all of this was thought about even before the 1942 broadcast of kate smith. kate did a daily 15 minute noontime talk program. only about 10 of those programs exist. that is why it is not known. she had done three to four years-worth of talking, not saying, to the radio audience before that program. paddy: i appreciate what you are saying, and thanks for that information. what i think -- what bears saying is that the thing that we now take for granted as if it were the most natural thing namely talk on radio, was something that had to be discovered, that people had to learn how to do it. it is a specific kind of performance. the most extraordinary thing is that talk literally is prehistoric, until sound recording comes along. writing is as old as recorded history. thousands of years old, but how people talk, what talk sounded like, how people related to each other through speech, we do not know until radio and television came along. i wonder the extent to which the radio and television has contributed to helping us all to learn to talk to each other in new kind

i have studied kate smith also. he was the anti-graham mcnamee. i have a recording of him talking about this. he said, when i was in the hospital for six months, i learned that i am listening to the radio alone in my room, and all of my listeners are generally in a room. i am not speaking to a vast audience, but one person. all of this was thought about, even before the 1942 broadcast of kate smith. kate did a daily 15 minute noontime talk program. only about 10 of those programs exist. that is why it is not known. she had done three to four years-worth of talking, not saying, to the radio audience before that program. paddy: i appreciate what you are saying, and thanks for that information. what i think -- what bears saying is that the thing that we now take for granted as if it were the most natural thing, namely talk on radio, was something that had to be discovered, that people had to learn how to do it. it is a specific kind of performance. the most extraordinary thing is that talk literally is prehistoric, until sound recording comes along.

with kate smith, she talks just what she thinks. smithyword that captures 's listeners was sincerity. this is in effect of not what she says nor whether it is scripted or not, but of how she says it. to her believe in the sincerity of what smith is saying because she sounds as if she believes in what she is saying in spite of the fact she is reading scripted words by others. a distinct and specific cause for their belief, and smith's genuine patriotism, voice asefer to her genuinely sincere. it is her speech. when she asked for anything, she gives it everything she has got. it is hard to explain. she says sincere. it is in her tone. no matter what she says, you sit there and listen. she talks as if she herself is going through all that. what she said, she really felt herself. you knew she wasn't just reading a script. this is the upshot of what the data disclosed that listeners believed in smith because they heard in her voice that she wast the words that she herself reading. they got on the phone and asked what she -- and did what

. >> as you know, i went to college at duke and met dean smith first of the three as a terrified duke junior. i try to interview him about katermstrong who was on his olympic team. i was 19 and scared to death by dean could not have been nicer. he had actually read something i had written in the student newspaper at duke because back then, they clipped every single paper in the country. i had written something sang bill foster who was the duke coach had modeled his program after dean. he said you were fair to us in that piece especially someone from duke and that became a running theme for 35 years. the acc for the washington post in the 1980's when dean was the icon, valvano was the rockstar and krzyweski was the little engine trying to get started in the early 80's. they were born nine days apart. book, a greatis player at duke in the 1960's was associate athletic director and yet seen krzyweski coach and brought his name to tom butters. who?nswer was literally, young coach atre army but he became enamored after interviewing him and decided to hire him even though he had been 9-17 at army. the headline the next day at duke