and not i mean i know we're going to sound to people like we're just piling on but kate p.m.g. was also we've reported kicked out of south africa for problems there and of course we we referred to the problems in the u.k. with regard to karelian we've covered that story but i'll tell you one thing i never really said this publicly but you know i worked in a large law firm and i think. a lot of similarities between the large accounting firms and law firms and the bottom line is you know the people there that they want to get contracts they want to have a relationship with the other big i mean it's a big cabal i mean they're all together they don't want to upset each other because they want to do work with them and even if steve they don't get work this year maybe they'll get work next year and so you know it seems to me that things need to be changed but i know you're not all the way there but can i keep you at least considering it. yeah i mean separation you know is a big word now with immigration here in this country and maybe separation is the word for these accounting firms