katha. >> i have many thoughts.must not forget to mention that marital rape is still very controversial. very hard to get a conviction. millions of reasons why a woman bring charges. >> and todd akin has questioned marital rape. >> yes, he did. >> and we should say, he voted for the bill in the state legislature in missouri, a bill that would make marital rape a crime. >> and philosophically said, come on. this is ridiculous. the whole focus on rape it seems in-to-me in terms of the abortion debate. i don't want to say it's a distraction, but it does do the thing of, okay, if you just -- you're some virgin and you've been beaten up and it's truly horrible, then we'll let you have one of our prized abortions. >> you won! >> but if you've got ten children and this 11th child, you know, is going to, you know, rip your uterus in five pieces, sorry, because there is no health exception in all of these laws. >> right. >> and ryan has said the health exception is so vague, you could drive a mack truck through it. >> let's