contributed to that are the world wildlife fund, and i am joined by one of their executive director, kate norgrovere some dire findings in this report but perhaps not a surprise to you? not at all, and we are seeing this, this gradual and distinct decline over many tens of years, of nature in the uk. we live in one of the most nature depleted countries in the world — we have lost 38 million birds from our skies in the last 3a years. and the reason we are all here, is because we can see the government is dithering and delaying on their net zero in nature targets and we are all really worried. you mentioned the government, the timing of this report is bad from that point of view, there was controversial decision made about new oil drilling, there was that decision to delay petrol and diesel car bans and also, most recently, the environmental laws that are going to be connected with new builds have been postponed. what impact is that having on business investment? it is having a really difficult impact on business, i talk to businesses every day of the week, as wwf, you know, some of the biggest name