we also have kate connor, housing implementation department, and kate hannairs manager with the planning department. we also have up front kevin birmingham, acting chief building inspector with dbirrie mcelroy senior building inspector and plans examiner. the board meeting guidelines are as follows. the you turn off or silence all phones and other electronic proceedings. no eating or drinking in the hearing room. the rules of follows. appellant's permit holders and department respondents each to present their case and three minutes for rebuttal. people affiliated with the parties must include their comments within the 7 to 3 minute periods rehearing requests. the parties are given three minutes each f the public who are not affiliated with the parties havo address the board and no rebuttal. mr. longway, our legal assi 30s before your time is up. four votes are required to grant modify a permit or determination, or to grant a rehearing request. if you have any questions about requesting a rehearing, the board rules or hearing email board staff at board of appeals at sfgov. org now public