what , katharine birbalsingh.the day of the bomb threat? um , well , she happened on the day of the bomb threat? um , well, she is threat? then um, well, she is pushing back against people trying to impose a muslim prayer room in her school. i went to the school today. i spoke to her. that is one that's absolute not to be missed. it will define the future of education and culture in this country. gb news is the only place to be tonight for the latest on that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of weather on gb news i >> -- >> hello , it's aidan mcgivern >> hello, it's aidan mcgivern here from the met office with the gb news forecast storm. jocelyn sweeps through overnight increase . windy with heavy increase. windy with heavy showers for many of us, although the wettest weather carried through on tuesday is now clearing to showers and some longer spells of rain in the far northwest. it is in the far northwest. it is in the far northwest where the strongest of the will be, and for many the winds will b

i'll be bringing you a bombshell with bombshell interview with headteacher katharine birbalsingh on thisnd in the day tomorrow night. and in the day i feel honoured to be invited to the school where i'll be going and getting a look around first hand and we'll be doing a piece on that for you tomorrow night. so right here on this show. but kelvin joins me in the studio now . this kelvin joins me in the studio now. this high case could now. this high court case could cost taxpayer up to £1 cost the taxpayer up to £1 million. and actually, i think the costs to our country could be much greater if it's successful. your views. right. so it's a fantastic school. >> this is skint. >> so this is skint. >> so this is skint. >> brent is one of the poorest areas of the country. >> there are 700 pupils there, 350 of them are muslims . 350 of them are muslims. >> so how does the school do. fantastic over 80% of the children who go into the sixth form, pupils go on to a russell group, you know, imperial, you know, fantastic universities . know, fantastic universities. those those who just take the eng

um, katharine birbalsingh the, uh, birbalsingh is the, uh, britain's strictest headmistress .ll her. has got a problem on her hands because one pupil has taken the school to the high court after she suggested should not suggested that pupils should not be pray in the be allowed to pray in the playground. a of a playground. it's a bit of a development because the development on it because the schoolgirl in the prayer row was apparently suspended . apparently suspended. >> to the mail on >> and according to the mail on sunday, the schoolgirl complainant suspended for complainant was suspended for making some sort of a threat which could have involved, uh, you know, a serious assault on another pupil. >> so she might have a vested interest in taking the school to court? >> yes, she might indeed. and you know, the whole point of katharine birbalsingh and the michaela academy it rests on michaela academy is it rests on the authority of the headteacher to tight ship , to run an to run a tight ship, to run an integrated, cohesive school community in an area , you know, community in a

i speak to britain's strictest headteacher, katharine birbalsingh .ned on the day of the bomb threat that, um , well, the bomb threat that, um, well, she opens up about being taken to court for banning muslim prayer rooms. >> but i do think that if a school's ethos is such and building is such, that they cannot have a prayer room, then they should be allowed to not have room. it's have a prayer room. it's a landmark legal case that will have enormous ramifications on the britain. of us the future of britain. all of us need to make sacrifice for the betterment of the whole , so that betterment of the whole, so that we can all get on is multi culturalism failing. >> find out on a special patrick christys tonight 9 to 11 pm. be i >> welcome back . we've been >> welcome back. we've been discussing the glory of brexit and you've been getting in touch. and elizabeth makes a very good point. we should always be grateful lord always be grateful to lord cameron the cameron for giving us the referendum . i can't see a referendum. i can't see a continental pm do

but for now, uh, katharine birbalsingh , you uh, katharine birbalsingh, you might who she is.s known britain's strictest known as britain's strictest head . she is basically head teacher. she is basically being taken to court because in her school , she's essentially her school, she's essentially got a ban on prayer. what's happened now is a muslim pupil has basically said this is not acceptable. and it's discriminating against the islamic faith because there is a got a very demonstrable way of praying. peter, let me just ask you a simple question. should we just kind of ban all religious varne from schools on the contrary, i think all schools, if i if i could have anything to do with the legislation, then it's all schools should be free to have prayer. >> if they want. i'm in favour of them being christian schools and therefore i have to be in favour of the being muslim schools. if people want there to be, and even atheist schools if people want them to be. i don't think schools should be told they can't. they can't express or or or or suggest any religious belief at all. and

actually katharine birbalsingh.'ve had batley grammar school incidents. we've had the incidents berkeley primary incidents at berkeley primary school now school, haven't we? and now we've got incident here where we've got an incident here where one pupil with backing of one pupil with the backing of legal is able to take a legal aid, is able to take a headteacher all the way through to high with load of to the high court with a load of external influence from elements, hardline elements of the wider british radical muslim community, all for the sake of having a muslim prayer room in a school . all that is simply not school. all that is simply not kitted out for it. and it is a lesson really, in how the masses would have to change their ethos and way of life in order to accommodate people who , frankly, accommodate people who, frankly, don't really need to be accommodated . parents have accommodated. parents have already signed up to exactly what is going on at the school, so they know all about it, so they know ever

addison katharine birbalsingh is undoubtedly one of this country's most successful head teachers.unity free school in brent, north london, her pupils generally achieved better results than those in most private schools. despite a quarter of them being on free school meals. but she's had to defend herself in the high court over a strict policy of banning all prayer rituals in her school . she says it's in response to some particularly militant muslim pupils pressuring others to engage in lunchtime prayers to engage in lunchtime prayers to discuss the case's implications. i'm joined by rakib ehsan, who is a senior research associate at the institute for the impact of faith in life and author of beyond grievance what the left gets wrong about ethnic minorities, and author and media commentator paul connew . welcome commentator paul connew. welcome to you both . um, what do you to you both. um, what do you make of this particular case? what do you think is at stake? well michael, i think it's a crying shame that it's actually come to this, but perhaps the ruling by the courts will giv

>> incensed by this >> i'm really incensed by this katharine birbalsingh in katharine birbalsingh beingute model, and i would absolute role model, and i would want rishi do you want to ask rishi sunak, do you want to ask rishi sunak, do you want display your for want to display your support for katharine she's katharine birbalsingh? she's just actually just issued a statement actually on that she has on twitter to say that she has increased the number of muslim pupils in her school by 50. she offers education offers a fantastic education on her muslim, her own. grandmother was muslim, will he show his public support to that does not have to to her that she does not have to provide prayer provide a separate prayer space for that's for these children? that's a great question. >> and andrew, what's yours on the post office? >> post office, um, >> well, on the post office, um, we want when , when, we i want to know when, when, when government. we've when the government. we've got this inquiry ongoing. when the government. we've got this but inquiry ongoing. when the government. we've got th

and she's very katharine birbalsingh and she's venthank katharine birbalsingh and she's verthank you for the weather. >> looks like things are heating up. >> box spoilers, sponsors of weather on gb news . weather on gb news. >> good afternoon . welcome to >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest gb news. weather update with me annie from the met office. it'll be staying dry for many overnight but it's going be another very cold going to be another very cold night with a further risk of ice and snow northern areas and snow across northern areas of in particular. that of scotland in particular. that snow being brought in by this cold wind is arctic cold northerly wind is arctic air that we've had with us all week. there will be some subtle changes and changes through the evening and overnight , though that mean that overnight, though that mean that the pushes to a the wind direction pushes to a north westerly. so much of the snow come in snow will start to come in across north western scotland, as any eastern areas as opposed to any eastern areas of it should be a of england. so it sh

this evening, alex armstrong is going to ask if michaela community high school headteacher katharine birbalsinghway, right to sing, by the way, was right to ban rituals their ban prayer rituals on their school you're with the school premises. you're with the saturday five live on gb news as welcome back to the saturday five. it's been a spicy show so your emails have been flying in. johnny's written in, johnny says why aren't community leaders doing something within these communities ? he's talking about communities? he's talking about the black community to stop perpetuating the story and association of black being the perpetrator of crime and violence. it's a bad bunch, not the majority. and this is making life difficult for law abiding members of said community. and basically all your emails on the royals are essentially saying, keep your nose out of business. that ain't yours. and i think that's fair enough. now now alex is going to finish things off this evening. alex, tell us what's been on your mind . what's been on your mind. >> well, now a school in . london >> well, now a school in. lo

i'll tell you that as by katharine as a second run by katharine birbalsingh, someone birbalsingh, assomeone gets caned, i'm all right. >> strachan is one >> michaela strachan is one person. can't run every school. >> michaela. yeah, she was good, though. i just say that? but >> michaela. yeah, she was good, thouis. i just say that? but >> michaela. yeah, she was good, thouis. point.: say that? but >> michaela. yeah, she was good, thouis. point. katharine. but that is the point. katharine. katharine school katharine birbalsingh school does discipline does have the kind of discipline that talking about. the that nick is talking about. the kids love it. they do really well. the results are absolutely residual payments from them. like about them like you're talking about them every because every night on here now. because do you get kickback because do you get a kickback because they're whenever they're in the news whenever there's something they're in the news whenever therthis, something they're in the news whenever therthis, obviously something they're in the news whenever therthis, o

. >> katharine birbalsingh. remember the name of it. >> katharine birbalsingh .ow? >> yes, but example of how? >> like stripping out the wokeness. rid of flags. wokeness. get rid of the flags. get all that nonsense and get rid of all that nonsense and teach . well, one minute they've teach. well, one minute they've got flag and it's the got one flag and it's the british one. exactly >> week, just this week. >> this week, just this week. she's taken court. she's been taken to court. >> bunch of woke on a >> yes, by a bunch of woke on a bunch of woke nonsense. so let's just you strip away just be clear. you strip away all that nonsense. well all of that nonsense. well i think great. and think think that's great. and i think that's more in that's what we need more in schools. because don't schools. because if you don't teach discipline and authority at it just gets at a young age, it just gets replicated even further the replicated even further into the adults do adults and then gangs. what do you is, the you think the authority is, the gang? come gang? amy, you wan

at the woman, known as britain's strictest . known as britain's strictest. >> headteacher, katharine birbalsinghshe and her staff have received after deciding to ban a prayer room at her school. the michaela academy's is currently facing a court challenge which alleges the no prayer policy introduced is discriminatory. the no prayer policy introduced is discriminatory . she sat down is discriminatory. she sat down with patrick christys last night. >> my staff had an attempted break in at her flat, one of my staff had a brick through her window. um, we had bottles thrown into the yard. um and all because the prayer situation . because the prayer situation. it's not right that , um, a it's not right that, um, a headteacher or teachers should be put under that kind of stress because they're just trying to do their jobs. >> in the last hour, the regulator ofcom has said. cutting royal mail's six day a week letter deliveries to five days or even three are among opfions days or even three are among options that could be considered, as it warned, the universal postal service risks becoming unsustainable

katharine birbalsingh incredible woman. i adore her. she is the head of.m, cath carroll , let me come to britain's strictest head. um, cath carroll, let me come to you on this because it's a fascinating case. she's in the supreme court. what do you make of it? >> you know what i think this woman is incredible. and, i mean, she is the best head in the and she the country, i think. and she runs undoubtedly of the best runs undoubtedly one of the best schools country. what schools in the country. and what she she she banned she has done, she she banned muslim in the the muslim prayer in the in the playground . um, and she's been playground. um, and she's been taken to court. one of the students is taking her to court and saying that she doesn't feel like this country like she belongs in this country anymore, i think is tosh. anymore, which i think is tosh. but anyway. but know what? but anyway. but you know what? her catherine's her argument catherine's argument it's not argument is that it's not discriminated . she's saying that discriminated. she's saying t

if i had my way, i would clone katharine birbalsingh. she makes my heart sing .you actually bring about kids that are fit the future. and not are fit for the future. and not unruly brats , frankly, that are unruly brats, frankly, that are causing absolute terror in classrooms . classrooms. >> i'm glad you mentioned katharine as well, because her school was actually ranked first out 6959 secondary schools out of 6959 secondary schools and is outperforming many private schools. >> and it's no easy feat. this is in a rough part of london, right ? it's not a rich part of right? it's not a rich part of the world that you might think it is because it's in london, the capital city. this is an asset rich. this is actually a school that is out performing outstripping as you say, many private schools because benjamin , she has strict old fashioned ideas about discipline . ideas about discipline. >> the teachers don't actually just teach the children. they actually monitor their behaviour. there's no talking in the corridor. there's no running , etc, etc. old school values

and i think, you know, this katharine this school, katharine birbalsingh, the head headmistress , sheivers headmistress, she delivers results . it's and surely that's results. it's and surely that's what matters no matter what, you know, religion , whatever sky god know, religion, whatever sky god you worship . you worship. >> uh, to the mirror next. leo. what are they going with? >> uh, so they have the boss of japanese tech giant fujitsu says there's a moral obligation clip it up. >> just authentic. yeah as i say, croissant . kwasi. yeah. say, croissant. kwasi. yeah. fujitsu >> uh, but he says there's a moral obligation to pay post office scandal compensation , office scandal compensation, which is going to be paid in the form of, uh, he's going to stab himself in the stomach with a big uh no, he's it's authentic. >> it's moving away from authentic back towards racism, i'm sure. >> think this is likely >> i think this is more likely he'll finger. he'll cut off his little finger. yeah, yeah, because is yeah, yeah, yeah, because it is a does. a bit of a it does. >> it's ring of >> it'

the michaela community school in brent, north west london, which is run by katharine birbalsingh , is a muslim pupil over its prayer policy . the school has faced an policy. the school has faced an onune policy. the school has faced an online campaign over its approach to religion, as well as threats of violence, abuse and false allegations of islamophobia. suzanne i'll start with you on this. um i mean, this is quite remarkable turn of events. so it appears that they've banned the muslim prayer in this school. >> it's quite interesting. i mean, obviously, this just mean, obviously, this is just landed. to make landed. so i'm trying to make head it seems head or tail of it, and it seems to me that what's happening is that to been that there seems to have been almost been almost the prayer has been politicised , i think, by some politicised, i think, by some students that seems to be the, the the ban was the reason why the ban was imposed. and we've certainly seen this among among adults. i think and clearly if you're praying at certain times in the day and disrupting the school day, t

i have a very special interview with katharine birbalsingh to bring you tonight. vote labour.the opportunity to question, to ask difficult questions. >> sometimes of our nation's history . history. >> yeah, i teach white privilege to kids. why not? el tel keir starmer why the culture wars do matter next, and i expose the silly old duffers who are breaking britain's borders. >> beware . in africa, >> beware. in africa, particularly safe. i can't think of any country in africa that i would wish to go and live in. aboush would wish to go and live in. abolish the lords. >> and just when you think the arts couldn't get any worse, i'm making a christmas carol. >> but my scrooge is a is an indian tory who hates refugees . indian tory who hates refugees. >> oh, riveting stuff . and on my >> oh, riveting stuff. and on my panel tonight are the news thans panel tonight are the news titans suzanne evans , alex titans suzanne evans, alex armstrong and rebecca reid. oh, and find out how this massive seal has been causing absolute carnage. yeah, there he is, neil the seal. he's called, and i

soldiers war, soldiers marching to war, katharine birbalsingh. birb.she's h. remarkable soldiers marching to war, katishe e birb.she's h. remarkable soldiers marching to war, katishee birlherself, remarkable soldiers marching to war, katishee birlherself, shenarkable soldiers marching to war, katishee birlherself, she says,ble and she calls herself, she says, i a small conservative. i am a small c conservative. she's she's done she's a pain. she's done a brilliant with media brilliant interview with a media outlet unherd, i outlet called unherd, and i would you to sit down and would urge you to sit down and listen to with a guy called listen to it with a guy called freddie she talks freddie sayers, and she talks about that across the about the fact that across the school have many school they have so many different , and it is different faiths, and it is therefore i have to bring people together. and she said, if you don't that proactively, she don't do that proactively, she said school, the said, in my school, the canbbean said, in my school, th

it's katharine birbalsingh. um, she is amazing. she's been in court today.ause if they did it, then all the other various religions would want it. and she just said no . and they and she just said no. and they have taken her to court. this individual muslim pupil hasn't been course, right and been named, of course, right and fair enough. a child, fair enough. they're a child, but taken to her court. but they've taken to her court. this woman has just shown just headteacher . headteacher. >> she's dubbed, isn't she? >> she's dubbed, isn't she? >> strictest? headteacher and she has turned that school around. toughest she has turned that school aroun of toughest she has turned that school arounof london toughest she has turned that school arounof london and toughest she has turned that school arounof london and she'sghest she has turned that school arounof london and she's got;t parts of london and she's got a 50% muslim pupils and she is amazing thing. and to try and bnng amazing thing. and to try and bring her down this, bring her down like this, i think of o

the school's founder, katharine birbalsingh , said she katharine birbalsingh, said she had to introduce ian jason coppell, kc representing the school trust, told the court on wednesday the prayer issue had triggered quotes an unprecedented outbreak of poor behaviour among pupils . so now behaviour among pupils. so now should we take a leaf out of france's book and ban religion from our schools altogether here? but join me now to discuss . this is ethnographer and academic lisa mackenzie and pastor of the freedom ark church , nims obunge. thank you both for joining us. lisa could i forjoining us. lisa could i start with with you? this is a conversation that's gripped the nation. quite simply , we're in nation. quite simply, we're in a situation here where the pupils have overridden the school policy and decided upon themselves to start praying . the themselves to start praying. the head has clamped down and she's found herself in court over that. what's your take? well, i'm, um, i mean, it's not that i agree with the headteacher on this. >> you know, i've thought for a long, long time. >

so this is katharine birbalsingh. uh who is known as the uk's strictest headteacher.n , aren't you? you're a fan, aren't you? >> i've been to the school. this is michaela community school. yeah. >> so she's created this fantastic school with discipline and all the kids do really well. but it's actually a state school, so her point is, look, it can be done. um, and so anyway, court anyway, she's been in court today. today, today. i think it's today, uh, because because she's, she's stopped children at school having muslim prayers . they've having muslim prayers. they've never had a prayer room. yeah. she wants to keep out of she wants to keep faith out of the school. sort one the school. that's sort of one of policies. don't of her policies. yes. i don't mean she's telling people not to be to bring be religious, but not to bring their faith to school. in a statement shared on wednesday morning, birbalsingh morning, miss birbalsingh said the body the school's governing body decided prayer rituals decided to stop prayer rituals when some pupils started them against a bac

katharine birbalsingh son, on sunday.entioning charles or kate when presented with an aviation trophy and tv, christine gets tough paddy mcguinness to face bitter. excuse me paddy mcguinness to face pitbull divorce lawyer which could cost him many millions of pounds. oh dean him many millions of pounds. oh dear, that's a bad old headline to wake up to, isn't it? for paddy mcguinness? can i just say the legacy of vaccination scares? a third of under 16 at risk of measles. now it's very important that people receive their immunisations. my kids were the mmr and all the were given the mmr and all the rest of it. it's a real worry when they don't get vaccinated. but does it surprise anyone with those illiberal vaccine mandates dunng those illiberal vaccine mandates during the pandemic, when people were choice to were not given the choice to have not, given the have the jab or not, given the fact that it didn't stop you getting covid, didn't stop transmission there no moral transmission, there was no moral case those mandates.

what's this in the times um, katharine times from, um, katharine birbalsingh is birbalsingh i think this. >> birbalsingh >> so, katharine birbalsingh was the set up the headmistress who set up a free wembley. quite free school in wembley. quite a disadvantaged in london, disadvantaged area in london, and not non—selective if and it's not non—selective if it's a normal school in the area , it's very no nonsense. she's very, no nonsense . but the very, no nonsense. but the result of that has been she has gcse and a level results which leave all other schools in the area shade . she's getting area in the shade. she's getting fantastic response by being very old school traditional. i was telling norman you get a detention if you don't come to school the right in school with the right pens in your pencil it's that your pencil case, it's that strict. she has introduced a rule school which says rule in the school which says there no prayers. there will be no prayers. students any religion are not students of any religion are not allowed to go and pray a muslim student is now suing the school be

. >> an as britain's strictest headteacher, katharine birbalsingh , sing battles in birbalsingh, singchool. is it time to keep religion out of the classroom ? of the classroom? >> absolutely not. i mean, i cannot understand at the moment . cannot understand at the moment. i mean, christianity has been virtually squeezed out. you know, there is no longer an act of worship at an awful lot of school assemblies unless they're religious schools . uh, children religious schools. uh, children aren't taught scripture anymore . aren't taught scripture anymore. then they're expected to understand things like shakespeare and milton without a clue about the biblical references. they're expected to be taught. appreciation of art without a clue what the renaissance portraits are actually showing because they don't stories behind don't know the stories behind it. they're supposed to study medieval without knowing medieval history without knowing anything the church. now anything about the church. now now, you the most now, even if you are the most profound atheist, are country is christian by herita

after my eye opening interview with britain's strictest headteacher, katharine birbalsingh, people birbalsingh8% of people said they to they supported her decision to ban at the michaela ban all prayer at the michaela school, while 28% oppose it. so labour lead by 25 points. reform came up to 14% in some measures. nigel the most popular person to replace sunak and it's right, apparently to ban prayer rooms and just 17% of people would willingly fight for britain here to shed more light on this. now is the man behind the numbers. it pollster extraordinaire , it is pollster extraordinaire, it's matt goodwin. matt, thank you what's the most you very much. what's the most important for important bit of this data for you, think then. important bit of this data for youwell, think then. important bit of this data for youwell, there'sk then. important bit of this data for youwell, there's lotsen. important bit of this data for youwell, there's lots of things >> well, there's lots of things going on, patrick. we've got a poll that suggests labour are still for an enormous still on course for an enormou

we go now to the michaela academy , go now to the michaela academy, run by katharine birbalsingh, a renownedhe high court. why well, because they banned prayer rituals for every single religious and every single religion, saying that if multiculturalism was going to work, then everyone needed to make sacrifices for the sake of the whole community. shock horror. one muslim pupil in reality , i suspect it's almost reality, i suspect it's almost definitely the parents. but anyway, decided to bring this to the high court, saying that it actually only really affects muslim pupils because of the nature of their prayer i.e. that they don't sit silently in a corner and pray amongst themselves like, say, a christian might. that's their argument , okay? christian might. that's their argument, okay? but it isn't just this court case, though, is it? because police had to be called after claims that bomber had been placed at the school , had been placed at the school, glass bottles were over glass bottles were thrown over the school railings, a brick was put through a teacher's window and staff were quot

they hate katharine birbalsingh because you birbalsingh because she's a, you know, quite proud conservative shibboleths. it shows that actually, uh , racial actually, you know, uh, racial identity politics is bad . we identity politics is bad. we shouldn't treat working class people or black people or muslim people or black people or muslim people with the bigotry of low expectations. if you have high standards for everyone, you standards for everyone, um, you know , make people work hard, know, make people work hard, then will do well. yeah. then they will do well. yeah. >> is the bottom >> well, which is the bottom line , i think. um, interesting. line, i think. um, interesting. one the express this morning, one of the express this morning, cindy, because i wondered what they were to do with with cindy, because i wondered what they stuff to do with with cindy, because i wondered what they stuff that to do with with cindy, because i wondered what they stuff that they've,with with cindy, because i wondered what they stuff that they've, they'veh hs2 stuff that they've, they've knocked houses

what katharine birbalsingh does speak in the national anthem, but we're too scared about those in the'scared about those in the national anthem, but we're t<|t's like! about those in the national anthem, but we're t<|t's like it's out those in the national anthem, but we're t<|t's like it's people ;e things. it's like it's people are cringed at the idea of being patriotic . yeah. patriotic. yeah. >> no, indeed. no. look, i am very sorry because not very sorry because we were not expecting breaking expecting that breaking news. i'm understand. we i'm sure you can understand. we were on and talk a were going to go on and talk a bit roger but we bit about roger waters, but we are unfortunately out of are now unfortunately out of time for but winston is time for that. but winston is just me to you just an excuse for me to get you back you very, back on. so thank you very, very much quick much for that. just a quick reminder for you again, if you are may are just joining us, you may have this on twitter. have just seen this on twitter. the and the breaking the latest news and the breaking

should praye course been a major storys is, of course been a major story this week because of katharine birbalsinghool. the michaela community school, which i have visited. a fantastic visited. it's a fantastic school. facing high school. they're facing a high court challenge from a muslim pupil like pupil because she doesn't like the prayer the fact that there is no prayer allowed community allowed at michaela community school. ban is there school. i mean, the ban is there because it is a secular school and various religious groups make sacrifices. so make various sacrifices. so they've parents they've had christian parents complaining can't, complaining that they can't, that revision that they're doing revision sessions have sessions on a sunday. they have jehovah's parents jehovah's witness parents complaining that they're studying that's complaining that they're stm allowed, that's complaining that they're stmallowed, because that's complaining that they're stmallowed, because got at's not allowed, because it's got witches they're upset witches in it. so they're upset about that. it's a great p

deterrence and proper respect for law and order and just just one last word on that note is katharine birbalsinghfriend of yours. the britain's strictest head. she's been in the press all week. are you glad? i am glad that the way she runs that school now. school is front and centre now. >> mean, i've been >> absolutely. i mean, i've been to that school. it's remarkable. she the finest results. she achieves the finest results. yeah in a deprived yeah from a school in a deprived area. it's a converted office building without a playground. and i don't think many of her children are picking up knives when they go home. >> prime minister richard tice, are to make all are you going to make all schools strict? schools like britain strict? his head not going to answer that. >> we've run out of time anyway. >> we've run out of time anyway. >> richard see you >> sam. richard great to see you both. to be talking both. we're going to be talking about this awful case. just after this is, of after the break. this is, of course, killer. valdo course, the triple killer. valdo kalakani students. kalakani killed

on this this morning, britain's morning, this britain's strictest katharine strictest head, katharine birbalsinghmuslim the high court because a muslim pupil or some of the pupil wants or some of the muslim pupils there to be muslim pupils want there to be a prayer space given to them to use specially. and she said no, this has ended up in court. now, the implications of this, of course, is that every public building might have provide building might have to provide a prayer room muslim prayer. prayer room for muslim prayer. so we're talking about that also on the same day that prince william might to robert william might come to robert harmondsworth excellent book, which serialised the which was serialised in the mail, he's not he doesn't go to church . church. >> w- e to christmas day church. >> to christmas day and >> he goes to christmas day and easter grandmother, easter. unlike his grandmother, he at the moment is minded not to be the governor of the church of england. that would be the first time since henry the eighth of eighth created the church of england 1531. extraordinary >> i can't