and because kaspersky lab network had been breached by the israeli intelligence service. israel was able to detect what kaspersky viet found and then notified the n.s.a. the part of the new york times story that was completely without foundation that that the kaspersky lab product was used for spying and that is not correct there is no evidence to support that the only thing that happened was exactly what the what is supposed to happen a antivirus product. so the match a protective device well we're already put out a signature created for it so. that's all that there was there was no nothing improper it just did what it was supposed to do. thousands of people are protesting because. spain's national day is the impasse of the region's future intensifies and can spill over into clashes in the central part of the. i thank you i thank you. thank you spain's prime minister set a monday deadline for the council on president to decide whether or not the region has adopted a declaration of independence and this to chicken reports from boston learn. the iconic sensual must plan ba

was published a lot of media picked up the story with quite catchy headlines like russia turned kaspersky lab software into a tool for spying because personal ad has called these allegations groundless kaspersky has never held will help any government in the world would sign the espionage yes it's private held russia based kaspersky lab has been repeatedly accused of being involved in certain spike t.v. in the last two years eight has been always denying all accusations and all allegations but we still hear and them just recently washington has fun as far as going as far as banning all federal departments and agencies from using kaspersky services and now we have germany on the side of kaspersky say no evidence had been found to prove any involvement by the company any spying activity but given the recent developments in the recent dynamic we can say that this is far from over and we can hear more allegations in the future. well a new wave of pressure on the company began earlier this month when a wall street journal reporter alleged that kaspersky was used by russian hackers to breach the pe

kaspersky lab is denying those allegations. an update this morning- in the case of a suspected leaker. a judge denied bail for reality winner. she's the government contractor accused of smuggling pantyhose from her office in georgia -- and leaking them to online news sites. winner -- who lived in maryland before moving to georgia -- has been behind bars since her arrest in may. new developments now: about white house officials- and their jet trips. this morning we're talking about treasury secretary steven mnuchin. a new review- saying he took 7 trips on government jets. the taxpayer cost of that - is over 800-thousand dollars. but- the review found that he didn't break any laws. it's the first major step toward passing the g-o-p tax reform plan.. the house approved a four-point-one trillion dollar budget yesterday. the budget plan includes cuts to agencies and programs. but the reductions are smaller than what the white house wanted. the senate is set to vote on the budget plan the week of october 16th. passing the measure wou

tool for spying because personal ad has called these allegations groundless let's take a listen kaspersky lab has never held its nor will help any government in the world with cyber espionage efforts. private held russia based because personal lab has been repeatedly accused of being involved in certain spike t.v. in the last two years eight has been always deny all accusations and all allegations but we still hear and bought them just recently washington has found as far as going as far as banning all federal departments and agencies from using kaspersky services and now we have germany on the side of kaspersky say no evidence had been found to bruv any involvement by the company's spying activity but given the recent developments in the recent dynamic we can say that these sagar is far from over and we can hear more allegations in the future back to you. and it's intriguing stuff maria in berlin thank you very much. now thousands of people are protesting across catalonia on spain's national day as the in person over the region's future continues the spanish prime minister has set a monday d

was published a lot of media picked up the story with quite catchy headlines like russia turn kaspersky lab software into a tool for spying because personal ad has called these allegations groundless kaspersky has never held will help any government in the world would sign the espionage efforts private held russia based kaspersky lab has been repeatedly accused of being involved in certain spike t.v. in the last two years eight has been always denying all accusations and all allegations but we still hear and bought them just recently washington has found as far has gone as far as banning all federal departments and agencies from using kaspersky services and now we have germany on the side of kaspersky say no evidence had been found to prove any involvement by the company any spying activity but given the. developments and the recent dynamic we can say that they solve are is far from over and we can hear mall allegations in the future. and that is our news tonight follow me on twitter at news where they have like me on the facebook page we got it dot com we could watch r.g. america on direct

the article does not say who the contractor was but that he used kaspersky lab antivirus software which is believed to be compromised by russian intelligence. for more on all of this we turn to shane harris, who broke the story, covering national security and intelligence issues for the "wall street journal." shane, what do we know that was compromised, what dot russians have. >> we are told this is information that describes or deals with offensive and defensive computer network operations at nsa. so basically the tools and techniques, the codes of the nsa were used to hack into foreign computer systems and the tools and techniques they used to protect computer systems inside the united states. this is very critical information that goes to what intelligence agencies call sources and methods and the kind of thing that is most jealously guarded inside the nsa and extremely classified. >> sreenivasan: and the kaspersky lab soft wear was not at his desktop at the nsa but apt his home. >> what happened was the contractor removed this classified information unthoshzed from his workplace and

hackers allegedly identified the highly-as soon astive sensitive documents from the kaspersky labs software. the incident apparently occurred in 2015 but was just discovered last spring. >>> and the tsa says this past summer was the busiest in the history of the tsa, which is 16 years, more than 239 million travelers and crew members were screened. between the wednesday before memorial day and the day after labor day. the busiest day was the friday before the fourth of july. it was also a number four all-time at 2.6 million screenings. >> wow. >>> and holding a meeting on space exploration can be hard, using a high-priced escalator to get to that meeting is harder. >> saudi arabia's king salman had a little glitch. the golden escalator there leading from the 747 came to a grinding halt. >> ah-oh. >> the king and his aides look a little puzzled. what do you do next? you walk, right? >> what do these stairs that don't move? they're just stairs. after about 20 seconds they finally decided to walk the rest of the way. >> don't you hate when that happens? >> i wonder at what point they thought,

comment from kaspersky a laboratory saying these accusations are groundless let's take a listen kaspersky lab has never held its nor will help any government in the world with cyber espionage efforts. well chris parrish the private held russia based company has been repeatedly accused of being involved in particular spying activity since two thousand and fifteen but it's interesting that we haven't heard about any solid evidence of that but that we still keep on hearing such accusations but the development is a german it is a cyber agency found no evidence to that but i guess it's not for the last time that we hear about that. well the way is to be seen maria for national in berlin thank you very much indeed thank you. now thousands of people are protesting across catalonia on spain's national day as the impasse over the region's future continues the spanish prime minister has set a monday deadline for the council on president to decide whether or not the region has adopted a declaration of independence has are to use an assessor check it out in barcelona . because the iconic sensual must cla

one example is the use of kaspersky's labs antivirus software on u.s. government systems. kaspersky lab has reported links to russian intelligence, and its base in moscow subjects client data to the kremlin's intrusive surveillance and interception laws. we just had a recent report of kaspersky's role in a successful russian cyber operation to steal classified information from an nsa employee's home computer. and yet they remained on the list of approved software for way too long. now, this committee put an amendment in the ndaa that would have prohibited the use of that software by the department of defense, and i am pleased that finally we have seen the administration act on that. but i think it really raises the question of how we got to this point. so what standards were used in approving kaspersky lab as an appropriate choice to fill the u.s. government's antivirus protection needs? does the government vet the origins and foreign business dealings of cybersecurity firms and software companies before these products are used in our systems, and are companies looking to

it were able to do so because the person used russian-based kaspersky labs software.t was not discovered until spring of last year. the nsa and kremlin have inclined to comment. up next week continue our coverage of amazon's efforts to take on fedex and ups. we talked to the ceo aimed to disrupt the delivery game. we are live streaming on twitter weekdays 5:00 p.m. in new york, 2:00 p.m. in san francisco. this is bloomberg. ♪ emily: before cooper's license was revoked in london last month, sales were rising in the region. uber's revenue rose. it was a 59% jump from the previous year. they continue to operate in london while they seek an appeal to the stripping of its license to operate there. we just covered amazon stepping up its religious tickle operations by testing out a new delivery service. who can go up against the tech giant? box, just focusing on bulk items is taking aim at amazon. the ceo joins us now from new york. amazon is the elephant in your room. what does this mean for you? >> it is a small room. it can fit everyone. emily: what is this change, the fa

wanted through the contractor's use of a popular anti-virus software made by russia -- based kaspersky labsof dollars of sales in the united states. but last month you might remember the government ordering anti-virus software off all u.s. government computers. due to alleged links of kaspersky and russian intelligence. you might remember there was a hearing in may, the director of national intelligence and the nsa chief all personally asked if they would use the software on their own computers. the answer -- down the line, from fbi, cia, dni, uniformly, the answer was, nyet, nyet, no way. no. kaspersky denied there's any reason to work and not an instrument aft russian government. in july, nbc's richard engel interviewed the ceo of the lab who it should be noted was trained by the kgb. but he claimed any cooperation with the kremlin was purely defensive in nature. >> never been asked to cooperate in an offensive operation with russian intelligence? >> zero. we are cooperating with the russian agency responsible for the cyber crime investigations. not with their spying, not all their -- we

it starts with a company called kaspersky lab. they make anti-virus software. they are a russian companies but a lot of american companies and government agencies have used their software. >> here is the thing about this. what happens is russia -- kaspersky helped iran in a virus find it remediated. we should have been worried about their intentions from the beginning. they take a copy of files that they think are suspicious and send them back to their labs in russia. it creates a google environment. you collect this data. anti-virus scans all your files. giving somebody the master key to everything. they look at all your files and the russian intelligence services did is search for known programs names. when they had all the code on the laptop illegally they found it. the needle in the hay stack. it paid off big time. >> jon: the state department used kaspersky software. the department of defense, military agencies, it is unbelievable the number of u.s. government agencies that were running this russian software. >> what is more unbelievable we knew that kasper

and this contractor was using a russian made antivirus software on his home computer made by kaspersky labsapparently it was flagged through a relationship with kaspersky and then stole it from this contractor resulting in a hugely damaging loss to the national security agency and the u.s. government. and this is more than just defending against cyber attacks. this is also going to affect my sources tell me nsa's offensive operations, our ability to eavesdrop on communications and hack computers around the world, katy. >> ken dilanian, thank you very much. from this, russian hackers able to steal nsa cyber information to facebook, which says it will not release thousands of russian purchased ads that targeted voters in last year's election. keep in mind special counsel robert mueller has those ads, so do both the house and senate intelligence committees which are investigating russian meddling. and then there are the 10 million facebook users who saw the more than 3,000 ads ahead of election day. joining me now is fellow at the wilson centers kennen institute in an expert in russian disinfo

evidence of this according to reuters there is no evidence that russian hackers use kaspersky kaspersky lab antivirus software to spy on us authorities now conspiracies because firstly is not the only antivirus program out there that's being targeted and being said things are going on and in fact hackers are looking at these antivirus programs to use to get into places but so far so good. you know at least from with this product that we haven't really had any make massive breaches but it's china it's russia's developers there you can be sure that the u.s. is going to be targeting them and that's exactly what's happening here there's again really no foundation to this but they're pushing this forward anyway alex i'm curious to know what is casper state lab doing to combat these unproven allegations . well they're doing a lot and how far they will get with it that's a different question because when somebody throws allegations out there like this prove it or not it's very hurtful we all know that and it doesn't matter if it's the computer game or whatever industry you're in what he's trying i

so what standards were used in approving kaspersky labs as an appropriate choice to fill the escarpments antivirus protection needs? does the government that the origins and foreign business dealings of cybersecurity firms and software companies before these products are used in our systems? and her companies looking to contract with the us government required to disclose all there for subcontractors as well as their works and you do with foreign governments and maybe a threat to the united states? so i will throw those questions out to whether would like to answer them. >> thank you for the question. as you know the directive we issued several weeks ago just over a month now, 30 some odd days ago, required federal civilian agencies identify casper c products if they have them and it led played governmt and over 90 days. what that tells me is we saw a lot of work to do in terms of the processes that are in place, to assess technology products that on this of a speedy i create that's what i'm asking those questions. i don't mean to enter up but i've limited time and what it would like to

so what standards were used in approving kaspersky labs as an appropriate choice to fill the escarpments antivirus protection needs? does the government that the origins and foreign business dealings of cybersecurity firms and software companies before these products are used in our systems? and her companies looking to contract with the us government required to disclose all there for subcontractors as well as their works and you do with foreign governments and maybe a threat to the united states? so i will throw those questions out to whether would like to answer them. >> thank you for the question. as you know the directive we issued several weeks ago just over a month now, 30 some odd days ago, required federal civilian agencies identify casper c products if they have them and it led played governmt and over 90 days. what that tells me is we saw a lot of work to do in terms of the processes that are in place, to assess technology products that on this of a speedy i create that's what i'm asking those questions. i don't mean to enter up but i've limited time and what it would like to

so what standards were used in approving kaspersky labs as an appropriate choice to fill the escarpments antivirus protection needs? does the government that the origins and foreign business dealings of cybersecurity firms and software companies before these products are used in our systems? and her companies looking to contract with the us government required to disclose all there for subcontractors as well as their works and you do with foreign governments and maybe a threat to the united states? so i will throw those questions out to whether would like to answer them. >> thank you for the question. as you know the directive we issued several weeks ago just over a month now, 30 some odd days ago, required federal civilian agencies identify casper c products if they have them and it led played governmt and over 90 days. what that tells me is we saw a lot of work to do in terms of the processes that are in place, to assess technology products that on this of a speedy i create that's what i'm asking those questions. i don't mean to enter up but i've limited time and what it would like to

kaspersky denied there's any reason to work and not an instrument aft russian government. in july, nbc's richard engel interviewed the ceo of the labshould be noted was trained by the kgb. but he claimed any cooperation with the kremlin was purely defensive in nature. >> never been asked to cooperate in an offensive operation with russian intelligence? >> zero. we are cooperating with the russian agency responsible for the cyber crime investigations. not with their spying, not all their -- we get defensive part. not with offensive. zero contacts with offensive agencies in russian intelligence. >> well, today, he responded to the report about theirv. in an incredibly offensive russian intelligence operation targeting the nsa calling it a false accusation. whatever the role turns out to have been in this, this reporting marks the first known instance, at least the first reported instance of the products being used to conduct high-level espionage against the united states. the journal's reporters say today u.s. investigators determined that armed with the knowledge of casperky software they honed in on the home computer and obtained a