i up being a race between john swinney kate forbes?— kate forbes? f kate has declared yet whether - kate forbes? i don't know if kate has declared yet whether she'll i has declared yet whether she'll enter the competition or not. as i said, i would enter the competition or not. as i said, iwould be enter the competition or not. as i said, i would be very keen to see john swinney do this, he has the experience and gravitas, and he certainly would be able to work with other parties within parliament. brute other parties within parliament. we are grateful for your time on bbc are gratefulfor your time on bbc news, many thanks. let's talk to our political correspondent nick eardley, who's at westminster. what's the general reaction to all this? �* , , , .. , this? it's interesting because obviously. — this? it's interesting because obviously, this _ this? it's interesting because obviously, this stuff - this? it's interesting because obviously, this stuff matters| this? it's interesting because| obviously, this stuff matters a this? it's interesting beca

that is not the maybe work with kate forbes? that is rrot the case- — maybe work with kate forbes? with kate forbes? that is not the case. what will _ maybe work with kate forbes? that is not the case. what will follow - maybe work with kate forbes? that is not the case. what will follow humza | not the case. what will follow humza yousaf as another snp first leader or minister he is committed to independence. they are committed to breaking up great britain. they are not focused on scotland because my priorities. scotland is the highest taxed part of the uk, yet the snp's single priority is independence so that will not change, regardless of who replaces humza yousaf as first minister. ., , , , , ., minister. holly ridge is set up to have a coalition _ minister. holly ridge is set up to have a coalition of _ minister. holly ridge is set up to have a coalition of parties - minister. holly ridge is set up to have a coalition of parties to - have a coalition of parties to enable her to have power. will you keep fighting a minority snp government even if it does have a knock—on effect

james: but what about kate forbes, the former finance secretary who ran mr. close in the contest a little over a year ago? she is said to be thinking about running for the job. but the greens, whose support she might need, are not fans of her agenda. >> it is entirely up to the smp to decide who they want to leave their party. it is for them to decide what kind of party they want to be. do they want to continue to be a progressive party? do they continue to want to make income tax fair? do they continue to wa to work for the climate and danger emergencies? or do they want to make a different direction? james: as he found out, governing his heart. but -- is hard. but governing without a majority is much harder. christian: with us to discuss, brian taylor, columnist for the harold, and where would we be on a night like this without sir john curtis. welcome to you both. brian, we should focus on what comes next. how will a new first minister be elected and how quickly? brian: the smp's national executive will meet this week to set up the national timetable and t

kate forbes, i think she is weighing it up forbes, i think she is weighing it up this lunchtime.ade his announcement but there is a decent prospect of her standing if she can find a way to get the support of another party to stay in power. i don't think the westminster leader stephen flynn will stand, there was some speculation he might fancy doing it this time. i don't think that is the case, too hard to do thejob when think that is the case, too hard to do the job when you are in westminster. if few other potential candidates from a group of snps. it candidates from a group of snps. it is onlyjust over a year ago that humza yousaf became first minister. it has been a disaster. it is quite hard to escape that because on numerous occasions, humza yousaf has tried to seize the political initiative to get back on the front foot, to announce big policies he hoped would capture the political imagination. he has failed to do it. a lot of snp politicians would tell you and they have a point he was dealt a pretty bad hand. he came in at a time when the snp were starting to see a few iss

but what about kate forbes. _ the days to come. but what about kate forbes, the _ the days to come.s, the former - the days to come. but what about kate forbes, the former finance l kate forbes, the formerfinance secretary who ran humza yousaf so close in the leadership contest a little over a year ago? she is said to be thinking about running for the job. but the greens, whose support she might need, are not fans of her agenda. she might need, are not fans of her aaenda. , , , ., ,, agenda. it is entirely up to the snp to decide who _ agenda. it is entirely up to the snp to decide who they _ agenda. it is entirely up to the snp to decide who they want _ agenda. it is entirely up to the snp to decide who they want to - agenda. it is entirely up to the snp to decide who they want to lead - to decide who they want to lead their party, it is for them to decide what kind of party they want to be. do they want to continue to be a progressive party? do they want to continue to make income tax fair? do they want to continue to work for the climate emergency? or do they want to take a diffe

—— would you back kate forbes? i you back eight forbes? -- would you back kate forbes?es? i will wait and see who the candidates - back kate forbes? i will wait and see who the candidates before i l see who the candidates before i decide. �* . ., see who the candidates before i decide. �* _, i. see who the candidates before i decide. �* | decide. but could you back her? i have said. _ decide. but could you back her? i have said. i _ decide. but could you back her? i have said, i will— decide. but could you back her? i have said, i will wait _ decide. but could you back her? i have said, i will wait and - decide. but could you back her? i have said, i will wait and see. - have said, i will wait and see. isn�*t what people in scotland went back to basics, as it were? economy, cost of living. it is not actually about gender politics, identity politics or environmental radicalism.— politics or environmental radicalism. ., ., radicalism. you say that, we brought in the trial payment, _ radicalism. you say that, we brought in the trial payment, which _ radicalism. you say tha

but what about kate forbes, the former finance secretary who ran mr yousaf so close in the leadershipo? she is said to be thinking about running for the job. but the greens, whose support she might need, are not fans of her agenda. it is entirely up to the snp to decide who they want to lead their party, it is for them to decide what kind of party they want to be. do they want to continue to be a progressive party? do they want to continue to make income tax fair? to work for the climate and nature emergencies? or do they want to take a different direction? as he found out, governing is hard, but governing without a majority is much harder. james cook, bbc news, edinburgh. with us tonight our regular panellist brian taylor, political commentator and columnist for the herald. and of course where would we be on a night like this without the great sirjohn curtice, professor of politics at the university of strathclyde? welcome to you both. brian, if i can start to do, we should focus on what comes next. how will a new first minister be elected and how quickly? the snp national executive

kate forbes said she would do — everything kate forbes said she would do as— everything kate forbeseverything kate forbes said she would do as leader when she i everything kate forbes said shel would do as leader when she ran against _ would do as leader when she ran against you _ would do as leader when she ran against yon-— would do as leader when she ran auainst ou. ., , , . , , against you. no, this is leadership. this is demonstrating _ against you. no, this is leadership. this is demonstrating what - against you. no, this is leadership. this is demonstrating what is - against you. no, this is leadership. this is demonstrating what is in - against you. no, this is leadership. | this is demonstrating what is in the best interests of this government moving forward, what is in the interests of the party. i will continue to talk to colleagues across my party, whether they are msps, mps, councillors, and take the party forward together. i'm proud of the progress we have made as a party in my first year of leadership. i don't withdraw one iota away from the equality progress we have

kate forbes was defeated in the contest last year to become leader. might she stand again? neil gray's name is also being mentioned, as is stephen flynn, although he is at westminster. what aboutjohn swinney? speaking earlier, he wasn't giving much away. obviously there's a lot to happen today, so i suppose we should hear what the first minister has got to say today. from constituents in glasgow, there is. i from constituents in glasgow, there is. ., �* ~' from constituents in glasgow, there is. ., �* ~ ., from constituents in glasgow, there is. i don't think it was the man for the “ob. is. i don't think it was the man for the job. absolutely _ is. i don't think it was the man for the job. absolutely delighted, - is. i don't think it was the man for the job. absolutely delighted, he | the 'ob. absolutely delighted, he has the job. absolutely delighted, he has set scotland _ the job. absolutely delighted, he has set scotland back _ the job. absolutely delighted, he has set scotland back years. - the job. absolutely delighted, he has set scotland back years. i - the job. abso

you may know the faces, kate forbes run last time, of. faces, kate forbes run last time, of course, tofor so how could that happen? it could happen, they are secretive about their roles, but he has himself had said it isn't ideal to have an mp leading a party when they are in government, and of course there are others who think perhaps there are others who think perhaps the party should look to the past andindeed the party should look to the past and indeed someone likejohn swinney, former leader, former deputy first minister and nicola sturgeon, as a sort of caretaker or even veteran parliamentarian like angus robertson or keith brown. i should say that humza yousaf doesn't want to get anywhere near thinking about these people but its national sum told me tonight he's effectively facing a tsunami and we do not know now what will be happening at the end of next week when the waters recede, i suppose, end of next week when the waters recede, isuppose, will end of next week when the waters recede, i suppose, will he survive or potentially will he have been washed away? ais a is the way l

i think ou know a moment for kate forbes? i think you know any _ a moment for kate forbes?ow any first minister - a moment for kate forbes? i think you know any first minister who i you know any first minister who faces a vote of no confidence cannot stay if that vote is going to go against him. i would expect if he thinks before the vote next week it is going to go against him, he would choose down and the snp would be faced with picking a new leader, that could be kate forbes. it is hard to see who else would want to stand for that position now. but a lot has happened today and a lot can happen in a week. the independence movement is not happy tonight, with three parties who say they support independence fighting with each other and there is a chance for people to put that back together. what if labour call a vote of no confidence in the government? ltinfoil confidence in the government? well actually patrick _ confidence in the government? -ii actually patrick harvie made clear that he would vote against the first minister in a vote of no confidence, but wouldn't vote ag

and that is the reality of where we are. >> and that's why it can't be kate forbes because of her viewsetc, which are what might might be issues there with the green party. well, i think that that illustrates precisely what the problem is. >> so kate forbes, who came tantalisingly close to winning the leadership election the last time, is being excluded from the race by patrick harvie and his green party colleagues . and green party colleagues. and that's that's a really a matter of deep concern and should concern every single snp , concern every single snp, member, because that's not how internal party democracy is supposed to function when you can't have another party. interfering with your internal processes and sadly, that's where this whole shambles has led the snp to, has it set back the cause of independence, i don't think i mean, it's not helped . let's just get that out helped. let's just get that out of the way first. it's not helped. and but, you know, the independence movement is setting north of 50% and has been for quite some time. during that time, the numbers for the snp

there have already been names in the frame, we have heard about kate forbes.yusuf last time. also john swinney, who has been leader of the party before. he didn't stand last time but he has been encouraged to stand this time. other names in the frame, education secretaryjenny gould ruth, the coach secretary. this has moved on quite quickly from humza yousaf who has just in the last few minutes announced his resignation as first minister of scotland. ., ~ , ., �* , ., resignation as first minister of scotland. ., ~ �*, ., ., scotland. thank you. let's go to nick eardley _ scotland. thank you. let's go to nick eardley at _ scotland. thank you. let's go to nick eardley at westminster. i scotland. thank you. let's go to l nick eardley at westminster. your first reaction to that. an emotional speech at times from humza yousaf. it was. you often get those moments of emotion towards these resignation speech is. what i thought was interesting was humza yousaf was trying to put a bit of a positive spin on this. to say, i think i could have got through that vote later t

john swinney and kate forbes have emerged as favourites to take over the top job.as nowhere left for humza yousaf to go. his leadership fatally wounded, not by his party or by the voters, but by himself. and so this admission that his time as first minister had come to an end. i am not willing to trade my values and principles or do deals with whomever simply for retaining power. therefore, after spending the weekend reflecting on what is best for my party, for the government and for the country i lead, i've concluded that repairing a relationship across the political divide can only be done with someone else at the helm. msps will have 28 days to find his replacement or an election is called, and the names of possible contenders are already emerging. i'm giving very careful consideration to standing to be the leader of the snp. i've been somewhat overwhelmed by the requests that have been made of me to do that. scottish national party leader... kate forbes narrowly lost out to humza yousaf in the contest, which saw him become leader. she is said to be considering

kate forbes, who ran against humza yousaf in the leadership contest which he won, and alsojohn swinney minister here in scotland and a seasoned minister of the scottish parliament here too. so the conversation seems to be going around them and different people already showing their backing, particularly a lot of backing behind john swinney. our conversations will doubt go on about the direction the party wants to go in, two very different candidates with different attitudes — kate forbes, with her social attitudes were one of the reasons why it was deemed that, did not win the leadership contest last time, and john swinney, a safe hand in scottish politics with lots of experience. that's the conversation that many scottish proletarians will be having over the coming days. laura, thank you very much indeed for that. let's go to the middle east — where there are renewed hopes of a breakthrough between israel and hamas, after weeks of stalemate between the two sides. the us secretary of state says he's hopeful hamas will accept an israeli proposalfor a ceasefire and hostage deal in gaza.

it was expected that he would give kate forbes a senior role in government.ry. that was seen by some as a demotion. it wasn't necessarily seen by kate forbes in that way, but she said there were issues in terms of government policy and she didn't feel she could take up the post of rural affairs secretary because of her disagreements with government. there has been some concern among rebels in the party about the direction of the government and long—standing concerns about the bute house agreement with the greens. some in the party believe the agreement has led to a drop in support for the snp. but there are also controversies over some policies such as the deposit returns again, a recycling scheme, opposed by people like a former cabinet secretary who is now a prominent snp rebel. the scheme was scrapped. there have also been concerns about a movement to restrict fishing in some communities, and that was also shelved amid concerns from fishermen that it was going to damage their industry. again, that was a policy which many in the snp were glad to see the bac

mr swinney, are you going to meet kate forbes?eople, so we'll leave it. thank you. i'm still weighing everything up. thanks very much. is she running? is he running? who knows? i have a lot of personal circumstances to think about to make sure that, a, it would be the right decision for my family to do this. so i'm giving that all a great deal of thought, and to make sure i come to the right decision for my family, my party and my country. well, i'm still obviously- considering all the options, i've not ruled anything out. i'm conscious that i do- have a groundswell of support amongst the members, _ and these things need to be weighed up, not least whether this i is the right time for the party and the right decision for the country. - mr swinney has packed a lot of politics into his 60 years. he's been both right hand man, and — two decades ago — party leader himself. now, he's under intense pressure to run for the office again. he is the man. he has, i believe, what we need right now. he has the characteristics. he has the skill

it 3 interesting because kate forbes is someone people are talking about, she stood against humza yousafople think if the countryside gone on longer, she may have tipped into the post. she was also a controversial figure, particularly social issues like gay marriage was not so lots of people will be looking at her, but the question is if she did when, there's a last section of the activist —based who do like what she stands for, but there'll be others, particularly amongst younger voters, who might end up like what she stands for unsocial and equality issues. whoever succeeds will not have a majority and would have to try to get some sort of deal with other parties, ironically the green party, to try to get them through. the greens see kate forbes might be difficult for them to work with, and john sweeney is the other people people are talking about. it is a phrase in english politics, demanding grace suits, he seen as the man in a great kids, been around for a long time, a great survivor and experienced and could be a series share of hands is an sp leader to take them through the next g

who might replace him as first minister, well, the name that is being, quite an obvious one, is kate forbesowly lost to humza yousaf in the snp leadership contest which saw him become leader, that happened in march last year. when the scottish greens, they don't like her stance on a number of social issues. it is possible she could govern by doing deals elsewhere with other parties if she was to win the leadership election. our political correspondent in scotland is hearing from the scottish conservatives that they could work with kate forbes him some policy areas but want to see independence take a back—seat. another name that is doing the rounds is that of the former deputy first ministerjohn swinney. our political correspondent has been hearing this. he is seen widely as a safe pair of pants in the party, but he didn't want the job last time around so we would have to say things have changed. stephen flynn is another name. he is the party westminster leader. he can't be first minister from westminster, but he could technically lead the snp if humza yousaf goes as party leader. it is all

kate forbes was defeated in the contest allows you to become leader. might she stand again?ioned, as is stephen flynn, although he is at westminster. what aboutjohn swinney? speaking earlier, he wasn't giving much away. swinney? speaking earlier, he wasn't giving much away-— giving much away. obviously there is a lot to happen _ giving much away. obviously there is a lot to happen today _ giving much away. obviously there is a lot to happen today so _ giving much away. obviously there is a lot to happen today so i _ giving much away. obviously there is a lot to happen today so i suppose i a lot to happen today so i suppose we should — a lot to happen today so i suppose we should hear what the first minister— we should hear what the first minister has to say today. humza yousaf remains _ minister has to say today. humza yousaf remains as _ minister has to say today. humza yousaf remains as first _ minister has to say today. humza yousaf remains as first minister. yousaf remains as first minister until a successor can be found. in office for barely a year, he said he was honou

there is a lot of talk about kate forbes - lot of talk about kate forbes standing this time.lective of that contest last year, which made a lot of headlines, it made job is easy for the likes— headlines, it made job is easy for the likes of— headlines, it made job is easy for the likes of yourself! but for folk in the _ the likes of yourself! but for folk in the partyjust now, it is up to them _ in the partyjust now, it is up to them to— in the partyjust now, it is up to them to decide what they want to do. i've them to decide what they want to do. we got— them to decide what they want to do. we got my— them to decide what they want to do. i've got my views, i would like to see john — i've got my views, i would like to see john take over, i hope you can be convinced, i hope you wants to take on— be convinced, i hope you wants to take on this — be convinced, i hope you wants to take on this opportunity, and it is a big _ take on this opportunity, and it is a big opportunity, a big the scottish— a big opportunity, a big the scottish national party has a proud record _ scottish

new leader — among the likely candidates, party grandeejohn swinney and former leadership rival kate forbeswe'll be finding out what it means, for scotland and the wider uk, with james cook and chris mason. also on the programme tonight... two men appear in court charged with murder, after a torso was discovered in a nature reserve. flooding devastates countries in east africa — we're in kenya where 130,000 people have been displaced. and any ideas what this is? it's roman, believed to be 1,700 years old and is baffling experts. and on newsnight at 10:30... we'll go deeper behind the headlines and speak live to key players on today's big stories. plus, we take a first look at what's on tomorrow's front pages. good evening and welcome to the bbc news at ten, live from the holyrood parliament in edinburgh, at the end of a tumultuous day in scottish politics. tonight, the search is under way for a new first minister and snp leader, after humza yousaf announced he was standing downing afterjust 13 months in office. his politicalfuture had been uncertain since thursday, when he ended the snp's p

they arejohn swinney, and kate forbes. john swinney, and kate forbes.close next monday. thank you very much, lorna. we will be speaking to the westminster leader of the snp in half an hour. now more of the day's news withjon. king charles will visit a cancer treatment centre today in his first major public engagement since his own diagnosis with the disease in february. he'll be accompanied by queen camilla and is said to be "greatly encouraged" to be resuming some of his duties. here's our royal correspondent sean coughlan. the news about king charles�*s cancer treatment has been much more positive, enough for the king to begin a return to public events today. with the queen at his side, they'll be at a symbolic location, a hospital with a specialist centre for cancer. the king's visit will try to raise awareness of the importance of early diagnosis and by going public about his own health problems, the king had hoped to encourage others to get health checks. apart from an appearance on easter sunday, the king has mostly stayed away from public events

kate forbes narrowly lost out to humza yousaf in the contest, which saw him become leader.o be considering another bid. itjust hasn't gone well. and when things go badly, it's time for a change. and the time for kate has now come. there are some who now argue that this political implosion could be an opportunity for scotland's party of government for over 15 years to get back on the front foot. it has the potential to bounce back. this could turn the fortunes of the snp if, and only if, they can come together really quickly, put an end to the bickering and the sniping that's taken place for the last 12 months. and who could ask for a better country to lead than scotland? humza yousaf�*s successor will face significant challenges, leading a minority government and trying to unite a party bruised by political own goals and soon to face the verdict of voters in a general election. lorna gordon, bbc news, edinburgh. we will speak to lorna gordon live from hollywood soon, but first let's look at iran. a teenagerfound dead during high—profile anti—government protests in the count

the other person who is considering standing is kate forbes, the former finance secretary. very close, getting 48% of the vote, and her supporters argue that she would appeal beyond the snp to the wider population, although there are concerns about some of her socially conservative views on issues like 93)’ conservative views on issues like gay marriage. so, so far, unclear whether they'll be joined by anyone else, in fact it's not even clear that there will be a contest — it could be that we have a coronation, and if that's the case, scotland could have a new first minister as soon as next tuesday. we could have a new first minister as soon as next tuesday.— could have a new first minister as soon as next tuesday. we will watch that particular _ soon as next tuesday. we will watch that particular aspect _ soon as next tuesday. we will watch that particular aspect of _ soon as next tuesday. we will watch that particular aspect of it _ that particular aspect of it all, but whoever emerges as the new first minister, huge challenges lay ahead. yes, all the issues that have bee

kate forbes is probably— you can imagine.t probably the best option they have got but _ probably the best option they have got but again, they are behind the eight _ got but again, they are behind the eight batt— got but again, they are behind the eight ball with her because they green _ eight ball with her because they green party will never bow down to her in _ green party will never bow down to her in a _ green party will never bow down to her in a million years. the}r green party will never bow down to her in a million years.— her in a million years. they will not bow down _ her in a million years. they will not bow down to _ her in a million years. they will not bow down to her _ her in a million years. they will not bow down to her because i her in a million years. they will. not bow down to her because they are, as they would put it, a radical and progressive party and kate forbes, many people say is highly competent and a great politician but socially conservative, against gender legislation, not a supporter of equal

the scottish people like kate forbes, the snp, liked kate forbes, the snp, liked kate forbes and whoing about john swinney? right, so, so obviously i was in the office earlier today because i was i was covering the 12 till three. i just was in there. i was just just between you and me. right, and so we got wind at like 9:30, 10:00 this morning that john swinney was going to do a press conference afterwards. so we knew that was happening. this is way before humza yousaf has resigned. right. so we're all waiting on tenterhooks and then eventually the press conference comes and it's not a conference. he comes out like he's just like people have almost doorstepped him. he's not. he's called them all there right ? and he goes, all there right? and he goes, i'm considering it. i'm really considering it. i'm considering it. i'm really considering it . we all know. we considering it. we all know. we know that you called that press conference. you called it like you had an announcement to make everyone, everyone . why do you everyone, everyone. why do you think we were that? no one, no one th

i quite like kate forbes . i felt she like kate forbes. i felt she i think some of the things she said were a little bit controversial. >> she was crucified because she had, she was honest and said she didn't believe in sex outside of marriage and she didn't believe in same sex marriages. >> well, she was a bit weird, let's be honest. in the 21st century, she's entitled to her view. >> she's very christian, to her fact that she told us honestly what she felt, even if it was going to be controversial. >> and i mean, i think she was the nearest thing the snp had to a sensible person. yeah, but scotland will be rejoicing today because usaf is doing the first sensible thing he's ever done. and that's resign. he's completely useless. he's made a mess of everything he's done, and the snp are responsible for doing huge damage to scotland, which is far worse off than england because of the snp. nobody else. the snp are to blame for the appalling decline in education, the rising crime, the terrible drug deaths and also which, as a scot, i find deep

james: what about kate forbes, the former finance secretary? she said to be thinking about the job.reens are not fans of her agenda. >> it is entirely up to the smp to decide who they want to leave their party. it is for them to decide what kind of party they want to be. james: as he found out, governing his heart, but governing without a majority is much harder. james cook, bbc news. caitriona: that is it for today. keep up-to-date as always on bbc.com/news. for the moment, i'm caitriona perry. thank you for watching. do stay with us. ♪ announcer: funding for presentation of this program is provided by... financial services firm, raymond james. cunard is a proud supporter of public television. announcer: funding was also provided by, the freeman foundation. and by judy and peter blum kovler foundation, pursuing solutions for america's neglected needs. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ announcer: get the free pbs app now and stream the best of pbs. amna: good evening. i'm amna nawaz. geoff: and i'm geoff bennett. on the “newshour” tonight, hamas considers the latest ceasefire proposal as israeli leaders brac

. >> it would have been if they'd picked kate forbes rather than this idiot, because she was a reallyically sound person. and she wasn't into all this lunacy. she was a christian. so of course they couldn't. >> and hence, there we go. let's remind us of just quickly, let's remind us of just quickly, let's remind ourselves why they didn't. right. because this was when all the trans nonsense was going on, and nicola sturgeon and kate forbes came out and despite the fact that humza yousaf conveniently missed a vote on gay marriage , alex vote on gay marriage, alex salmond later said was due to coming under religious pressure, humza yousaf himself says of course he had an important meeting that day and despite the fact that he'd missed that, that didn't count against him. but kate forbes saying i would vote against this, but i'm not going to try and overturn the law, which is basically fine. i've just got principles you couldn't have or could they? >> no, but she was actually saying and she had her head screwed on about the economy and so on. so the snp now, as we're saying, likely to be

now, of course, on top of him we also have kate forbes . she is also have kate forbes. favourite, due in part because of how close she came to humza yousaf. the last time. but it feels at this point that this almost an annual snp leadership race. i really hope that i don't have to put this month into my calendar at this time. >> we've got john swinney here. let's take it away. >> i decided to step down. >> i decided to step down. >> he's been a pioneer as first minister, the first person of colour to hold the office of first minister of scotland, and he's led our country with empathy, with care and with an emphasis always on bringing people together. so i very much regret the fact that he felt it necessary today to stand down. >> some of your senior colleagues urging you to stand to try and get the snp back into a more stable position. are you going to do it? >> i'm giving very careful consideration to standing to be the leader of the snp. i've been somewhat overwhelmed by the requests that have been made of me to do that, with many , many me to do that, with many, many

she's currently fourth in the poll i saw kate forbes is second and neil, i would say kate forbes, whoe neck and neck with holmes initially and she was two, two presbyterian or something for them. >> yeah, they said old kirk christian, although actually she does well with muslims. >> really , because they like >> really, because they like that she's just open about her faith. obviously she's somewhat conservative on on certain social issues, so they tend to prefer that . whereas, swinney prefer that. whereas, swinney i'm not, you know, like, yeah, gilruth's doing well. forbes apparently is just not the right time for her. so i've heard, but who knows. you hear these also, hasn't this guy, he stepped in for ten minutes before, so he's. >> yeah. he knows a bit of experience. >> yeah. well i mean, i kind of feel like they probably need an englishman to go up there and run it for them, get them back on track, go back in the eu, which i always thought the most perverse position independence. >> but in the eu it's nonsense. >> but in the eu it's nonsense. >> well, i you're all right. somebod

but what about kate forbes, the former finance secretary who ran mr yousaf so close in the leadershipbout running for the job. but the greens, whose support she might need, are not fans of her agenda. it is entirely up to the snp to decide who they want to lead their party. it's for them to decide what kind of party they want to be. do they want to continue to be a progressive party? do they continue to want to make income tax fair? to work for the climate and nature emergencies? or do they want to take a different direction? as he found out, governing is hard, but governing without a majority is much harder. james cook, bbc news, edinburgh. around the world and across the uk. this is bbc news. devastating floods have hit several countries in east africa after weeks of heavy rain. the red cross say around 50 people were killed in central kenya after a makeshift dam collapsed during the night following torrential rainfall. our africa correspondent barbara plett usher has the latest from the scene. the tide of water woke people up with its roar of destruction. no time to scramble out of

kate forbes and john swinney.s whether they are actually going to go for a race, whether we're knuckling down for another month, another year with us. snp leadership race. >> okay, tony mcguire, thanks for that. update on the bid to succeed humza yousaf as the next first minister. now moving on, the nhs is to declare that sex is a matter of biology in a landmark shift against gender ideology , changes to the health ideology, changes to the health service's written constitution proposed by ministers will for the first time ban trans people from women only wards and give women the right to request a female doctor for more intimate care. well, the new constitution will state we are defining sex as biological sex, and we're going to have a debate on this. and joining me now to debate it is the human rights campaigner and the activist peter tatchell , and the activist peter tatchell, and the activist peter tatchell, and the activist peter tatchell, and the co—founder and the ceo of sex matters may have forced doctor. w

the former finance secretary, kate forbes, who narrowly lost out to humza yousaf in the contest to becomees she is socially conservative, others praise her honesty and authenticity. neither have yet decided that they will stand, but whoever takes over as leader of the snp faces some pretty hefty challenges ahead. some problems that have been building for some time — how to reunite this party that for so long has been known for its discipline, how to govern at the head of a minority government. for now, humza yousaf remains as first minister until his successor can be found. ., ., ., ~ minister until his successor can be found. ., ., ., ,, the bbc has discovered that staff who abused children in so called �*calming rooms�* at a special school in north east london haven't been sacked. the abuse, recorded on cctv between 2014 and 2017, included children being hit, kicked and locked up for hours. the school says it acted in the best interests of pupils and handed the footage over to the police as soon as it was discovered. noel titheradge has this special report. it's a scandal, because no—on

new leader — among the likely candidates, party grandeejohn swinney and former leadership rival kate forbesear in court charged with murder, after a torso was discovered in a nature reserve. flooding devastates countries in east africa — we're in kenya where 130,000 people have been displaced. and any ideas what this is? it's roman, believed to be 1,700 years old and is baffling experts. and on newsnight at 10:30...

is coming to the fore, john swinney, a former leader and deputy first minister, and the other is kate forbesla sturgeon as first minister. so already a lot of speculation about where that might go, we will wait and see in the coming days. joining me now is stuart nicolson, former adviser to nicola sturgeon. thank you very much forjoining us on bbc news. alex salmond, leader of the pro independence alba party, says that humza yousaf did want to do a deal with his party but forces within the snp were stopping him, suggesting that mr yousaf did want to try and stay as first minister, what are you hearing?— to try and stay as first minister, what are you hearing? well, i have no particular— what are you hearing? well, i have no particular insight _ what are you hearing? well, i have no particular insight into _ what are you hearing? well, i have no particular insight into what - what are you hearing? well, i have no particular insight into what alex j no particular insight into what alex salmond was saying there. i think it is a fact that had humza yousaf sought to do a deal with alba, relying o

yeah, we've heard from particularly those who supported kate forbes.hey've called them wine bar revolutionaries. they are very much extreme , perhaps are very much extreme, perhaps on the left wing of politics. would this allow for humza yousaf to perhaps rule in a more pragmatic way, ditching these green targets, ditching some of the extreme gender policies that are there ? i mean, is that some are there? i mean, is that some good spin there for humza yousaf? >> optimistic spin? because ultimately humza yousaf now is in office but not in power , he in office but not in power, he can't guarantee the votes to do anything as first minister. and what's more than that, he probably jumped before he was pushed , as catherine was saying pushed, as catherine was saying they were going to vote on on disassembling this coalition anyway. he's taken the initiative now to make it look like it was his decision. but having done that, he's really irritated the greens. so on an issue by issue basis , perhaps issue by issue basis, perhaps he's even lost authority and lo

among the likely candidates, party grandeejohn swinney and former leadership rival kate forbes.falling victim to sextortion. it follows a shocking rise in criminals tricking young people into sharing intimate images then blackmailing them. two men appear in court charged with murder after a man's torso is found at a nature reserve in salford.

by the way, when i was talking about ash regan, i meant kate forbes. >> oh, right. okay. >> oh, right. okay. >> i didn't want to say you should have done it. you should have saved me the reason i've got to do this now is because there are a lot of people tweeting me this kate forbes, ash regan. is absolutely fascinating that ash regan is now going to become kingmaker, potentially for humza yousaf. >> we'll find out when we okay. we're going to move on to another question now. and this one is coming from paul. paul, hello. >> hi. in the nhs hospital of my choice, am i still going to be able to do my chest feeding ? able to do my chest feeding? >> yes. paul, your chest feeding. i know it means a lot to you, doesn't it? you're right. >> absolutely. yeah. i was enjoying the hamster , yusuf, but enjoying the hamster, yusuf, but the chest feeding is my lane. >> it's actually quite a big deal because we now have victoria atkins, who's the health secretary. she's saying that she's going to announce this series of changes, because we all know that over the past few years, th

but if kate forbes announced that she's standing and obviously all bets are off, but who?hn in general, you know, looking at the other parties, does one of them stand to gain more than than others? with the demise of the snp ? demise of the snp? >> yeah, well labour certainly are, on the march in scotland at the moment. there was another poll out yesterday which showed them, i think, one point ahead or neck and neck with the snp. as far as holyrood voting intention is concerned, the same goes for westminster, voting intention. the labour are very optimistic about picking up a lot of seats in scotland, at the general election. so yeah , general election. so yeah, labour at the moment are rubbing their hands with glee at at the state of the snp and hoping that they can usurp them as the pre—eminent party north of the border, the conservatives, they're still roughly around about 18, so they're not as well placed as labour to take advantage of the snps troubles. >> i heard sir keir starmer being described yesterday as a very lucky general because he's only had to sit back and

and of course, the other is kate forbes.ust a couple of percent between them. by couple of percent between them. by the time it got to the secondary votes . but indeed secondary votes. but indeed right now, today is the day for scottish politicians to pour their heart out, as it were, for humza yousaf for the time that they had spent nicola sturgeon certainly had some warm words to share on x. now these opposition leaders, douglas ross, well, he said that the job is done for the scottish conservatives at this moment. they will go forward now and they will continue to fight the snp for those crucial election seats as and when the general election is called by westminster. and anas sarwar, leader of the scottish labour party, will he is hungry and then some for a scottish election . he still doesn't election. he still doesn't believe that the scottish national party are fit to be leading scotland, but certainly enough, maybe about the political elite. what about the people here on the ground here at holyrood and at bute house

then you put kate forbes being quite weak. >> i think kate forbes would would , would, would, would wipee other parties. >> she doesn't want gay marriage ehhen >> so it's like you have the progressive that. no, she actually no, she didn't she didn't say she would vote against it. >> yeah. but yeah but but there wasn't but there wasn't going to be a vote on it. and she was she was not going to say that everybody else had to vote against it either. i mean, the irony is that humza yousaf initially missed a vote on gay marriage because he said he had a commitment that he couldn't miss. and then alex salmond said, actually he came said, well, actually he came under religious, under very strong religious, though acts if, you know though she acts as if, you know her religion, her religion doesn't, you know, influence her decisions, but it does. >> so it's kind of if we don't go with the progressive peoples, people don't realise that go even further back with scottish nationalists are actually quite conservative people, believe it or not. >> i lived up there. i worked alongside a lot of them. th