holds or maybe it's just a race or two races. who knows, but what do you think of that? >> well, first of all, don, i listened to your opening, and i can't disagree with any of it. you and i often disagree, but we didn't disagree on this tonight. and new jersey is kind of shocking to me, but you know, virginia's also something we just can't write that off as well. i think what's happened is the republicans have greater intensity. the democrats have -- they've been l

. >>> let's discuss with john kasich, and contributor for cnn. been nearly 24 hours since these remarks have surfaced war your thoughts on this? should they be condemning this? they all believe in the same thing, love god, which creates humility for people, and love your neighbor, or help your neighbor the way you would want your neighbor to love our help you. jim, what's happened in our has lost favor. as a result, people see each other sort of too much of the time like widgets. for a woman to make this kind of statement means she's ignoring the fact we're all made in the image of god. we all deserve respect. we don't deserve attacks. people who laugh at this, they don't understand what faith is all about. we wonder in this country why there's so much fighting, why there's so much name-calling. not just in politics about across the board. it's because people have lost sight of how important religion is, in terms of guiding individual behavior, and it's not about the negatives. it's about the positives. so the idea that somebody would say somethi

and we are waiting for his victory speech as i speak with john kasich and mitch landrieu here.ead, john. >> mitch, here is the thing. people are always for those things, until they realize they have to pay for them. so, let's just take medicare. you know it. i know it. and many americans know that it's kind of ricketty and now they want to add benefits to it. or if you take the child-tax credit. if they had broken that out and worked with the republicans, which is what biden promised to do, if he had worked with republicans and taken pieces of this and that's -- i don't think they are going to do that. i think they are going to jam this thing through. it isn't going to be fully paid for and i'm not sure it's going to revive them. >> but -- but, john -- but, john -- >> to that point, mitch, let me just say because i think this will help -- help make your point or i'm not sure. virginia democratic congresswoman abigail spanberger spoke to "the new york times" about the president's agenda and this is what she said and i quote. nobody elected him to be fdr. they elected him to be n

kasich went on before me. during that time, they would adjust the thing. john gets all excited, governor kasich. and he goes on much longer than he is supposed to. and he runs right into my time. i am right up against the hard out. california, 8:00, 11:00 done. so in the middle of the speech, she's done, we are cutting off at 11:00. i get there, governor women can only right out there and say, here is susan, here's her speech. so there is the prompter, i can't see the prompter. and there is that moment, really? you lose that. and suddenly you are thinking, should i say, ladies and gentlemen, we are having some technical difficulties, we are going to have a five second break? but you can't do that. and to this day, -- every time i see john kasich on tv i say, i will never forgive him! [laughs] but again, what an amazing honor, to be a keynote speaker. and to be a keynote speaker for bob dole. i loved working with senator dole on so many issues. he's a guy, i got to know him, because we work together on several pieces of legislation. he was a freshman legisl

cnn senior governor john kasich and thanks so much for joining us. to navigate this uncertain relationship with donald trump in the years to come from a former governor to a future governor, what's your advice to him? >> just do your job. it will be sitting around worried about whether donald trump likes you or not. you have issues you have in virginia. put the politics aside. you can't calculate where you want to be or where you want to go, just do your job and if it works out the next job will come along, and by the way, wolf, i do want to welcome you back to the united states and i guarantee you the pope wanted to see you more than you wanted to see biden because the pope knows where you are. >> not so sure about that. >> with youngkin's success, governor, specific to this particular race in virginia or do you think it could be replicated by other republican candidates across the country. >> you know, wolf. i think we all know what happened. the republicans were fired up and part of the reason why they were fired up was because terry mcauliffe tri

. >> governor kasich, you're a former member of congress yourself. what do you make of the trump legal team argument just released that handing over his presidential records would give congress too much power? >> wolf, what's been happening over a number of years now is power has actually shifted to the executive branch. i think that's an absurd argument. the tragedy here is this should have been a bipartisan investigation, house and senate to get to the bottom of one of the ugliest days in the history of the united states of america. instead, it's broken down largely along partisan lies. here is the issue. congress doesn't have the teeth. so then they go to the justice department. the question is are we now going to be in a situation where, if the republicans win the house, they're going to be doing the same thing? is everything just caving in? i think congress needs to think about the way in which they can have real teeth in these investigations, because if they keep relying on going to a grand jury, which is what they did in the case of bannon, ho

governor kasich? >> absolutely it can work. government really -- usually needs to be a last resort, not a first resort, because of the bureaucracy corrected to it. i agreed with much of what you said. i have been saying for months that they need to pass the infrastructure bill. forget build back better whatever it is. pass the infrastructure bill. take it to the house. if the progressives won't vote for it, then biden goes at the republicans and says, i need you. if they don't vote for it, he travels the country and makes his point nobody wants to cooperate. i'm going to force them to cooperate. on the build back better bill, manchin said it. i heard it -- i saw a scroll before i came on the show. break that big package up into things that people can understand. people do care about a child tax credit. they do care about family leave. break it up. don't shove it all through. figure out how you are going to pay for it. then also, end the group think inside the white house. you have to have people telling the truth. everybody can

and you get john kasich, this is the water i know. i had s.e. cupp on saying this is the party i know. i feel like i'm on an island. you have charlie dent on saying this is the party i know. >> they're also not in office. >> yeah. >> find me some people in office who are saying this isn't the party i know. you got two of them, and one of them just got kicked out of her state party and the other is not running again. >> and she is going to have a tough time. maybe lose the election. >> when you don't belong to your party anymore within your state, yeah, you're going have a tough time. but look, opposition is a legitimate position. >> it is. >> i'm telling you this, this two-party system doesn't work anymore. we need more parties that have real funding and that get seats so that they have seats a the table and they reflect the ideological spectrum. we have more people who say they're independent than democrat or republican. >> it doesn't work anymore -- it would work if you had sense. you know, when someone says -- >> this is what works. >> when s

kasich went on before me. during that time of the clip, they adjust the thing. john gets all excited, governor kasich. he goes much longer than he's supposed to. he runs right into my time. i'm up against the hard out. in california, 8:00, 11:00 done, done, done. if she's in the middle of the speech, she's done. we're cutting off at 11:00. so i get there. governor whitman can only say, "and now susan molinari for the keynote speech." i get out there and the prompters, i can't see the prompters. so i do have my written, but there's that moment that you're like, really? you lose it. for a second, i think should i say, we're having technical difficulties, we're going to take a five-second break. i can't do that. while i'm thinking of these things, i've started the speech. it was what it was. to this day, every time my dad sees john kasich on tv, he'll say, i'll never forgive him. again, what an amazing honor to be a keynote speaker and a keynote speaker for bob dole. i loved working with senator dole on so many issues. and there's a guy -- i got to know him because

. >> have you asked john kasich how he feels about backing biden? >> i don't talk to john.er] i have nothing against john personally but we don't talk anymore. he used his fill-in for or rally when o'reilly was out in believe it or not he was a lot more difficult to deal with than bill. if you can believe it. >> hi jesse. to capture the youth of america it seems like we need to express conservative values in a way that is funny hip and cool. if you look at like we talked about early jimmy kimmel steve colbert and it seems like the fox network is embracing this idea between pirates and the rest of you with the award young conservative media and is that something to look forward to seeing more of with younger conservative voices? [applause] it being conservative is cool. it's cool when you are 80 and it's cool when you were 19 because you have the facts on your side. and you are unafraid and that has always been a renegade out -- attitude of this country the risktakers the pioneers the loudmouths, the jokesters. it's pretty important to you. so the people that are willing to

[applause] >> have you asked john kasich how he feels? >> i don't talk to john.we don't talk anymore. believe it or not, he was a lot more difficult to deal with #if you can believe it. >> to capture the youth of america, it seems we need to express values in a way that's funny, hip and cool. we talked about early, jimmy kimmel, steve colbert and it seemed like the fox network embraces the gap betweenns paris and the rest of you in the young conservative media, is that something we can look forward to seeing more of with you young conservativeis voices? [applause] >> being conservative is cool. cool when you are 80 and cool when you are 19 because you have the facts on your side and you are unafraid and that's always the renegade attitude in this country. the risktakers, the pioneers, loudmouthed, the jokester's. people are pointing at you. [laughter] so the people willing to put themselves out there and say things that could be controversial about those people have always been involved in comedy. comedy is when you push that edge and you can't push that edge ser

and get back to the sort of john kasichs of the world and mitt romneys and others. there are a lot of people in the republican party who would like to restore the sort of old fashioned party, if i might call it that. >> and you may do that. all right, david gergen. elliot williams. we remember that republican party. it did exist, for our younger viewers. >> it did. just buried colin powell. he was with the republicans that broke off. >> you're right about that. david, elliot, thank you so much. appreciate it. >>> still to come, more than 90 lawsuits have been filed after the deadly crowd surge in houston. where are we in terms of that investigation? what are we learning about the investigation as friends and family say their final good-byes? you're live in the cnn newsroom. next up, carvana. oh, boy. carvana just doesn't seem to understand how the test drive works. they give their customers seven days. and if they don't like it, they give 'em their money back. wait, they take the car back? that's crazy! what if it was driven by like a zookeeper? or a mud wrestler? o

let's start with the kasich question of why did you read this book and what did you hope the readers would get out of it and learn from it that they probably don't know about the process by which the united states gained its independence from great britain. >> thank you marsha and thank you for the conversation here. i wrote it because i wanted to convey in terms of first of all generally in this particular age have complicated it was. you can't tell rulers what they have misconceptions about. there's a common misconception about the american revolution that they establish their independence. it's very much more complicated than that. they wanted independence from britain. there were a lot of americans who did and won independence from britain at all. it was a situation that the american colonies and american empire was very different and they thought there was no reason to risk that for something that might not pan out and might not be an improvement over what they had mrs. as i say it's the first time in elementary school where we learned about the revolution and the continental ar

gloria borger and cnn's senior political commentator the former republican governor of ohio john kasicht a that former president trump should be the speaker if the republicans become the majority after the midterm elections in the house? you were once a member of the house. >> i think he hit the nail on the head when he said meltdown. i mean, this is just so crazy. as i watch everything happening down there, which is a fact that the republicans did not condemn gosar for his cartoon favoring the execution of aoc and i'm trying to figure out, wolf, as i like to do streaming sometimes with my wife, can you say what is happening in washington, is it sci-fi? is it fantasy? maybe it's a horror film. you pick the category. you know? but it is just nuts. it goes on and on in the house of representatives and to some degree when we see the senate beginning to back candidates who donald trump was for, it looks like he is still running so much of the republican party. as to whether that remains in terms of the pinnacle of his power, yet to be seen. i hope we wake up. >> as i often say you can't mak

let's start with the kasich question of why did you read this book and what did you hope the readers would get out of it and learn from it that they probably don't know about the process by which the united states gained its independence from great britain. >> thank you marsha and thank you for the conversation here. i wrote it because i wanted to convey in terms of first of all generally in this particular age have complicated it was. you can't tell rulers what they have misconceptions about. there's a common misconception about the american revolution

ranging from bernie sanders to never trumpers like john kasich from ohio. is there enough material to stretch the tent without breaking it, especially if biden is part of the picture in 20234. so as of today, do we have a sense of the answers to the questions that you are posing? >> yeah, so ayman, we don't have an absolute question to president biden. he said he is planning to run for reelection. there's a lot of wiggle room in that term "planning to run." and to me, this does kind of like play out on the midterm elections. often if a president's party doesn't do all that well, you end up having the next elections, and saying that, hey, i got the message from voters, we're going to run against the out-of-control republicans in congress. but if president biden doesn't run for reelection, that can throw things off that normal kind of pattern. >> all right. nbc's mark murray. we're going let you attend to that beeping sound. i'm not sure if that's copping from your end or not. >> i think it's the oven, ayman. i think it's the oven in the back. >> dinner is re

you know, in kasich, i guess a bullet, you know? went through the shield windshield and just hit the baby. the california highway patrol believes there was a shooting on the other side of the freeway in the north bong lanes. the chp says the boy and his family were not the target. one of the bullets hit jasper who never woke up, and it's very sad because the baby can ever get to cry. and you will never see the biggest smile again. jasper's mother, who was driving the family's lexus is trying to be strong, but i know she's holding up pretty well. but uh but inside, i know she's crying like crazy. oakland police joins chp officers on 8 18 year broadway where jasper's mother stopped the car. in a statement, oakland mayor libby schaaf said, in part to lose a 23 month old to gun violence is as heart wrenching in a sickening as it gets as a mother and as a mayor. i'm devastated by the totality of human loss and trauma caused by gun violence in our society. it could happen to any one of us driving on his on the freeway, the boy's father fl

you know, in kasich, i guess a bullet, you know?ol believes there was a shooting on the other side of the freeway in the n b