there will be legal challenges to these so let's bring in our legal team, kate shaw and dan abrams. te, let me begin with you on that point. we're seeing them be counted. several states are almost certainly going to lead to either automatic recounts or challenges from whoever is behind and recounts there. we know it will happen in pennsylvania as well. walk everybody through the process and where the challenges are likely. >> sure thing, george. in every state you can -- there's either an automatic recount or recount a candidate can request when the margin is close enough. sometimes half a percentage point or a quarter or a point so i think you're right. we're almost certain to see at least a couple of states within that margin and if we do, it's all but certain one of the candidates is going to request a recount if state law doesn't automatically provide for it. we've been cautioning americans to be airport before the election and i think we really do need to sort of redouble those efforts at broadcasting the need for patients because it could be weeks if we're in recount territory

i want to bring in our legal lel panel, pierre thomas, dan abrams and kate shaw. pierre, let me begin with you. you were talking to homeland security and the fbi. what's their greatest concern about election day? >> george, with emotions running so high in a bitterly fought campaign against a back drop of racial tension and a pandemic law enforcement is feeling the stress. there's several concerns. there's a real worry about white supremacists, anti-government extremist and anarchists. there have been a number of suspected extremists placed under close surveillance of the fbi. just last week federal prosecutors charged two men with manufacturing illegal hard to trace guns suspected of being neo-nazis. they had a list of names to include prominent black lives matter leaders and there's always a concern about lone wolf extremists. there have been at least two men recently arrested who discussed harming biden. no specific threat identified, but it's a volatile environment. >> still a lot of focus on foreign interference especially from russia and iran. >> yes. let's

let's bring in our legal team, abc news chief legal analyst dan abrams and supreme court contributor kate shawor being here this morning. i know you're following this. the number of lawsuits that have been -- i won't say -- that they're thinking about. they're allegedly going to make these lawsuits become a reality. let me ask you first, kate, is there any validity to anything that they're talking about when it comes to the lawsuits? >> well, you're right, robin. some of these lawsuits have been filed but some have just been talked about and we're not sure if they'll materialize. you know, when the president came out very late on election night and said we'll take this to the supreme court. you know, you can, of course, challenge various aspects of the election possess but you do need a legal argument and in order for it to matter in terms of the outcome of the election it needs to be in a state that might tip the balance of the electoral colleges one way or another and the vote needs to be close enough where the argument you're making might in theory change the outcome of a number of votes su