as stated earlier, with the generous support of coit and director kate howard, we have received funding in the engineering and record digitation project. both projects are under way and will be delivered in the budget year. the beauty with the assessment appeals initiative, we're working closely with the assessor chu and her team to streamline the process. this requires technology and changes to our business procedures. we have 175,000 already funded which will be usedder temporary program position to fully complete all aspects of the project. which will include phase five which we have not yet brought to this committee. but current funding will actually take care of both phase four and phase five. records positive tory to get all historic records digitized and rfp forming electronic data management system are being developed and will be issued this year. looking ahead, we have even more important technology projects on the horizon which will discuss further in june. currently, we must put into place a new contract for agenda management system towards end of the second year of the budge

document is being reviewed now with the police chief and the commissioner president loftus with kate howard and we're the beginning of the budget we have cost factors for all of those hthat will be implemented we are adding this to what i've already been committed to i have a robust it program the interrupt policing and the community organizing that has been successful over the past few years in reducing the number of homicides but areas of our city we've yet to reduce that dramatically this is where i challenge the reduction program leaders to take this opportunity to come in with us and see what can work more we're in a good trend but have to do more in education there is more than ideas they're implementing ideas we want to have reflected in the budget the community based violence reduction are key but the rec and park in making sure we have a spring and summer so the kids can be active because i doness will not help and in education we're always trying to find alternatives to additional education that didn't reach all our kids i belive that we have a very good conversation in both publi

process of confirming a date for our budget committee to meet with the mayor's budget director kate howard. i anticipate that will be some time next month during the month of march. not any know staffing changes to report for this reporting period of time. we do anticipate fire fighter keith bracha to introduce himself at the march 9th report. in the process of announcing very soon some acting positions in the ems division which we will be able to report at the next meeting. related to academies, 119th academy is off to a good start. they begin on january 25th, and later we are joining by station no. 49 for a total of 50 members going through the academy with a graduation date in may. followed by the 120 class which is yet to be selected. backgrounds have been pretty much conducted and interviews will take place through the meet and greet in the march and april timeframe. we have members that were a good fit to our department and very instrumental during the staffing of super bowl week. there are 13 members this week that are transitioning to become full time members of our department as e

, the movement of the budget is the negotiation we've established i have a lot of confidence in kate howardn terms of her over with the mayor's office to work us like i said i'd rather have a real number rather than something holding back or not looking at our needs again identifiable whether we can enhance that is a question mr. corso you said with that said, on page 12 based on the fact a number of factors the department is not proposing reductions to the general fund and noorpgsz with the request at this point that's a major stated we talked about that before that we the department not going to fulfill your requests for a one and a half cent cut. >> that's correct the feedback from the budget committee they're not cajole with a reduction especially the needs we have and i've seen the sentiment from the commission if i have the wrong impression please let me know but the based on the operational issues with the increased in call volume and services overall the overall sentiment the department was not confront putting forwards the reductions given the needs. >> my fellow commissioners i'm

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. >> good morning supervisor, michele [inaudible] controller office and joined by kate howard and we are presenting our most recent projegzs on the cities financial status that were issued in december and this is a joint report prepared by the controllers office, mayors office and budget analyst. the shared projection of revenue and expenditures for the next 4 years. the mayors office issued budget instructions and mrs. howard will speak to those. to provide context about why we provide this report and why we prepare the projections it isficial planning that came out of prop a. they [inaudible] and & do more long term financial planning. it says due to the budgeting do long term financial planning including a 5iar plan and 10 year capital plan and gives the controller authority to proposal financials to the board of supervisor for your consideration which we have done to strengthen reserves and codify debt policies and [inaudible] that is the context why we do this report. on the report itself you probably are familiar with it. it says what happen toozory budget if we do continue doi

. >> good morning supervisor, michele [inaudible] controller office and joined by kate howard and we are presenting our most recent projegzs on the cities financial status that were issued in december and this is a joint report prepared by the controllers office, mayors office and budget analyst. the shared projection of revenue and expenditures for the next 4 years. the mayors office issued budget instructions and mrs. howard will speak to those. to provide context about why we provide this report and why we prepare the projections it isficial planning that came out of prop a. they [inaudible] and & do more long term financial planning. it says due to the budgeting do long term financial planning including a 5iar plan and 10 year capital plan and gives the controller authority to proposal financials to the board of supervisor for your consideration which we have done to strengthen reserves and codify debt policies and [inaudible] that is the context why we do this report. on the report itself you probably are familiar with it. it says what happen toozory budget if we do continue doi

the mayor's office and thanks to the mayor and mayor's budget director kate howard has said this is how we want you to submit your budget this year. so this would be our budget this year, regardless, if it does not pass, then going forward we would revert to the old system. >> okay. that is good. >> thank you. >> i had some other questions. >> please. >> so i know there was different ways to arrive at this, at this new budget. and one was more general fund-driven as opposed to a set-aside with property tax. could you tell me why the overriding reason why we hitched our wagon, so to speak, to this type of general fund-driven as opposed to the property tax? >> i'll grab that one, too. there were lots of conversations -- you know, the great thing about this measure, we were in a supportive role. i think we are managing our operations. i think we have articulated the need and we were asked to identify where would he make investments and how we would manage our resourcesin the policy for how it was crafted was crafted in conversations in large part between the mayor, supervisor farrell, and

build on the council has been really critical for us as well, and we've had conversations with kate howard going to do this and resources coming from the school district and also from philanthropy quite frankly. they have been generous making sure we have the tools and personnel to move this worked for, so it is going to be a large burden on our department heads and on the school district side, but this work makes sense, and it can't be different than what we have been doing. it's just going to be better and so why we want to do our work better? so i think the priority piece you're right is going coming from the direction of the mayor and the superintendent but this is where we're asking you to put it on your list as well and this is driven by them but pushed by you. >> great. any other comments? questions as pertain to the 5 year plan? outstanding, thank you so much so for your comments and for your questions. we've taken note and those that we can answer we will and those we can't they're in the hopper and we will get to you. what is the next item? >> just some announcements and the next

build on the council has been really critical for us as well, and we've had conversations with kate howard how we're going to do this and resources coming from the school district and also from philanthropy quite frankly. they have been generous making sure we have the tools and personnel to move this worked for, so it is going to be a large burden on our department heads and on the school district side, but this work makes sense, and it can't be different than what we have been doing. it's just going to be better and so why we want to do our work better? so i think the priority piece you're right is going coming from the direction of the mayor and the superintendent but this is where we're asking you to put it on your list as well and this is driven by them but pushed by you. >> great. any other comments? questions as pertain to the 5 year plan? outstanding, thank you so much so for your comments and for your questions. we've taken note and those that we can answer we will and those we can't they're in the hopper and we will get to you. what is the next item? >> just some announcements an

build on the council has been really critical for us as well, and we've had conversations with kate howard how we're going to do this and resources coming from the school district and also from philanthropy quite frankly. they have been generous making sure we have the tools and personnel to move this worked for, so it is going to be a large burden on our department heads and on the school district side, but this work makes sense, and it can't be different than what we have been doing. it's just going to be better and so why we want to do our work better? so i think the priority piece you're right is going coming from the direction of the mayor and the superintendent but this is where we're asking you to put it on your list as well and this is driven by them but pushed by you. >> great. any other comments? questions as pertain to the 5 year plan? outstanding, thank you so much so for your comments and for your questions. we've taken note and those that we can answer we will and those we can't they're in the hopper and we will get to you. what is the next item? >> just some announcements an

the mayor's office and thanks to the mayor and mayor's budget director kate howard has said this is how we want you to submit your budget this year. so this would be our budget this year, regardless, if it does not pass, then going forward we would revert to the old system. >> okay. that is good. >> thank you. >> i had some other questions. >> please. >> so i know there was different ways to arrive at this, at this new budget. and one was more general fund-driven as opposed to a set-aside with property tax. could you tell me why the overriding reason why we hitched our wagon, so to speak, to this type of general fund-driven as opposed to the property tax? >> i'll grab that one, too. there were lots of conversations -- you know, the great thing about this measure, we were in a supportive role. i think we are managing our operations. i think we have articulated the need and we were asked to identify where would he make investments and how we would manage our resourcesin the policy for how it was crafted was crafted in conversations in large part between the mayor, supervisor farrell, and

also on january 20th, the chief financial officer and i attended a meeting with kate howard, the mayor's budget director to talk about the past forward related to budget request we'll be putting in. i think collectively we have many priorities. our main priority is funding the fleet plan which the commission has for adopting for the fleet plan. the issue is the funding. we listed our needs and in the fall a specific proposal was made to the mayor's budget office. we have not received any guarantees. it's apropos as i'm speaking the budget, our budget analyst that works for the mayor's budget office. in any case, we once again emphasized our need for adequate funding. i'm cautiously optimistic that there will be some funding put toward our fleet plan and we'll continue to follow up on that. i know all of you have a vested interest and are very supportive of our adequate supportive fleet plan. we did receive good news on the health bond for this year 2016. we are slated for $44 million to replace station 49 and 1415 evans street. we were grateful to lock down the $44 million. we received g

build on the council has been really critical for us as well, and we've had conversations with kate howard how we're going to do this and resources coming from the school district and also from philanthropy quite frankly. they have been generous making sure we have the tools and personnel to move this worked for, so it is going to be a large burden on our department heads and on the school district side, but this work makes sense, and it can't be different than what we have been doing. it's just going to be better and so why we want to do our work better? so i think the priority piece you're right is going coming from the direction of the mayor and the superintendent but this is where we're asking you to put it on your list as well and this is driven by them but pushed by you. >> great. any other comments? questions as pertain to the 5 year plan? outstanding, thank you so much so for your comments and for your questions. we've taken note and those that we can answer we will and those we can't they're in the hopper and we will get to you. what is the next item? >> just some announcements an

as stated earlier, with the generous support of coit and director kate howard, we have received funding in the engineering and record digitation project. both projects are under way and will be delivered in the budget year. the beauty with the assessment appeals initiative, we're working closely with the assessor chu and her team to streamline the process. this requires technology and changes to our business procedures. we have 175,000 already funded which will be usedder temporary program position to fully complete all aspects of the project. which will include phase five which we have not yet brought to this committee. but current funding will actually take care of both phase four and phase five. records positive tory to get all historic records digitized and rfp forming electronic data management system are being developed and will be issued this year. looking ahead, we have even more important technology projects on the horizon which will discuss further in june. currently, we must put into place a new contract for agenda management system towards end of the second year of the budge

also on january 20th, the chief financial officer and i attended a meeting with kate howard, the mayor's budget director to talk about the past forward related to budget request we'll be putting in. i think collectively we have many priorities. our main priority is funding the fleet plan which the commission has for adopting for the fleet plan. the issue is the funding. we listed our needs and in the fall a specific proposal was made to the mayor's budget office. we have not received any guarantees. it's apropos as i'm speaking the budget, our budget analyst that works for the mayor's budget office. in any case, we once again emphasized our need for adequate funding. i'm cautiously optimistic that there will be some funding put toward our fleet plan and we'll continue to follow up on that. i know all of you have a vested interest and are very supportive of our adequate supportive fleet plan. we did receive good news on the health bond for this year 2016. we are slated for $44 million to replace station 49 and 1415 evans street. we were grateful to lock down the $44 million. we received g

. >> good morning supervisor, michele [inaudible] controller office and joined by kate howard and we are presenting our most recent projegzs on the cities financial status that were issued in december and this is a joint report prepared by the controllers office, mayors office and budget analyst. the shared projection of revenue and expenditures for the next 4 years. the mayors office issued budget instructions and mrs. howard will speak to those. to provide context about why we provide this report and why we prepare the projections it isficial planning that came out of prop a. they [inaudible] and & do more long term financial planning. it says due to the budgeting do long term financial planning including a 5iar plan and 10 year capital plan and gives the controller authority to proposal financials to the board of supervisor for your consideration which we have done to strengthen reserves and codify debt policies and [inaudible] that is the context why we do this report. on the report itself you probably are familiar with it. it says what happen toozory budget if we do continue doi

, the movement of the budget is the negotiation we've established i have a lot of confidence in kate howard her over with the mayor's office to work us like i said i'd rather have a real number rather than something holding back or not looking at our needs again identifiable whether we can enhance that is a question mr. corso you said with that said, on page 12 based on the fact a number of factors the department is not proposing reductions to the general fund and noorpgsz with the request at this point that's a major stated we talked about that before that we the department not going to fulfill your requests for a one and a half cent cut. >> that's correct the feedback from the budget committee they're not cajole with a reduction especially the needs we have and i've seen the sentiment from the commission if i have the wrong impression please let me know but the based on the operational issues with the increased in call volume and services overall the overall sentiment the department was not confront putting forwards the reductions given the needs. >> my fellow commissioners i'm not trying

as stated earlier, with the generous support of coit and director kate howard, we have received funding in the engineering and record digitation project. both projects are under way and will be delivered in the budget year. the beauty with the assessment appeals initiative, we're working closely with the assessor chu and her team to streamline the process. this requires technology and changes to our business procedures. we have 175,000 already funded which will be usedder temporary program position to fully complete all aspects of the project. which will include phase five which we have not yet brought to this committee. but current funding will actually take care of both phase four and phase five. records positive tory to get all historic records digitized and rfp forming electronic data management system are being developed and will be issued this year. looking ahead, we have even more important technology projects on the horizon which will discuss further in june. currently, we must put into place a new contract for agenda management system towards end of the second year of the budge

build on the council has been really critical for us as well, and we've had conversations with kate howard how we're going to do this and resources coming from the school district and also from philanthropy quite frankly. they have been generous making sure we have the tools and personnel to move this worked for, so it is going to be a large burden on our department heads and on the school district side, but this work makes sense, and it can't be different than what we have been doing. it's just going to be better and so why we want to do our work better? so i think the priority piece you're right is going coming from the direction of the mayor and the superintendent but this is where we're asking you to put it on your list as well and this is driven by them but pushed by you. >> great. any other comments? questions as pertain to the 5 year plan? outstanding, thank you so much so for your comments and for your questions. we've taken note and those that we can answer we will and those we can't they're in the hopper and we will get to you. what is the next item? >> just some announcements an

also on january 20th, the chief financial officer and i attended a meeting with kate howard, the mayor's budget director to talk about the past forward related to budget request we'll be putting in. i think collectively we have many priorities. our main priority is funding the fleet plan which the commission has for adopting for the fleet plan. the issue is the funding. we listed our needs and in the fall a specific proposal was made to the mayor's budget office. we have not received any guarantees. it's apropos as i'm speaking the budget, our budget analyst that works for the mayor's budget office. in any case, we once again emphasized our need for adequate funding. i'm cautiously optimistic that there will be some funding put toward our fleet plan and we'll continue to follow up on that. i know all of you have a vested interest and are very supportive of our adequate supportive fleet plan. we did receive good news on the health bond for this year 2016. we are slated for $44 million to replace station 49 and 1415 evans street. we were grateful to lock down the $44 million. we received g

build on the council has been really critical for us as well, and we've had conversations with kate howardow we're going to do this and resources coming from the school district and also from philanthropy quite frankly. they have been generous making sure we have the tools and personnel to move this worked for, so it is going to be a large burden on our department heads and on the school district side, but this work makes sense, and it can't be different than what we have been doing. it's just going to be better and so why we want to do our work better? so i think the priority piece you're right is going coming from the direction of the mayor and the superintendent but this is where we're asking you to put it on your list as well and this is driven by them but pushed by you. >> great. any other comments? questions as pertain to the 5 year plan? outstanding, thank you so much so for your comments and for your questions. we've taken note and those that we can answer we will and those we can't they're in the hopper and we will get to you. what is the next item? >> just some announcements and

process of confirming a date for our budget committee to meet with the mayor's budget director kate howard. i anticipate that will be some time next month during the month of march. not any know staffing changes to report for this reporting period of time. we do anticipate fire fighter keith bracha to introduce himself at the march 9th report. in the process of announcing very soon some acting positions in the ems division which we will be able to report at the next meeting. related to academies, 119th academy is off to a good start. they begin on january 25th, and later we are joining by station no. 49 for a total of 50 members going through the academy with a graduation date in may. followed by the 120 class which is yet to be selected. backgrounds have been pretty much conducted and interviews will take place through the meet and greet in the march and april timeframe. we have members that were a good fit to our department and very instrumental during the staffing of super bowl week. there are 13 members this week that are transitioning to become full time members of our department as e

. >> good morning supervisor, michele [inaudible] controller office and joined by kate howard and we are presenting our most recent projegzs on the cities financial status that were issued in december and this is a joint report prepared by the controllers office, mayors office and budget analyst. the shared projection of revenue and expenditures for the next 4 years. the mayors office issued budget instructions and mrs. howard will speak to those. to provide context about why we provide this report and why we prepare the projections it isficial planning that came out of prop a. they [inaudible] and & do more long term financial planning. it says due to the budgeting do long term financial planning including a 5iar plan and 10 year capital plan and gives the controller authority to proposal financials to the board of supervisor for your consideration which we have done to strengthen reserves and codify debt policies and [inaudible] that is the context why we do this report. on the report itself you probably are familiar with it. it says what happen toozory budget if we do continue doi

as stated earlier, with the generous support of coit and director kate howard, we have received fundingrd digitation project. both projects are under way and will be delivered in the budget year. the beauty with the assessment appeals initiative, we're working closely with the assessor chu and her team to streamline the process. this requires technology and changes to our business procedures. we have 175,000 already funded which will be usedder temporary program position to fully complete all aspects of the project. which will include phase five which we have not yet brought to this committee. but current funding will actually take care of both phase four and phase five. records positive tory to get all historic records digitized and rfp forming electronic data management system are being developed and will be issued this year. looking ahead, we have even more important technology projects on the horizon which will discuss further in june. currently, we must put into place a new contract for agenda management system towards end of the second year of the budget and we're now enumerating

the mayor's office and thanks to the mayor and mayor's budget director kate howard has said this is howe want you to submit your budget this year. so this would be our budget this year, regardless, if it does not pass, then going forward we would revert to the old system. >> okay. that is good. >> thank you. >> i had some other questions. >> please. >> so i know there was different ways to arrive at this, at this new budget. and one was more general fund-driven as opposed to a set-aside with property tax. could you tell me why the overriding reason why we hitched our wagon, so to speak, to this type of general fund-driven as opposed to the property tax? >> i'll grab that one, too. there were lots of conversations -- you know, the great thing about this measure, we were in a supportive role. i think we are managing our operations. i think we have articulated the need and we were asked to identify where would he make investments and how we would manage our resourcesin the policy for how it was crafted was crafted in conversations in large part between the mayor, supervisor farrell, and th

kate. appreciate it. >> don bell is at phillies spring training in clearwater, florida. >> what does the future hold for ryan howardlater pete mackani >>> tomorrow the fightin' phils will have first full squatter work out. everyone has reported to clearwater except one player. >> sports director don bell is at spring training and he tells us who the lone hold out is. >> reporter: ukee and jessica, thank you. projected starting third businessman for the philadelphia phillies is maikel franco. only one problem. den show up here on monday when the full squad was due to report. instead, the team expects him to show up on tuesday morning. go through his physical and then be on the field for full practice. not a good look if you're 23 years old and trying to make the big league squad. meanwhile the guy who did show up is ryan howard. you know who he is. former mvp scheduled to make $25 million in this his final season of his five-year contra contract. over however, he's 36 years old. they're not sure what kind of impact he's going to have. in fact his manager talked about his future today. >> let's just say that ryan how

kate. appreciate it. >> don bell is at phillies spring training in clearwater, florida. >> what does the future hold for ryan howardp later >>> tomorrow the fightin' phils will have first full squatter work out. everyone has reported to clearwater except one player. >> sports director don bell is at spring training and he tells us who the lone hold out is. >> reporter: ukee and jessica, thank you. projected starting third businessman for the philadelphia phillies is maikel franco. only one problem. den show up here on monday when the full squad was due to report. instead, the team expects him to show up on tuesday morning. go through his physical and then be on the field for full practice. not a good look if you're 23 years old and trying to make the big league squad. meanwhile the guy who did show up is ryan howard. you know who he is. former mvp scheduled to make $25 million in this his final season of his five-year contra contract. over however, he's 36 years old. they're not sure what kind of impact he's going to have. in fact his manager talked about his future today. >> let's just say that ryan howard is prob

kate. appreciate it. >> don bell joins us now from phillies spring training with a look at what's next in sports. >> ryan howards it's unfair. exactly what is the big fella talking about? you'll hear from ♪ i've been a turkey farmer my whole life... and i raise turkey for shady brook farms®. we don't use growth-promoting antibiotics, that's just the way things should be done. that's important to me. my name is glenn, and i'm an independent turkey farmer. (female announcer) shady brook farms®. no growth-promoting antibiotics, just honest, simple turkey. >> ryan how war had a lot on his pipe today and didn't hold back with the media. >> sports director don bell was there as the big piece spoke his piece. don? >> reporter: thank you ukee and jess. as you know the full squad going through their first full workouts here in color water, florida. but all the action -- action of note really came off the feel with ryan howard seeing to the media for the first time this spring. the press conference was wild. it was zany and at times it was contentious. >> questions. >> hi guys first off how you guys doing. >> i know you

kate. appreciate it. >> don bell joins us now from phillies spring training with a look at what's next in sports. >> ryan howardnks it's unfair. exactly what is the big fella talking about? you'll hear from >> ryan how war had a lot on his pipe today and didn't hold back with the media. >> sports director don bell was there as the big piece spoke his piece. don? >> reporter: thank you ukee and jess. as you know the full squad going through their first full workouts here in color water, florida. but all the action -- action of note really came off the feel with ryan howard seeing to the media for the first time this spring. the press conference was wild. it was zany and at times it was contentious. >> questions. >> hi guys first off how you guys doing. >> i know you miss chase. i miss jamie all those guys and, um, but you know, you got to go with what's right here in front of last year was bad or whatever. this year i go out and hit .300 against left tease. then what do you say? do i think it's fair? me personally i probably not. but i mean it is what it is. kind of shock, surprise, just like -- like what do the

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>> kate, speaking about the crowd sizes in iowa, and what you think about if you're a liberal democrat is, howard dean in 2004. it turned out young people. got people from all over the country to go canvas for him in iowa. and then on caucus night in iowa, before the scream and all that, he got, what was it, three counties? so the question is, whether or not those big numbers turn into caucusgoers. and at that point, you know, you can't really take the campaign for its word. the campaign says, yes, we've turned that enthusiasm into operational political capital, but we won't know that until we start getting results tonight. >> and what happens when we pull into south carolina. that is a huge question mark. iowans and vermonters are very similar in their political makeup. >> that's right. before south carolina, though, of course, it is new hampshire. steve kornacki, i want to talk to you about new hampshire. the latest new hampshire democratic poll has bernie sanders up something like 20 points. he seems to have a very resilient, very big lead in new hampshire. if those numbers hold up and he wins