and that's one of the problems political correspondent kate brady is covering this story for us kate jon is infectious disease agency the robot that caught institute has just this morning warns that could be a 2nd wave before autumn how to start factor into the government plans. well it certainly plays a huge role in the government's plans right now and something that they will be keeping an eye on both at state and federal level as the restrictions are east across germany and as you say the robert cole institute confirmed as well as today that of reproduction rate in germany now has fall into north point $65.00 but at the same time the vice president of the situ said that this is not a signal that germany has the all clear and right now as angela merkel has said on several occasions until there is a vaccine created 19 is very much going to be present in german life and in this new normal but germans are now going to be getting new c. as a restrictions that eased on public life. yeah this new normal while many businesses are being given the green light for this new normal parents in part

jon? >> thanks, kate.ive deeper into the silicon valley layoffs and whether the situation is going to improve as the economy starts to reopen. joining me now is carl gordino, president and ceo of the silicon valley leadership group, and casey newton, silicon valley editor at "the verge." good afternoon, gentlemen. carl, i remember sitting with you 20 years ago in the boardroom of the "san jose mercury news," as we were looking at the dotcom implosion and issues related you have seen a lot and the organization you lead, which represents 3508 or so big companies in the valley, where does this rank and what kind of a recovery are the leaders there telling you they expect? >> thank you in my role as ceo for the past 23 years, we have seen very steep and deep economic downturns. the dotcom bust of 2000 through 2002 saw 119,000 job losses in the barrier, and then in 2008 through 2010, similar amount of job losses, took 82 months to get those jobs back. we think this one may be even steeper and deeper, because it