understand more about the results of this conference live expert of the center for new europe, kateryna zarembo. congratulations, kateryna. six and a half billion. how do you estimate this amount, because on the one hand it does not look too large-scale on the marshall plan, it does not drag, on the other hand, they say that this is only the first step cyber for a specific day or for a certain period at the moment, we see that this is far from the only aid that ukraine receives. and it is absolutely realistic to sum up the results. actually, the organizers of the conference say that this is only the beginning. i would rather emphasize the fact that the development of an analogue of the marshall plan is beginning while ukraine has not yet achieved complete victory, and for me this is such a powerful signal of the west and the entire civilized world that will join this package that ukraine will be and ukraine will be prosperous. well, even better than it actually was, the marshall plan built modern western europe and allowed it to rebuild very quickly after the second world war, so i interpreted