have a lot of -- i know that casper ski have a lot of guys inside, they work in kaspersky and have possibility some decisions in this company. >> thank you. mike'ser in, u.s. senate staff. i wonder if you can talk about the -- probably one of the more well-known hacks in russia which was mr. medvedev's permanent account and i -- personal account and also got peskov if i'm not mistaken. anything known about who might have done that and an example of real world effects where that played into the opposition mobilization and protests against the government in thank you. >> you say, in 2011, yaw. >> recently. medvedev? >> i believe. [inaudible question] -- palaces and so on. >> ah. [inaudible question] >> yeah. medvedev accounts is hacked by -- and once a question is about how does operate with oppositions? >> well, -- [inaudible question] the real world effect of when that became public, known as a motivation towards antigovernment protests. we haven't seep that level of protest since 2011. >> there's some groups, i think some of these groups are working whose government who -- which have desks fr

that --vsky: i know ski have a lotper -- but i know kasperski has a and they guys inside work in hackositions at kasperky toe -- at make some decisions with this company. >> thank you. abouter if you could talk one of them more well-known hacks in russia, a personal account,-- a personal and i think they got someone else, if i am not mistaken. is there anything new about who hast have done that, and it an example of real-world effects that played into the opposition mobilization and protest against the government. mr. turovsky: [indiscernible] >> just recently. medvedev?ky: --the speakers were able to [indiscernible] mr. turovsky: yeah. --or event -- midget of --get of -- medvedev [indiscernible] howestion about hackers operate with oppositions -- >> [indiscernible] but then there was the real-world if it aired when that became public as a motivational tool to -- we have not seen that level of protests since -- [indiscernible] mr. turovsky: yeah. thinkare some groups, i some of these groups were working in government who -- -- fromve administration president, a.p., in russia we would

inclusive it's not a time for crusades anymore we do edition from the russian cyber security firm kaspersky lab is in davos. i would say the trend from the last two years and actually one of the main topics of this year in davos its fragmentation of the world unfortunately is happening there is a global geopolitical tensions and fights between countries and it backfires private companies far as us i would say that the pressure in the united states is enormous it's the biggest it's really disappointing for some reason and surprising for me that that private company can be limited in its operations in a country with no reasons with no facts just by decision of the u.s. government it's really frustrating because it means that we can't protect seniors government and. that is one of the best according to independence and this is just means that. they leave themselves on protected from from cybercrime and from cyber attacks which is really frustrated and i believe that in the long term this is just a very. very wrong decision then independent private company from its operation in the country. del

that used to kaspersky mr wallace they are on that list that's incredible unprecedented because they say that these people are the enemies of united states the whole government except for you probably the they're just not allowed to make you were an enemy of their country oh well maybe i should hold the grudge maybe i should. find that a fantasy. let's say. so i have a feeling that they had a half a years to compile the document but judging by the words in the wording it seems as if a student was working the student who was copying your words from russian websites like all the things relating to the position send everything just poorly translated into english and also take it from the forbes websites or magazines and they say these people are the enemies of the usa so first question what are we going to do about that. how do we respond we'll be surrogates who need to know that and the second things. on the list this morning when reading that could be no. drinking their coffee actually if they were in lard or california that very moment but a man this surrogates i've heard one discuss

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one notable name is eugene kaspersky. this new list is in reaction to russi russia's alleged meddling in the election in 2016. that was not something that is a one-off. he believes the russians are at it again. listen to the excerpt that mike pompeo did. >> russians have a long history of the campaigns. that is not new. the technology that enables it is cheap and plentiful. transferring information around the world is simpler than in world war ii or decades ago. the russians have been at this a long time. i fully expect they will continue to be at it. >> reporter: so while president trump continues to say he hopes for better relations with russia, certainly this list doing nothing to help that cause. in general, it doesn't seem at this point in time that the relations are on the mend. dave. >> yet to see that warming. fred pleitgen in moscow. thank you. >>> pentagon officials tell cnn a russian military jet with an unsafe military intercept over the black sea. the american pilots claiming the jet came within five feet of

sberbank, the russian who founded kaspersky labs.ot of trump administration officials are going. i wonder who they will hang out when they're there. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it's time f"the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> will i see you this weekend? >> no, no. because i want to work on remodeling my kitchen. >> who is going to be there to answer the phone at the white house? they're bringing the entire cabinet and the entire white house staff. >> well, there is no government shutdown. so they will have someone to

sberbank, the russian who founded kaspersky labs. a lot of trump administration i wonder who they will hang out when they're there. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it's time "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> will i see you this weekend? >> no, no. because i want to work on remodeling my kitchen. >> who is going to be there to answer the phone at the white house? they're bringing the entire cabinet and the entire white house staff. >> well, there is no government shutdown. so they will have someone to answer. rachel, i was so glad to see you interviewing senator schumer tonight. because if you couldn't do it tonight, and i had to do the schumer interview, it would have been so short. it would have been me saying, well, i get it. i see why you did what you did. and that would be it. because i've been in that room in the majority leader's office in the senate in the middle of the night trying to figure out these strategies. and i know there is no good choice. and when i see the not good choice

sberbank, the russian who founded kaspersky labs. of trump administration i wonder who they will hang out when they're there. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it's time "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> will i see you this weekend? >> no, no. because i want to work on remodeling my kitchen. >> who is going to be there to answer the phone at the white house? they're bringing the entire cabinet and the entire white house staff. >> well, there is no government shutdown. so they will have someone to answer. rachel, i was so glad to see you interviewing senator schumer tonight. because if you couldn't do it tonight, and i had to do the schumer interview, it would have been so short. it would have been me saying, well, i get it. i see why you did what you did. and that would be it. be

address the cyber concerns and have been banging the drum on that, particularly with respect to kaspersky software. but i am concerned as a member of the small business committee in the senate, as someone who comes from a small business state, that our small businesses are very important to technological innovation and i have heard from many of them that they're very concerned that they can't comply by this deadline, that unlike some of the bigger businesses that work with the department of defense, they don't have the support to comply with these complex regulations by this deadline. can you tell me how concerned any of you are about this, and whether there are ways in which we can do more to help small businesses comply? >> i am very, very interested in this topic, and in fact, we are concerned about being compliant and working -- worrying about risks. we heard back over a year ago that there was great concern about the difficulty of implementing these requirements, so we went and modified them, and in order to most effectively and efficiently get out to the whole community, especially