let me go to katharina. and john suggested that why don't you just go up to the hill and ask for, you know, privacy regulation across the board and for it to be opt-in. the world when you opt in. up on the hill, and would it be opt in or opt out. >> we have been, of course we support, based on privacy legislation, and i think we would have to look again at the data whether or not that is opted out. >> and if i can just add, it is worth noting these are not mutually exclusive options, i would argue that it is the appropriate to have high standards for internet service providers because of the special relationship they have with consumers, and it is a relationship you want to encourage them to build the relationship, to get on the network, and will willing to connect and consider the services they use online. but not be afraid to get online because of the possible practices isps might be engaging in. the default is going online, doing nothing, and there will be strong protections for your information that you

. >> katharina and laura dying to answer the question. >> i'm pretty confident that companies can come up with preet creative ways to explain the value proposition thers customers should opt in. to opt in they have to make the extra step. if opt out the company doesn't has to do a whole lot. the assumption is until the customer objects you can market. i'm pretty confident that companies come up with creative way. >> i'm sorry, if i can just add, i think it is also worth noting, again, this regulation that is title two privacy regulation, the regulations we're talking about apply to internet service providers or are being proposed to apply to internet service providers, we haven't seen the text yet and we're not sure where it is going to go. a lot of these are great questions that will be addressed in comments in the record. this is activities-based regulation. it is not entity-based regulations. what that means, if a company is both an internet service provider around the operator of an advertising network, then it can continue to operate under the ftc's under the ftc's generally opt-o

before believe john's question let me go to katharina.john suggested, why didn't you go up to the hill and ask for privacy regulation across the board and opt in. with the center for democracy technology support under the privacy legislation on the hill and would it be opt in or opt out? >> we've been on the record of course that we would support based on privacy legislation, and i think we would have to look again at this particular context of the day in the purpose of the data whether it's opt in or opt out. it would have to be differentiated. >> if i can just add, it's worth noting that these are not mutually exclusive options. it may be the fact, and i would argue that it is the fact, that it is appropriate to have high standards for internet service providers because of this special relationship that they have with consumers. is relationship where you want to encourage consumers to build this relationship, to get on the network, to be willing to connect and then to consider the services that they want to use online accordingly, but n