katherine, how should the universities move forward? >> first of all, the universities need to take back their power from athletic deposits. deposits -- departments. the athletic departments wield the power. and the board of regency does not. >> is that part of the problem here, that we're in fact, we're asking the university administrators to play a role that they're not qualified to play. a university president is not qualified to take the place of the police and prosecutors in investigating something as serious as an assault allegation. >> you're right. but under federal law, under title nine, schools must investigate, and so therefore, it has been put back into the academic side. you have the coaches, and let's take joe paterno. >> we have 3 seconds left. the first thing that needs to happen, of course, the ncaa needs it get involved. and they're not going to get involved. they're concerned with making money. even at the expense of the athlete. i want each of them to know what is sexual assault, how they should handle it, how they should be in the locker room, and really, bring it to them as, if this was your sister, if this was your girlfriend, would you to rate it? and i know what the answer is.