head of the donetsk oda, then ova, he starts buying all this property, george, stay in touch, kateryna ryzhenkoty executive director of transparency international ukraine, joins our broadcast, kateryna, good evening, i want you. i want to hear two aspects about the consequences: there are legal consequences, there should be some political consequences, let's distinguish them, what political consequences and in what time frame should we expect here? well, of course, the political consequences are less defined than the legal ones, which are clearly established by law, here it is obvious, this is his position, this is a person who now heads an important state body, and this position, he was appointed there. by the president of ukraine with the agreement of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, accordingly, the president can also remove him from this position, which, if in fact the investigation continues there, at least is already known such things that the journalists were able to find and connect with kirylenko, then at least some procedure should be initiated, where they will see whether the journalis