you go back and look at this from the perspective of 40 years ago, the risk was bradley's and katharine graham's. they were the ones who were in peril. if it didn't check out, carl could have gone to cover rock music, something he wanted to do. i could have gone to the dark side and gone to law school. but they were the ones who had on the line. >> "the washington post" had gone public credit that point. the nixon administration decided on the strategy of going after the tv licenses of the washington post to get the basic economic health of the company. this was a huge undertaking of courage on the part of the "washington post." >> the stock had just gone public and it was in the toilet. >> could i ask you to do something for me? you were 29 years old when this happened, he stayed in the news business and have got lots more experience. you are aware of the existing political climate and news climate. you have had a long, distinguished career since that moment. it's a beautiful day out there and markets has sent the entire staff home. the phone call has just come in that says there's a break in a