and he talked to me about his sunday school experiences, in a midwestist church in kaspar, wyoming, where re crew up. his denominational migrations over the year and this innermost beliefs about his faith, and so sit in cheney's study, surrounded by all the booked and then national soon to turn 74, having survived five heart attacks and a heart transplant to hear her same to me i'm a christian and believe in a hive hereafter, so if you love or hate endick cheney, you read this book, you will learn how this man's mind and his heart really worked. >> host: i loved the book and congratulations on a great interview and putting together, an important piece of hoyt and i'm glad you had a chance to do that. >> guest: i'm glad to spend this time with you. >> host: thank you. >>> this is a heavy subject but crucially important for this nation as we head into the 2016 elections. that is the means by which deep-pocketed business interests moved addresssively to steer the american political process there way be by and large they are succeeding. in it entireties and complexity, this is a star far, far