she spoke with scott shafer earlier today. >> kate kendall, welcome and happy valentine's day. >> to you as well, thank you. >> think back a decade, 2004 this week, february. pandemonium, euphoria, at city hall. but also concern about where it was leading. did you ever think we'd be where we are today, ten years later, with 17 states allowing same-sex marriage and all the rest? >> never. never. i knew that we were starting something big. and that it was going to cascade in some way. what i couldn't have imagined was the accelerant that it would be to people coming to an understanding about the reality of the lives of same-sex couples and lgbt people. it really was, with the benefit of hindsight now, ten years, a groundbreaking moment. >> what was it about that time that really triggered everything that followed? >> well, you know, i think of that time in 2004. there was still a huge division. if you were republican and conservative, you were opposed to the idea of same-sex couples getting married or gay rights generally. if you were liberal or progressive and a democrat, you were in

kendall jenner, the nipples made an appearance again last night. she was at the marc jacobs show, she was one of the models walking the runway. the opposite of kate upton. instead of boingy boing -- ping.ping, >> simon cowell is having his baby.